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  LibreOffice, missing bits Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2017-09-10 22:40 +0200
    Re: LibreOffice, missing bits Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2017-09-10 22:50 +0200
      Re: LibreOffice, missing bits Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2017-09-10 23:10 +0200
        Re: LibreOffice, missing bits Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-11 09:30 +0200
    Face header and Thunderbird (was: Re: LibreOffice, missing bits) Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-09-15 04:50 +0200
      Re: Face header and Thunderbird soyeomul@doraji.xyz (Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)) - 2017-09-15 08:00 +0200
        Re: Face header and Thunderbird Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-09-15 11:00 +0200
      Re: Face header and Thunderbird Markus Schönhaber <debian-user@list-post.mks-mail.de> - 2017-09-15 10:30 +0200
        Re: Face header and Thunderbird Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-09-15 11:00 +0200

#186664 — LibreOffice, missing bits

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Hello All,

The latest version of LO in testing (v5.4.1) is lacking libreoffice-kde
and libreoffice-style-oxygen.  At least, that is, they are in the AMD64
suite.  Doesn't affect usability, but leaves the i/f looking out of place
on my desktop.

I've been unsuccessful in determining why these two packages are no
longer available in testing (my search foo probably not being up to
snuff). Does anybody have an idea why?

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You couldn't find your feet, if you were looking for them
I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers

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#186665

On 2017-09-10 21:38 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

> The latest version of LO in testing (v5.4.1) is lacking libreoffice-kde
> and libreoffice-style-oxygen.  At least, that is, they are in the AMD64
> suite.  Doesn't affect usability, but leaves the i/f looking out of place
> on my desktop.
>
> I've been unsuccessful in determining why these two packages are no
> longer available in testing (my search foo probably not being up to
> snuff). Does anybody have an idea why?

It is mentioned in the libreoffice changelog:

,----
| libreoffice (1:5.4.1-1) unstable; urgency=medium
| [...]
|     - disable -kde and the (unmaintained for LO) oxygen theme.
|       Qt4 should go away. See
|       https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/08/msg00006.html
| [...]
|  -- Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>  Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:39:44 +0000
`----

HTH,
    Sven

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:48:44 +0200
Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> wrote:

Hello Sven,

>It is mentioned in the libreoffice changelog:

My all too cursory glance in that direction failed to spot it.

Thanks, Sven.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Never much liked playing there anyway
Banned From The Roxy - Crass

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#186669

On 2017-09-10, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:48:44 +0200
> Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Sven,
>
>>It is mentioned in the libreoffice changelog:
>
> My all too cursory glance in that direction failed to spot it.

Maybe you failed to hover the cursory over the right paragraph.

(actually this is a test post disguising itself as a stupid pun)

> Thanks, Sven.
>

-- 
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#186825 — Face header and Thunderbird (was: Re: LibreOffice, missing bits)

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Hi all,

Apologies for the thread hijack, but this issue does relate to Brad's
message ...

When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a
'face' header (different from X-Face, which is also there).

For whatever reason, Thunderbird always displays this header in the
'Normal' view - and it's huge, taking up about 17 lines. But in Normal
view, no scrollbar is provided for the header section, so it expands to
leave about 3 lines for reading the email.

Oddly, I can work around this by switching to "All Headers" view, which
gives me a scrollbar, lets me reduce the header section, and allows me
to read the mail.

Do other Thunderbird users see the same thing? I asked once before, but
started a new thread, and nobody answered ...

Have you, Brad, and others using this header, had discussions with other
recipients of your mail about how to deal with it?

I'm not suggesting you should stop sending this header, as it appears to
be a valid one, but any tips about how to deal with it, or how to
persuade Thunderbird devs to deal with it (see [1])? I don't know if
Thunderbird maintainers look at old Icedove bugs ... do I need to
re-report it?

Cheers,
Richard
[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846086

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#186828 — Re: Face header and Thunderbird

In Article <865dea1b-52f1-f6e5-8432-542440ce4af2@walnut.gen.nz>,
 Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> Apologies for the thread hijack, but this issue does relate to Brad's
> message ...
>
> When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a
> 'face' header (different from X-Face, which is also there).
>
> For whatever reason, Thunderbird always displays this header in the
> 'Normal' view - and it's huge, taking up about 17 lines. But in Normal
> view, no scrollbar is provided for the header section, so it expands to
> leave about 3 lines for reading the email.
>
> Oddly, I can work around this by switching to "All Headers" view, which
> gives me a scrollbar, lets me reduce the header section, and allows me
> to read the mail.
>
> Do other Thunderbird users see the same thing? I asked once before, but
> started a new thread, and nobody answered ...
>
> Have you, Brad, and others using this header, had discussions with other
> recipients of your mail about how to deal with it?
>
> I'm not suggesting you should stop sending this header, as it appears to
> be a valid one, but any tips about how to deal with it, or how to
> persuade Thunderbird devs to deal with it (see [1])? I don't know if
> Thunderbird maintainers look at old Icedove bugs ... do I need to
> re-report it?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846086

Hello Richard,
 
I read your thought. If so, you would be better to change mail program
for support Face and X-Face headers. How about Gnus [1]? 

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

[1]
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/soyeomul/Gnus/MaGnus/ss/Face-and-X-Face.png

-- 
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#186840 — Re: Face header and Thunderbird

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On 15/09/17 17:50, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
> I read your thought. If so, you would be better to change mail program
> for support Face and X-Face headers. How about Gnus [1]? 

Given I haven't used emacs for about 15 years, I think that might be a
bit drastic :-) Also, would it handle my caldav calendars? (apparently,
org-caldav would do that ... maybe I should check it out after all ...)

Solved, anyway (see other branch of thread).

Thanks,
Richard

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#186837 — Re: Face header and Thunderbird

Richard Hector, Fr 15 Sep 2017 04:44:41 CEST:

> When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a
> 'face' header (different from X-Face, which is also there).
> 
> For whatever reason, Thunderbird always displays this header in the
> 'Normal' view - and it's huge, taking up about 17 lines. But in Normal
> view, no scrollbar is provided for the header section, so it expands to
> leave about 3 lines for reading the email.
> 
> Oddly, I can work around this by switching to "All Headers" view, which
> gives me a scrollbar, lets me reduce the header section, and allows me
> to read the mail.
> 
> Do other Thunderbird users see the same thing?

I don't.

Did you check that your Thunderbird isn't explicitly configured to show
this header? mailnews.headers.extraExpandedHeaders, for example, may
contain a list of header fields which should be displayed, and taking a
look at other mailnews.header.* options in TB's config editor might be a
good idea too.

Did you check that it's not caused by some installed add-on by starting
TB in safe mode?

-- 
Regards
  mks

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#186839 — Re: Face header and Thunderbird

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On 15/09/17 20:23, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> Richard Hector, Fr 15 Sep 2017 04:44:41 CEST:
> 
>> When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a
>> 'face' header (different from X-Face, which is also there).
>>
>> For whatever reason, Thunderbird always displays this header in the
>> 'Normal' view - and it's huge, taking up about 17 lines. But in Normal
>> view, no scrollbar is provided for the header section, so it expands to
>> leave about 3 lines for reading the email.
>>
>> Oddly, I can work around this by switching to "All Headers" view, which
>> gives me a scrollbar, lets me reduce the header section, and allows me
>> to read the mail.
>>
>> Do other Thunderbird users see the same thing?
> I don't.
> 
> Did you check that your Thunderbird isn't explicitly configured to show
> this header? mailnews.headers.extraExpandedHeaders, for example, may
> contain a list of header fields which should be displayed, and taking a
> look at other mailnews.header.* options in TB's config editor might be a
> good idea too.

That was exactly it, thanks - I have no idea how
mailnews.headers.extraExpandedHeaders got set to 'face'. Maybe it was a
plugin I installed once ...

Thanks a lot :-)
Richard

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