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Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

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First post2017-08-26 06:40 +0200
Last post2017-08-28 02:30 +0200
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  Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing  list davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-08-26 06:40 +0200
    Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user  mailing list Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2017-08-26 17:10 +0200
      Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user  mailing list davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-08-26 19:40 +0200
      Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user  mailing list davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-08-26 20:10 +0200
        Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user  mailing list Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2017-08-27 17:40 +0200
          Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user  mailing list davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-08-28 02:30 +0200

#185964 — Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

Fromdavidson@freevolt.org
Date2017-08-26 06:40 +0200
SubjectAsk the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list
Message-ID<uiB33-52q-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote to debian-user[1]:

> On 24/08/17 20:51, Anonymous wrote to debian-user:
>> I'm seeing this in Tails [...]
>
> Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list.

If this was intended to discourage such questions here, I think it is
not a fair objection.

I've therefore expressed my own view on the subject, concisely, in the
subject line.

1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg01454.html

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#185988 — Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

FromMario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com>
Date2017-08-26 17:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list
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On 25/08/17 23:39, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote to debian-user[1]:
>> Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list.
> 
> If this was intended to discourage such questions here, I think it is
> not a fair objection.

An isosceles triangle is a triangle, but Tails is not Debian.

Your comparison fails because Tails is a distribution of its own not
part of Debian in any way, just as Ubuntu or many or the other
derivatives of Debian.

Whatever you find in Tails, is there because of a Tails developer put it
there.

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#185992 — Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

Fromdavidson@freevolt.org
Date2017-08-26 19:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list
Message-ID<uiNdT-43q-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:

> On 25/08/17 23:39, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote to debian-user[1]:
>>> Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list.
>>
>> If this was intended to discourage such questions here, I think it is
>> not a fair objection.
>
> An isosceles triangle is a triangle, but Tails is not Debian.
>
> Your comparison fails because Tails is a distribution of its own not
> part of Debian in any way, just as Ubuntu or many or the other
> derivatives of Debian.

"just as Ubuntu or many *of* the other derivatives of Debian."

Fair enough. Tails is a debian derivative that is not a Debian Pure
Blend[1]; ie, it is not merely "a subset of Debian that is configured
to support a particular target group out-of-the-box".

At first, I thought that it might be a Pure Blend. FWiW, This page
convinced me you are correct:
https://tails.boum.org/contribute/relationship_with_upstream/

Thank you for elaborating.

1. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends

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#185993 — Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

Fromdavidson@freevolt.org
Date2017-08-26 20:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list
Message-ID<uiNGV-4ta-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:

> On 25/08/17 23:39, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote to debian-user[1]:
>>> Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list.
>>
>> If this was intended to discourage such questions here, I think it is
>> not a fair objection.
>
> An isosceles triangle is a triangle, but Tails is not Debian.
>
> Your comparison fails because Tails is a distribution of its own not
> part of Debian in any way, just as Ubuntu or many or the other
> derivatives of Debian.
>
> Whatever you find in Tails, is there because of a Tails developer
> put it there.

I am perpelexed by this last statement, since the uri in the error
message reported by the Tails user[1]

  Failed - 0B - InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/ debian stretch InRelease

points to what the release notes suggest is a debian repository[2].

1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg01420.html
2. https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#deprecation-of-ftp-apt-mirrors

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#186021 — Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

FromMario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com>
Date2017-08-27 17:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list
Message-ID<uj7Pj-16w-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 26/08/17 13:06, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
>> Whatever you find in Tails, is there because of a Tails developer
>> put it there.
> 
> I am perpelexed by this last statement, since the uri in the error
> message reported by the Tails user[1]

..which a Tails developer has there, like I said.

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#186051 — Re: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list

Fromdavidson@freevolt.org
Date2017-08-28 02:30 +0200
SubjectRe: Ask the isosceles triangle people. This is the TRIANGLE-user mailing list
Message-ID<ujg6e-6Od-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:

> On 26/08/17 13:06, davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
>>> Whatever you find in Tails, is there because of a Tails developer
>>> put it there.
>>
>> I am perpelexed by this last statement, since the uri in the error
>> message reported by the Tails user[1]
>
> ..which a Tails developer has there, like I said.

LOL!

All right, my friend. That is indeed a conceivable interpretation of
what you said.

Thank you for bikeshedding with me. Hopefully we can do it again
sometime.

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