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  how to roll back to jessie Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-03 13:00 +0200
    Re: how to roll back to jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-09-03 14:30 +0200
      Re: how to roll back to jessie Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 15:20 +0200
    Re: how to roll back to jessie Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-09-03 14:50 +0200
    Re: how to roll back to jessie songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-09-03 14:50 +0200
      (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-03 16:00 +0200
        Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-09-03 16:10 +0200
        Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-09-04 03:10 +0200
          Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 04:10 +0200
            Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-04 06:20 +0200
              Re: (solved) how to roll back to jessie Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-09-04 07:00 +0200
              Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 03:20 +0200
    Re: how to roll back to jessie Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 16:20 +0200

#186355 — how to roll back to jessie

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i had installed jessie a long time agotoday i run command "apt-get update"and "apt-get install ..."a lot of packages upgraded
then I find that sources.list is pointed to stablewhich means stretchclearly this is not the correct way to upgrade to stretchand some programs do not work
now i want to go back to jessiewhat should i do? Thanks!

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#186369

On Sun 03 Sep 2017 at 10:56:59 +0000, Long Wind wrote:

> i had installed jessie a long time agotoday i run command "apt-get
> update"and "apt-get install ..."a lot of packages upgraded then I find
> that sources.list is pointed to stablewhich means stretchclearly this
> is not the correct way to upgrade to stretchand some programs do not
> work now i want to go back to jessiewhat should i do? Thanks!

I do not think you can and have never seen an account of its being done
successfully.

-- 
Brian.

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#186375

On 03-09-17, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 03 Sep 2017 at 10:56:59 +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> 
> > i had installed jessie a long time agotoday i run command "apt-get
> > update"and "apt-get install ..."a lot of packages upgraded then I find
> > that sources.list is pointed to stablewhich means stretchclearly this
> > is not the correct way to upgrade to stretchand some programs do not
> > work now i want to go back to jessiewhat should i do? Thanks!
> 
> I do not think you can and have never seen an account of its being done
> successfully.
> 
> -- 
> Brian.
> 

Well, some claimed that it worked. Like, change sources lists, pin
packages to version you want to downgrade to, apt-get update && apt-get
upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and then purge misbehaving packages. And
after that another dist-upgrade. But, not sure that it will work every
time, never did it personally nor seen someone really doing it. Plus I
do not understand need for that. Just backup your data, get selection of
manually installed packages with apt-mark, or with aptitude, install
Jessie and backup your data, then use apt-mark and apt-get to install
those packages. It is much safer approach to solving that problem.

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#186371

On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 10:56:59AM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> i had installed jessie a long time agotoday i run command "apt-get update"and "apt-get install ..."a lot of packages upgraded
> then I find that sources.list is pointed to stablewhich means stretchclearly this is not the correct way to upgrade to stretchand some programs do not work
> now i want to go back to jessiewhat should i do? Thanks!


In general, this is a very difficult problem.

Your easy options:

. restore from backup

or

. change from "stable" to "stretch" and do an apt-get
dist-upgrade to bring you all the way into stretch.

All other options are much, much harder. They tend to work when
you have a few packages that you have installed by mistake, and 
not otherwise.

-dsr-

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#186372

Long Wind wrote:
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> i had installed jessie a long time agotoday i run command "apt-get update"and "apt-get install ..."a lot of packages upgraded
> then I find that sources.list is pointed to stablewhich means stretchclearly this is not the correct way to upgrade to stretchand some programs do not work
> now i want to go back to jessiewhat should i do? Thanks!

  it is likely more work than worth it.

  why not fix what isn't working?

  the release notes for stretch should cover most of
what has significantly changed.

  if i were in a similar spot i'd consider backing up 
the home directories and setting up a different partition
and installing jessie to that partition (leaving stretch
alone for now).  then as you get time figure out what
needs to be fixed for stretch.

  and next time, you'll know to not blindly say "Y" to
udpates without reading the list of packages first.


  songbird

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#186381 — (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

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I have decided re-install jessie from scratch
Thanks to all those who reply!

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#186383 — Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

On Sun 03 Sep 2017 at 13:52:57 +0000, Long Wind wrote:

> I have decided re-install jessie from scratch
> Thanks to all those who reply!

Don't forget to put jessie (not stable) in the sources.list.

-- 
Brian.

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#186411 — Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

Long Wind wrote:
...
> I have decided re-install jessie from scratch
> Thanks to all those who reply!

  you're welcome.  it's really the easiest way to
go if you want quickest and easiest approach.


  songbird

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#186413 — Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

On 9/3/17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Long Wind wrote:
> ...
>> I have decided re-install jessie from scratch
>> Thanks to all those who reply!
>
>   you're welcome.  it's really the easiest way to
> go if you want quickest and easiest approach.


It's about the "cleanest" route. You get to start all over with a
fresh, clean slate. Being able to easily save the .deb archive files
makes reinstalling favorite programs *so easy*, too.

Tools are making it easier to keep tabs primarily on the /etc
directory where we fiddle around in there, too. Beyond that, much of
what we don't want to lose ends up under /home/[user]. It has been a
very long time since I've lost anything setting wise so things are
really seeming user friendly.

You can always save the problem child install somewhere off to the
side... and then either play around with it later to learn something
new from it....

Or just delete it down the road and teach yourself something even
newer than that because Time is too precious these days.
*kernelnewbies, cough-cough* :D

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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#186420 — Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

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Thanks!
I finds today that it's really not jessieit's wheezy
it seems that wheezy is not too old for me 

  

   

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#186421 — Re: (solved) how to roll back to jessie

Long Wind composed on 2017-09-04 04:16 (UTC):

> I finds today that it's really not jessieit's wheezy
> it seems that wheezy is not too old for me 

Wheezy support is scheduled to terminate less than 9 months from today. Maybe
now is a good time to consider at least Jessie if not Stretch, since you're
installing fresh.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#186458 — Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> I finds today that it's really not jessie
> it's wheezy
>
> it seems that wheezy is not too old for me

<IMHO>
Wheezy works good. Reliable piece of software. That's what's on my server.

Jessie's OK. One of my virtual websites didn't work -- don't know why
or who was to blame. Wheezy works good, as I find I've said before.

Stretch sux, big time. I had far too many troubles with that one.

But you might take a look at Buster. I installed it on a new laptop in
the past few days, and it's looking reasonably civilized.
</  IMHO>

--
Glenn English

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#186384

On 09/03/2017 03:56 AM, Long Wind wrote:
> i had installed jessie a long time agotoday i run command "apt-get update"and "apt-get install ..."a lot of packages upgraded
> then I find that sources.list is pointed to stablewhich means stretchclearly this is not the correct way to upgrade to stretchand some programs do not work
> now i want to go back to jessiewhat should i do? Thanks!
What I would do is use another system and as root show hidden system 
files, copy fstab to home, delete all system files leaving home, as user 
delete system files in home including hidden. I leave mail and browser 
files, your choice what you want to leave. Using a net-install including 
non-free-firmware I do a core install, using the same file system and do 
not format, reboot the system and apt install what I need and then setup 
my desktop. That's what I would do.

Cheers,
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8
Registered Linux User #380263

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