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  Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 10:40 +0200
    Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-09-06 12:10 +0200
      Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2017-09-13 13:50 +0200
        Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-09-13 19:50 +0200
          Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-09-13 22:40 +0200
    Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-09-14 20:20 +0200
      Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2017-09-18 12:00 +0200

#186500 — Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid

Hello,

I have installed Debian (Sid) on a Dell precision M4500 from 2010.

It has the Nvidia Quadro FX 880M graphical card. I have some freezes and
graphical glitches when using the nouveau driver. They appears time to
time (the window I was using is still there but I cannot see it anymore
except if I put the mouse cursor on it.

I tried the proprietary driver (nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver for this
card) which has no glitches but suspend and hibernate does not work anymore.

*Does someone find a solution to have suspend and hibernate working with
this card and the proprietary driver ?*

Or:

*Does someone have a solution to fix the graphical glitchs I have with
the nouveau driver?*

Thanks,
Pétùr


P-S : lspci

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
FX 880M] (rev a2)

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#186505

Pétùr composed on 2017-09-06 10:38 (UTC+0200):

> I have installed Debian (Sid) on a Dell precision M4500 from 2010.

> It has the Nvidia Quadro FX 880M graphical card. I have some freezes and
> graphical glitches when using the nouveau driver. They appears time to
> time (the window I was using is still there but I cannot see it anymore
> except if I put the mouse cursor on it.

> I tried the proprietary driver (nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver for this
> card) which has no glitches but suspend and hibernate does not work anymore.

> *Does someone find a solution to have suspend and hibernate working with
> this card and the proprietary driver ?*

> Or:

> *Does someone have a solution to fix the graphical glitchs I have with
> the nouveau driver?*

> P-S : lspci

> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
> FX 880M] (rev a2)

That's probably new enough to be supported by the default Xorg driver. Purge the
nouveau Xorg driver and all traces of the proprietary driver, and Xorg should
automatically use the default (modesetting, which will show up in Xorg.0.log as
modeset(0)). I have no complaints using the modesetting driver, but I don't use
laptops or suspend either.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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#186738

Le 06/09/2017 à 12:02, Felix Miata a écrit :
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
>> FX 880M] (rev a2)

> That's probably new enough to be supported by the default Xorg driver. Purge the
> nouveau Xorg driver and all traces of the proprietary driver, and Xorg should
> automatically use the default (modesetting, which will show up in Xorg.0.log as
> modeset(0)). I have no complaints using the modesetting driver, but I don't use
> laptops or suspend either.

I did purge/reinstall the nouveau Xorg driver and delete any nvidia.
packages.

It works fine most of the time but I still have graphical problems time
to time. It is like the desktop go back in time and display windows
which were open 15 min ago (like a snapshot). When it happens, if I move
the mouse cursor I can see the actual window which is really open behind
the snapshot. If I maximize a window, it reset all the screen and I can
work again.

I made a quick screencast showing a little bit the issue:

https://ncloud.zaclys.com/index.php/s/R8JE9vKNg1llata

Is there something to do to fix that?

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#186751

On 09/13/2017 06:46 AM, Pétùr wrote:
> Le 06/09/2017 à 12:02, Felix Miata a écrit :
>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
>>> FX 880M] (rev a2)
>> That's probably new enough to be supported by the default Xorg driver. Purge the
>> nouveau Xorg driver and all traces of the proprietary driver, and Xorg should
>> automatically use the default (modesetting, which will show up in Xorg.0.log as
>> modeset(0)). I have no complaints using the modesetting driver, but I don't use
>> laptops or suspend either.
> I did purge/reinstall the nouveau Xorg driver and delete any nvidia.
> packages.
>
> It works fine most of the time but I still have graphical problems time
> to time. It is like the desktop go back in time and display windows
> which were open 15 min ago (like a snapshot). When it happens, if I move
> the mouse cursor I can see the actual window which is really open behind
> the snapshot. If I maximize a window, it reset all the screen and I can
> work again.
>
> I made a quick screencast showing a little bit the issue:
>
> https://ncloud.zaclys.com/index.php/s/R8JE9vKNg1llata
>
> Is there something to do to fix that?
>
>
I think it's highly unlikely that this is from a video card driver. It 
sounds like something in the operating system itself.
BTW, you will get better performance from the video card if you get the 
proper NVidia driver and install it.

--doug

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#186762

Doug composed on 2017-09-13 12:40 (UTC-0500):

>Pétùr wrote:

>> Felix Miata composed:

>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
>>>> FX 880M] (rev a2)
...
>>> I have no complaints using the modesetting driver, but I don't use
>>> laptops or suspend either.

>> I did purge/reinstall the nouveau Xorg driver and delete any nvidia.
>> packages.

>> It works fine most of the time but I still have graphical problems time
>> to time.
...
> BTW, you will get better performance from the video card if you get the 
> proper NVidia driver and install it.

How do you know he will? Do you have a GT216GLM [QuadroFX 880M] (rev a2)? Just
because many people do better with proprietary drivers does not mean everyone
will. People who use PCs for work rather than play won't necessarily notice any
difference, assuming there is any difference. With Pétùr's particular hardware
and software combination, there could be none.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#186817

On 09/06/2017 01:38 AM, Pétùr wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have installed Debian (Sid) on a Dell precision M4500 from 2010.
> 
> It has the Nvidia Quadro FX 880M graphical card. I have some freezes and
> graphical glitches when using the nouveau driver. They appears time to
> time (the window I was using is still there but I cannot see it anymore
> except if I put the mouse cursor on it.
> 
> I tried the proprietary driver (nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver for this
> card) which has no glitches but suspend and hibernate does not work anymore.
> 
> *Does someone find a solution to have suspend and hibernate working with
> this card and the proprietary driver ?*
> 
> Or:
> 
> *Does someone have a solution to fix the graphical glitchs I have with
> the nouveau driver?*
> 
> Thanks,
> Pétùr
> 
> 
> P-S : lspci
> 
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
> FX 880M] (rev a2)

Hello,

I do not know that nvidia card, but for nvidia I know two packages that 
need to be installed, 'xserver-xorg-video-nvidia' this package is nvidia 
version 375.xx and is the current nvidia for Sid/Testing and the other 
package is 'nvidia-driver', maybe installing package nvidia-driver will 
pull-in all you need, I don't remember, but this is the driver I run on 
this machine with geforce gt610.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.10.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8
Registered Linux User #380263

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#186941

Le 14/09/2017 à 20:18, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
>> P-S : lspci
>>
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro
>> FX 880M] (rev a2)
>
> I do not know that nvidia card, but for nvidia I know two packages that
> need to be installed, 'xserver-xorg-video-nvidia' this package is nvidia
> version 375.xx and is the current nvidia for Sid/Testing and the other
> package is 'nvidia-driver', maybe installing package nvidia-driver will
> pull-in all you need, I don't remember, but this is the driver I run on
> this machine with geforce gt610.

Hello,

For my card, it seems I need the legacy 340 driver (and
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-304xx). It is what nvidia-detect says
and I have a warning message about this when installing nvidia-driver
and xserver-xorg-video-nvidia.

I tried anyway to install server-xorg-video-nvidia and nvidia-driver
because my card is listed as compatible in the 375.82 notes [1] (Quadro
FX 880M is listed).

[1]
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/375.82/README/supportedchips.html

With 375.82 driver, I have a resolution problem (start in 640x480) but I
suppose I can fix it in xorg.conf. More important, I am still unable to
suspend or hibernate. The laptop never wakes up.

So 375.82 is the same for me than 340xx.

I stick for now with the nouveau driver despites the graphical glitches
(suspend is more important for me in this moment).

I am still *very* interesting by any solution either to be able to
suspend with nvidia-driver (340) or to fix the bug of nouveau driver. I
am pragmatical in this case and will use whatever works best.

Pétùr

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