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  Computer friendly blood pressure? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-08-29 15:00 +0200
    Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-08-29 15:30 +0200
      Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-08-29 16:30 +0200
        Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:20 +0200
    Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-08-29 17:20 +0200
      Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:20 +0200
        Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-08-29 18:40 +0200
          Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:30 +0200
            Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:00 +0200
            Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-08-29 20:00 +0200
              Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-09-01 04:10 +0200
    Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Wilko Fokken <wfokken@web.de> - 2017-08-30 22:00 +0200
      Re: Computer friendly blood pressure? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-09-01 03:50 +0200

#186127 — Computer friendly blood pressure?

For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
it Apple or Android].

A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.

I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
capability.
Preferred solutions would be something that:
  uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
or
  has USB connectivity
Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.

Already written Linux apps a plus.

Any suggestions/comments?

Thank you.


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> From: rowlett@cloud85.net
> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>
> For sometime I"ve been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
> communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
> it Apple or Android].
>
> A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
>
> I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
> capability.
> Preferred solutions would be something that:
> uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
> or
> has USB connectivity
> Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.
>
> Already written Linux apps a plus.
>
> Any suggestions/comments?
>
> Thank you.

I am not a physician.
You may want to do some reading under the term bio-feedback before you engage
in experimenting with yourself.  Blood pressure, pulse, blood-oxygen levels, even
a cardiogram and a brain function monitor, among many other live life signs, can
all be displayed in real time.  Some think that they may be able without medication
to learn how to control them.  It may have fatal effects or at least reverse effects.
There may be a good reason why you can not consciously control your heart
or other organs.  It is like a systemd thing, it only works unmonitored :)

I have been a diver for long and lately with a relative's need for monitoring
oxygen I played around with that little thing, holding my breath and taking
deep breaths.  I could go from maximum to a near faint measurement in
a matter of 3 minutes.  I gave up playing.

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#186133

On 08/29/2017 08:26 AM, Fungi4All wrote:
>> From: rowlett@cloud85.net
>> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>>
>> For sometime I"ve been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
>> communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
>> it Apple or Android].
>>
>> A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
>>
>> I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
>> capability.
>> Preferred solutions would be something that:
>> uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
>> or
>> has USB connectivity
>> Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.
>>
>> Already written Linux apps a plus.
>>
>> Any suggestions/comments?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> I am not a physician.

so?

> You may want to do some reading under the term bio-feedback before
> you engage in experimenting with yourself.

Who said/hinted absolutely anything remotely related to experimentation? 
??? ??????? !

I have a very limited storage in an inconvenient location.

I want a useful amount of data stored conveniently.



  Blood pressure, pulse, blood-oxygen levels, even
> a cardiogram and a brain function monitor, among many other live life signs, can
> all be displayed in real time.  Some think that they may be able without medication
> to learn how to control them.  It may have fatal effects or at least reverse effects.
> There may be a good reason why you can not consciously control your heart
> or other organs.  It is like a systemd thing, it only works unmonitored :)
>
> I have been a diver for long and lately with a relative's need for monitoring
> oxygen I played around with that little thing, holding my breath and taking
> deep breaths.  I could go from maximum to a near faint measurement in
> a matter of 3 minutes.  I gave up playing.
>

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#186154

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> From: rowlett@cloud85.net
>
>> I am not a physician.
> so?

It is good to clear things out when giving health related advise.

>> You may want to do some reading under the term bio-feedback before
>> you engage in experimenting with yourself.
>
> Who said/hinted absolutely anything remotely related to experimentation?

What's the purpose of creating a database of readings then?
This obsession with readings becomes a health problem in itself.  No reading ever
can say what your blood pressure was 5' before or after.  Maybe twice a day when
you are fully calm is all you need. What will you or anyone else colclude from
a database of readings?  Nothing.  That's what I am talking about, it is meaningless
or it can get dangerous.  5 readings in one morning of 11/7 and one of 15/11 can
send you into a panic of something going wrong when there isn't.  And that can
cause you a problem.

Sorry for worrying, go fill 4 terrabytes up of pressure and pulse readings.

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#186137

On 2017-08-29, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
> communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
> it Apple or Android].
>
> A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
>
> I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
> capability.
> Preferred solutions would be something that:
>   uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
> or
>   has USB connectivity
> Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.

One of the supported Omrons with this?

> Already written Linux apps a plus.

https://github.com/LazyT/obpm

> Any suggestions/comments?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>
>
>


-- 
"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places.
But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very
gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure
it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." *A Farewell to Arms*

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#186139

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Hi, Curt,

I have used an Omron Evolv upper arm blood pressure monitor since my triple
bye-pass earlier this year.

FWIW I have found the Omron Connect application and my Samsung Galaxy Note
sufficient for my needs and when talking/showing to medical staff.

I don't think anyone produces what you are looking for (I couldn't find
anything like that or better than the Evolv when I was looking) but perhaps
using a tablet instead of a PC may work for you.

Certainly the Evolv does everything it "says on the tin", and is - as far
as checking with my doctor's, and the local hospital's readings go - as
accurate as one could wish.

HTH,

Terence

On 29 August 2017 at 16:13, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2017-08-29, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> > For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
> > communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
> > it Apple or Android].
> >
> > A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
> >
> > I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
> > capability.
> > Preferred solutions would be something that:
> >   uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
> > or
> >   has USB connectivity
> > Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.
>
> One of the supported Omrons with this?
>
> > Already written Linux apps a plus.
>
> https://github.com/LazyT/obpm
>
> > Any suggestions/comments?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > PLUG mailing list
> > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken
> places.
> But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very
> gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be
> sure
> it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." *A Farewell to
> Arms*
>
>

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#186141

On 2017-08-29, Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Curt,

Hi.

> I have used an Omron Evolv upper arm blood pressure monitor since my triple
> bye-pass earlier this year.

Hope it wasn't bye-bye pass surgery.

;-) (sorry). 

> FWIW I have found the Omron Connect application and my Samsung Galaxy Note
> sufficient for my needs and when talking/showing to medical staff.

Right but I wanted to remain within the contraints of the OP's problem
statement.

> I don't think anyone produces what you are looking for (I couldn't find
> anything like that or better than the Evolv when I was looking) but perhaps
> using a tablet instead of a PC may work for you.

Actually I'm not looking. I have an Omron M3 recommended by my new
"toubib" (toubib or not toubib) who recommended it because I was getting
high, in-office readings (turned out to be white coat hypertension--this
doctor makes me nervous).

No computer connectivity for this M3 model. 

But apparently there are a couple of Omrom models with PC connectivity
which work with the open-source software to which I gave the link.

> Certainly the Evolv does everything it "says on the tin", and is - as far
> as checking with my doctor's, and the local hospital's readings go - as
> accurate as one could wish.

Thanks for the heads up and hope your health is stable and good.

-- 
"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places.
But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very
gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure
it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." *A Farewell to Arms*

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Thanks, it is, Curt, and I hope yours is, and stays, good!

I would be grateful for the link, though- I use Garmin Connect for my Fenix
watch, and it would be good to check both on the same screen(s).

To celebrate I bought a Caterham Seven Supersport and am now really
enjoying my regained health!

Terence


On 29 August 2017 at 17:34, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2017-08-29, Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Curt,
>
> Hi.
>
> > I have used an Omron Evolv upper arm blood pressure monitor since my
> triple
> > bye-pass earlier this year.
>
> Hope it wasn't bye-bye pass surgery.
>
> ;-) (sorry).
>
> > FWIW I have found the Omron Connect application and my Samsung Galaxy
> Note
> > sufficient for my needs and when talking/showing to medical staff.
>
> Right but I wanted to remain within the contraints of the OP's problem
> statement.
>
> > I don't think anyone produces what you are looking for (I couldn't find
> > anything like that or better than the Evolv when I was looking) but
> perhaps
> > using a tablet instead of a PC may work for you.
>
> Actually I'm not looking. I have an Omron M3 recommended by my new
> "toubib" (toubib or not toubib) who recommended it because I was getting
> high, in-office readings (turned out to be white coat hypertension--this
> doctor makes me nervous).
>
> No computer connectivity for this M3 model.
>
> But apparently there are a couple of Omrom models with PC connectivity
> which work with the open-source software to which I gave the link.
>
> > Certainly the Evolv does everything it "says on the tin", and is - as far
> > as checking with my doctor's, and the local hospital's readings go - as
> > accurate as one could wish.
>
> Thanks for the heads up and hope your health is stable and good.
>
> --
> "The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken
> places.
> But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very
> gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be
> sure
> it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." *A Farewell to
> Arms*
>
>

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#186147

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VMT


On 29 August 2017 at 18:55, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2017-08-29, Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, it is, Curt, and I hope yours is, and stays, good!
> >
> > I would be grateful for the link, though- I use Garmin Connect for my
> Fenix
> > watch, and it would be good to check both on the same screen(s).
>
> https://github.com/LazyT/obpm
>
>  Omron Blood Pressure Manager
>
>  The current version supports the following features:
>
>    Omron HEM-7322U (M500 IT, M6 Comfort IT) and HEM-7131U (M400 IT, M3
>    IT)
> ...
>
> > To celebrate I bought a Caterham Seven Supersport and am now really
> > enjoying my regained health!
> >
> > Terence
> >
>
> --
> "The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken
> places.
> But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very
> gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be
> sure
> it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." *A Farewell to
> Arms*
>
>

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#186148

On 2017-08-29, Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, it is, Curt, and I hope yours is, and stays, good!
>
> I would be grateful for the link, though- I use Garmin Connect for my Fenix
> watch, and it would be good to check both on the same screen(s).

https://github.com/LazyT/obpm

 Omron Blood Pressure Manager
 
 The current version supports the following features:

   Omron HEM-7322U (M500 IT, M6 Comfort IT) and HEM-7131U (M400 IT, M3
   IT)
...

> To celebrate I bought a Caterham Seven Supersport and am now really
> enjoying my regained health!
>
> Terence
>

-- 
"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places.
But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very
gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure
it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." *A Farewell to Arms*

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#186263

On 08/29/2017 12:55 PM, Curt wrote:
> On 2017-08-29, Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, it is, Curt, and I hope yours is, and stays, good!
>>
>> I would be grateful for the link, though- I use Garmin Connect for my Fenix
>> watch, and it would be good to check both on the same screen(s).
>
> https://github.com/LazyT/obpm

That page had been mentioned in another group.

>
>  Omron Blood Pressure Manager
>
>  The current version supports the following features:
>
>    Omron HEM-7322U (M500 IT, M6 Comfort IT) and HEM-7131U (M400 IT, M3
>    IT)

I haven't been able to determine which current model(s) match the 
specified ones closely enough to be likely to work.
I will require a current model as I wish to obtain it from a distributor 
or recognized re-seller (the massive discounts shown on some Amazon 
pages make me wary).

I do not own nor intend to buy a smartphone.
I do not wish to store any data anywhere except on my personal hardware.
Also my doctor is revising how frequently and when he wants me to check.
I realize those restrictions limit my options.

Any idea of a group where monitoring blood pressure on a personal 
computer would be more common than on a general Linux list?


>
>> To celebrate I bought a Caterham Seven Supersport and am now really
>> enjoying my regained health!
>>
>> Terence
>>
>

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#186210

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:44:07AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
> communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
> it Apple or Android].
> 
> A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
> 
> I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
> capability.
> Preferred solutions would be something that:
>  uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
> or
>  has USB connectivity
> Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.
> 
> Already written Linux apps a plus.
> 
> Any suggestions/comments?
> 
> Thank you.


Moin,

for my own blood pressure control, I wrote a shell script that serves
me well.

[I get my data through a simple, but fairly precise wrist cuff device
 without capability of saving my data.]

Parallel to measuring my blood pressure, I call up my own shell script
by typing just two letters: 'bl': an alias for my shell script 'blutdruck'
(blood pressure).

When my wrist device shows my data: systolic pressure, diastolic pressure
and my pulse rate, I type these 3 data into my shell script; after that,
my shell script asks for a comment: Here I can add comments to my pressure
results that will fit to a single line.

Finally, my script shows all my data of the actual month, each on a single
line, with my comments (and date+time) added. With a month passing, the
script automatically starts a new file.


(At the end of this script follows an examle of it's output per month;
 comments are free text in any language.

 Check that your system provides parent directories if necessary.

 If you translate certain definitions, be sure to do it in a consistent
 way.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


#! /bin/bash


#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Begin Functions  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

function Get_Date_by_Names		()	{

#	yyyy=$(date +%Y)		# year	(2017)
#	mon=$(date +%-m)		# month (1..12)
	mon=$(date +%m)			# month (01..12)
#	MON=$(date +%b)			# MONTH	(Jan..Dez)
#	dow=$(date +%w)			# dow	(0..6)
	DOW=$(date +%a)			# DOW	(So..Sa)
	dom=$(date +%d)			# day of month
	
	datum=$(date "+%a, %d.%m.%y  %H.%M")
	dmonat=$(date "+%m.%y")

#	(Combined `date`-Data require a single '+' only)
}

function Display ()	{

clear

echo
echo	"	Blutdruck Statistik ${dmonat}"
echo	"	-----------------------------"

echo
tail -n 16 Blutdruck_${dmonat}
echo

exit

}
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  End of Functions  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

clear

typeset -i ODruck=0 UDruck=0 Puls=0	# 'integer': non-numeric input => '0'


	Get_Date_by_Names
#	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[ ! -d /home/Desktop/Blutdruck ] && mkdir -p /home/Desktop/Blutdruck
cd /home/Desktop/Blutdruck

sudo touch				Blutdruck_${dmonat}
sudo chown root:staff	Blutdruck_${dmonat}
sudo chmod 0660			Blutdruck_${dmonat}

echo
echo	"	   Blutdruck Statistik ${dmonat}"
echo	"	--------------------------------"

echo
tail -n 14 Blutdruck_${dmonat}
echo

echo -n "	Blutdruck, oberer Wert: ";  read ODruck
[ $ODruck -eq 0 ] && Display
#					 ~~~~~~~
echo -n "	Blutdruck, unterer Wert: "; read UDruck
[ $UDruck -eq 0 ] && Display
#					 ~~~~~~~
echo -n "	PulsSchläge pro Minute: "; read Puls
[ $UDruck -eq 0 ] && Display
#					 ~~~~~~~
echo -n "	+ Kommentar ? : "; read Info

echo "	${datum}  = ${ODruck}/${UDruck} mm Hg // ${Puls}/min	[${Info}]" | tee -a Blutdruck_${dmonat};
if	[ "${DOW}" = "So" ]; then
	echo "	-----------------------------------------------"	>> Blutdruck_${dmonat};
	echo														>> Blutdruck_${dmonat};
fi

 Display
#~~~~~~~

# (End of Prog)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




Example of this prog's output (august 2017)
–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––


	Do, 24.08.17  03.32  = 148/83 mm Hg // 65/min	[n.Kr.haus, n.unklaren Pillen, mit Verst]
	Do, 24.08.17  10.20  = 135/88 mm Hg // 61/min	[(gest: Kart+Rapunzel+Feta) n.Pillen, o. Frühstück, mit Verst]
	Do, 24.08.17  14.42  = 115/64 mm Hg // 66/min	[(Pillen alle 24h statt 36h) ohne Verst, Hafermüsli]
	Do, 24.08.17  15.51  = 112/67 mm Hg // 63/min	[dito, n.4T.Tee]
	Do, 24.08.17  18.32  = 122/72 mm Hg // 68/min	[gerade mit Rad zurück von Statenzijl]
	Do, 24.08.17  19.34  = 121/71 mm Hg // 63/min	[dito, 1 h danach]
	Fr, 25.08.17  07.29  = 134/83 mm Hg // 62/min	[wenig Schlaf; gerade aufgestanden]
	Fr, 25.08.17  18.56  = 150/77 mm Hg // 68/min	[Pillen an 36h Ende]
	Fr, 25.08.17  21.44  = 115/69 mm Hg // 73/min	[n. Tee]
	Mo, 28.08.17  09.11  = 111/65 mm Hg // 68/min	[Direkt mit Rad aus Bunde zurück]
	Di, 29.08.17  02.29  = 143/67 mm Hg // 62/min	[Beine hoch; P.37h]
	Di, 29.08.17  02.32  = 115/69 mm Hg // 69/min	[dito; Beine unten]
	Mi, 30.08.17  02.01  = 126/72 mm Hg // 68/min	[n. kart. m. gebr. gemüse]
	Mi, 30.08.17  14.54  = 118/61 mm Hg // 78/min	[Bauchgrimmen (Möhren,Zwetschen?), bessernd]

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#186261

On 08/30/2017 02:33 PM, Wilko Fokken wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:44:07AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with
>> communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be
>> it Apple or Android].
>>
>> A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look.
>>
>> I currently have a wrist cuff type with memory but no communication
>> capability.
>> Preferred solutions would be something that:
>>  uses the same removable media as digital cameras.
>> or
>>  has USB connectivity
>> Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity would be acceptable.
>>
>> Already written Linux apps a plus.
>>
>> Any suggestions/comments?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
>
> Moin,
>
> for my own blood pressure control, I wrote a shell script that serves
> me well.
>
> [I get my data through a simple, but fairly precise wrist cuff device
>  without capability of saving my data.]
> [snip]

Thank you for the script.
My doctor is revising how many and when he wants me to check.
For some of them my computer will not be conveniently available.
Also I don't have confidence in me transcribing data accurately.

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