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Re: Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work

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  Re: Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem:  https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work Peter Smith <peter.smith3102@gmail.com> - 2017-09-15 09:50 +0200
    Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem:  https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-09-15 10:10 +0200
      Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem:  https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-15 14:40 +0200
    Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem:  https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-09-15 16:30 +0200
      Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem:  https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work James Montgomery <james@envcode.io> - 2017-09-15 16:50 +0200

#186832 — Re: Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work

> Hi,
>
> I have tried to change the behavior of the CapsLock key to make it an
> additional Escape key. In order to do this I read the advice on
> https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard
>
> Specifically I did:
> I changed the file /etc/default/keyboard to:
>
> XKBLAYOUT="us,at"
> XKBVARIANT=","
> BACKSPACE="guess"
> XKBMODEL="pc105"
> XKBOPTIONS="caps:escape"
>
> Then I tried to execute the commands
>
> # service keyboard-setup restart
>
> and rebooting the the whole system. Nothing worked. After rebooting
> the CapsLock key behaved in exactly the same manner as before
> rebooting. It is still a CapsLock key.
>
> Maybe this is helpful:
> I use Debian Testing with Gnome.
>
> Does anyone have any tips on why this does not work? Or how to inform
> the Wiki team that this page contains wrong information?
>
> Best regards,
> Peter
>
> P.S.: I actually was able to change the keyboard layout later on by
> the Gnome Tweak tool, but nevertheless I do not unterstand why the
> official information does not work and it should be rectified.
>

>In case of Gnome, use gnome tweak tool, typing, caps lock key behaviour.
>Set it there and that's it.


--> Yes, I have already done that. Nevertheless the documentation on
that Wiki page is wrong. I'd like to report a bug or something like
this but the Wiki page does not provide any clues on how to do that.
I don't want anybody else to waste his/her time by reading and
following that wrong documentation. Do you know how to file a bug for
that Wiki page?

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#186833

On 15-09-17, Peter Smith wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have tried to change the behavior of the CapsLock key to make it an
> > additional Escape key. In order to do this I read the advice on
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard
> >
> > Specifically I did:
> > I changed the file /etc/default/keyboard to:
> >
> > XKBLAYOUT="us,at"
> > XKBVARIANT=","
> > BACKSPACE="guess"
> > XKBMODEL="pc105"
> > XKBOPTIONS="caps:escape"
> >
> > Then I tried to execute the commands
> >
> > # service keyboard-setup restart
> >
> > and rebooting the the whole system. Nothing worked. After rebooting
> > the CapsLock key behaved in exactly the same manner as before
> > rebooting. It is still a CapsLock key.
> >
> > Maybe this is helpful:
> > I use Debian Testing with Gnome.
> >
> > Does anyone have any tips on why this does not work? Or how to inform
> > the Wiki team that this page contains wrong information?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Peter
> >
> > P.S.: I actually was able to change the keyboard layout later on by
> > the Gnome Tweak tool, but nevertheless I do not unterstand why the
> > official information does not work and it should be rectified.
> >
> 
> >In case of Gnome, use gnome tweak tool, typing, caps lock key behaviour.
> >Set it there and that's it.
> 
> 
> --> Yes, I have already done that. Nevertheless the documentation on
> that Wiki page is wrong. I'd like to report a bug or something like
> this but the Wiki page does not provide any clues on how to do that.
> I don't want anybody else to waste his/her time by reading and
> following that wrong documentation. Do you know how to file a bug for
> that Wiki page?

Ahh, sorry, did not get that P.S. part, thought that it is part of
signature, or something like that. As for wiki question, perhaps you can
find answer on this page: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/Contact

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#186844

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:08:26AM +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 15-09-17, Peter Smith wrote:
> > --> Yes, I have already done that. Nevertheless the documentation on
> > that Wiki page is wrong. I'd like to report a bug or something like
> > this but the Wiki page does not provide any clues on how to do that.
> > I don't want anybody else to waste his/her time by reading and
> > following that wrong documentation. Do you know how to file a bug for
> > that Wiki page?

It's a wiki.  You edit the page yourself, so that it's no longer
incorrect.

> Ahh, sorry, did not get that P.S. part, thought that it is part of
> signature, or something like that. As for wiki question, perhaps you can
> find answer on this page: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/Contact

You can also file a bug against the pseudo-package "wiki.debian.org".

But the real underlying problem here is


     GNOME BREAKS EVERYTHING


It's really friggin' hard to work around this in documentation that has
been written over a span of 20 years, and has always worked before.

UNTIL GNOME.

Want to set or tweak your locale?  You edit this or that file and you put
this or that variable in it, log out and back in, and it works everywhere
EXCEPT GNOME.

Want to change the PATH variable?  You edit this or that file and log
out and back in, and it works everywhere EXCEPT GNOME.

Want to change keyboard mapping?  You run an xmodmap command to make it
take effect immediately, and then you also put it in this or that file so
that it happens on future logins, and this works everywhere EXCEPT GNOME.

And so on, and so on.

And they made this thing the god damned DEFAULT?!

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#186853

Peter Smith wrote:
>
>--> Yes, I have already done that. Nevertheless the documentation on
>that Wiki page is wrong. I'd like to report a bug or something like
>this but the Wiki page does not provide any clues on how to do that.
>I don't want anybody else to waste his/her time by reading and
>following that wrong documentation. Do you know how to file a bug for
>that Wiki page?

The wiki is meant to be updated by users too - register for an account
and fix the text yourself. :-)

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
< sladen> I actually stayed in a hotel and arrived to find a post-it
          note stuck to the mini-bar saying "Paul: This fridge and
          fittings are the correct way around and do not need altering"

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#186854

On 2017-09-15 10:03, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Peter Smith wrote:
>> 
>> --> Yes, I have already done that. Nevertheless the documentation on
>> that Wiki page is wrong. I'd like to report a bug or something like
>> this but the Wiki page does not provide any clues on how to do that.
>> I don't want anybody else to waste his/her time by reading and
>> following that wrong documentation. Do you know how to file a bug for
>> that Wiki page?
> 
> The wiki is meant to be updated by users too - register for an account
> and fix the text yourself. :-)

Yes, you can correct wiki issues yourself once you have registered an 
account. As for actual bugs you find in the functional portion of the 
wiki you can file a bug against the pseudo-package[1] wiki.debian.org

[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages
-- 
jam

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