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  need help on audio recording Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 00:50 +0200
    RE: need help on audio recording "John Ratliff" <jratliff@bluemarble.net> - 2017-08-14 02:40 +0200
      Re: need help on audio recording Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 04:20 +0200
      Re: need help on audio recording Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 04:40 +0200
        Re: need help on audio recording David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-14 07:30 +0200
          Re: need help on audio recording deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:30 +0200
            Re: need help on audio recording <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-08-14 11:10 +0200
              Re: need help on audio recording Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:20 +0200
              Re: need help on audio recording Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 15:50 +0200
              Re: need help on audio recording deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:20 +0200
                Re: need help on audio recording Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-14 21:50 +0200
                  Re: need help on audio recording <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-08-14 22:00 +0200
                    Re: need help on audio recording <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-08-14 22:10 +0200
                      Re: need help on audio recording Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-14 22:30 +0200
                    Re: need help on audio recording deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 22:10 +0200
                  Re: need help on audio recording Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-14 22:50 +0200
                    Re: need help on audio recording Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 01:00 +0200
                    Re: need help on audio recording deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 01:30 +0200
                    Re: need help on audio recording rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-08-15 16:10 +0200

#185132 — need help on audio recording

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it seem  alsa isn't easy for mei want to record audio that comes from line in of sound card
amixer -c 0 sset Line,0 50%,50% unmute cap
command above seems OK, I can hear sound from line in after running the command
arecord -t wav -d 10 foo.wav
and run aplay, I can't hear any sound
Thanks!

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#185134

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I would suggest trying audacity. It’s pretty useful and will give you immediate feedback of what is being recorded.

 

From: Long Wind [mailto:longwind2@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:41 PM
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: need help on audio recording

 

it seem  alsa isn't easy for me

i want to record audio that comes from line in of sound card

 

amixer -c 0 sset Line,0 50%,50% unmute cap

 

command above seems OK, I can hear sound from line in after running the command

 

arecord -t wav -d 10 foo.wav

 

and run aplay, I can't hear any sound

 

Thanks!

 

 

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#185137

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arecord/aplay are basic toolsif they not work, I don't expect other tools can work 

    On Monday, August 14, 2017 8:39 AM, John Ratliff <jratliff@bluemarble.net> wrote:
 

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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:41 PM
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: need help on audio recording  it seem  alsa isn't easy for mei want to record audio that comes from line in of sound card  amixer -c 0 sset Line,0 50%,50% unmute cap  command above seems OK, I can hear sound from line in after running the command  arecord -t wav -d 10 foo.wav  and run aplay, I can't hear any sound  Thanks!    

   

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I have installed audacitythough i can hear sound from line in of sound cardi never be able to see sound wave in audacityeven after making choices by click this or that button
  

    On Monday, August 14, 2017 8:39 AM, John Ratliff <jratliff@bluemarble.net> wrote:
 

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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:41 PM
To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: need help on audio recording  it seem  alsa isn't easy for mei want to record audio that comes from line in of sound card  amixer -c 0 sset Line,0 50%,50% unmute cap  command above seems OK, I can hear sound from line in after running the command  arecord -t wav -d 10 foo.wav  and run aplay, I can't hear any sound  Thanks!    

   

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#185149

On 08/13/17 19:27, Long Wind wrote:
> I have installed audacitythough i can hear sound from line in of sound cardi never be able to see sound wave in audacityeven after making choices by click this or that button

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem


Have you tried RTFM?

http://manual.audacityteam.org/

http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/faq.html


Or community help?

https://forum.audacityteam.org/


David

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#185154

Perhaps I start offering babysitting for hire. 

"never be able to see sound wave in audacityeven after making choices by
click this or that button"

Long Wind definitely did not read the manual :)

Long Wind needs to learn how to learn and perhaps that there are manual
pages

Long Wind needs to do his/her homework

regards

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 09:23:22AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I start offering babysitting for hire. 

[other unnecessary borderline abuse elided]

C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult. From
what can be seen here, Long Wind has crossed a large cultural gap
to be here. Reading docs is sometimes difficult, even for me (and
I was born in a language which is most probably neighbour to yours
and neighbour to our current common English).

If you don't have the time (or the knowledge) to answer, just don't.
If you have (and you often have, and your contribs here are really
good), do.

But please, don't pour sarcasm on people who (pretty obviously)
aren't ill-intentioned, just struggling with a daunting cultural
chasm. Pretty please.

(And tell *me* whenever I do the same: I'm far from perfect in that
department and can use some feedback too :)

Thanks
- -- tomás
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#185159

On 08/14/2017 05:06 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 09:23:22AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps I start offering babysitting for hire.
> 
> [other unnecessary borderline abuse elided]
> 
> C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult. From
> what can be seen here, Long Wind has crossed a large cultural gap
> to be here. 

He has been asked to respect the group norm, more than once, and cease 
top-posting. Mutual respect goes a long ways in tech support. If you 
want respect you give respect. Ric


-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#185177

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Thank tomas!
but the point isn't culture gapi can read all documentation
but if i have to read so many manuals as suggested by some useri'd rather try bsd

it turns out that the problem is with IGain
Thanks to all those who reply!

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#185183

tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> 
> C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult. From
> what can be seen here, Long Wind has crossed a large cultural gap
> to be here. Reading docs is sometimes difficult, even for me (and
> I was born in a language which is most probably neighbour to yours
> and neighbour to our current common English).
> 

I wasn't unfriendly at all. The point is you can read from the question at
what level this OP is. So as Ric Moore said, mutual respect is expected, in
my world you get what you asked for. Stupid questions get stupid answers
etc.

> If you don't have the time (or the knowledge) to answer, just don't.
> If you have (and you often have, and your contribs here are really
> good), do.
> 

The point is the guy should read manuals, and as he later mentioned he would
try rather BSD if he had to read manuals. This attitude can not be
tolerated. We all are busy and at least I do not want to do someones
homework especially if he/she is being lazy, especially if these are
basics, described and commented on tausand places in the net.

> But please, don't pour sarcasm on people who (pretty obviously)
> aren't ill-intentioned, just struggling with a daunting cultural
> chasm. Pretty please.
> 

Agree, I hope Long Wind got my message anyway. I also spent hours of reading
documentation. There wasn't the internet as it is today, so I expect when
someone asks something to show at least the attitude of willing to learn
and not complaining why this and why that is difficult. It is difficult if
you don't understand or know. Knowledge and understanding make things easy.

And regarding cultural differencies, I spent a lot of time learning english
and my mother language is far from english, well it is still indoeuropean,
but it cost a lot of time and money to bring it at the level it is now, so
again, respect the others, their time and their knowledge should be a must
and I could not read anything of this in Long Wings question.
Some poor guy who discovered Linux, wants to do something .... well ... some
people may be better use windows or no computer at all.

> (And tell *me* whenever I do the same: I'm far from perfect in that
> department and can use some feedback too :)
> 

I admit that I am not that tolerant, but I did not expect you to comment on
my post.

regards

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#185213

On Monday 14 August 2017 10:20:01 deloptes wrote:

> tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult. From
> > what can be seen here, Long Wind has crossed a large cultural gap
> > to be here. Reading docs is sometimes difficult, even for me (and
> > I was born in a language which is most probably neighbour to yours
> > and neighbour to our current common English).
>
> I wasn't unfriendly at all. The point is you can read from the
> question at what level this OP is. So as Ric Moore said, mutual
> respect is expected, in my world you get what you asked for. Stupid
> questions get stupid answers etc.
>
What if, in addition to jumping into the English speaking world, a high 
hurdle itself, and has just opened the networking door, possibly with a 
borrowed machine, and wants to know how to fix his network, w/o even 
posting the linux version and release he borrowed the install cd's for.

He is NOT going to be familiar with the common vernacular we often use, 
and may well ask a question that is stupid.

Are we to give him the RTFM brushoff, or actually try to educate this 
individual with a non-condescending tone to our reply's.?

I vote for the latter unless the OP refuses to take the directions 
offered, repeatedly.  Only then should any of us offer to discuss his 
family tree.

> > If you don't have the time (or the knowledge) to answer, just don't.
> > If you have (and you often have, and your contribs here are really
> > good), do.
>
> The point is the guy should read manuals, and as he later mentioned he
> would try rather BSD if he had to read manuals. This attitude can not
> be tolerated. We all are busy and at least I do not want to do
> someones homework especially if he/she is being lazy, especially if
> these are basics, described and commented on tausand places in the
> net.
>
> > But please, don't pour sarcasm on people who (pretty obviously)
> > aren't ill-intentioned, just struggling with a daunting cultural
> > chasm. Pretty please.
>
> Agree, I hope Long Wind got my message anyway. I also spent hours of
> reading documentation. There wasn't the internet as it is today, so I
> expect when someone asks something to show at least the attitude of
> willing to learn and not complaining why this and why that is
> difficult. It is difficult if you don't understand or know. Knowledge
> and understanding make things easy.
>
> And regarding cultural differencies, I spent a lot of time learning
> english and my mother language is far from english, well it is still
> indoeuropean, but it cost a lot of time and money to bring it at the
> level it is now, so again, respect the others, their time and their
> knowledge should be a must and I could not read anything of this in
> Long Wings question. Some poor guy who discovered Linux, wants to do
> something .... well ... some people may be better use windows or no
> computer at all.
>
> > (And tell *me* whenever I do the same: I'm far from perfect in that
> > department and can use some feedback too :)
>
> I admit that I am not that tolerant, but I did not expect you to
> comment on my post.
>
> regards


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#185216

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 03:48:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2017 10:20:01 deloptes wrote:
> 
> > tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult. [...]

> > I wasn't unfriendly at all. The point is you can read from the
> > question at what level this OP is. So as Ric Moore said, mutual
> > respect is expected, in my world you get what you asked for. Stupid
> > questions get stupid answers etc.

It came over a bit... rough. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

> What if, in addition to jumping into the English speaking world, a high 
> hurdle itself, and has just opened the networking door, possibly with a 
> borrowed machine, and wants to know how to fix his network, w/o even 
> posting the linux version and release he borrowed the install cd's for.
> 
> He is NOT going to be familiar with the common vernacular we often use, 
> and may well ask a question that is stupid.

Thanks, Gene. You brought over my point better than I could have :-)

Chers
- -- tomás
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#185217

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:01:26PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Gene. You brought over my point better than I could have
> 
> Yes indeed, I admit I learn from you each day

Me too :-)

Cheers
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#185219

On Monday 14 August 2017 16:08:44 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:01:26PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> > tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > Thanks, Gene. You brought over my point better than I could have
> >
> > Yes indeed, I admit I learn from you each day
>
> Me too :-)
>
> Cheers
> -- tomás

Thanks for the flowers, both of you.

Now if I could just remember to water the things. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#185218

tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Thanks, Gene. You brought over my point better than I could have

Yes indeed, I admit I learn from you each day

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#185221

On Mon 14 Aug 2017 at 15:48:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Monday 14 August 2017 10:20:01 deloptes wrote:
> 
> > tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult. From
> > > what can be seen here, Long Wind has crossed a large cultural gap
> > > to be here. Reading docs is sometimes difficult, even for me (and
> > > I was born in a language which is most probably neighbour to yours
> > > and neighbour to our current common English).
> >
> > I wasn't unfriendly at all. The point is you can read from the
> > question at what level this OP is. So as Ric Moore said, mutual
> > respect is expected, in my world you get what you asked for. Stupid
> > questions get stupid answers etc.
> >
> What if, in addition to jumping into the English speaking world, a high 
> hurdle itself, and has just opened the networking door, possibly with a 
> borrowed machine, and wants to know how to fix his network, w/o even 
> posting the linux version and release he borrowed the install cd's for.

You set up your imagined assumptions on which to base your argument:

 jumping into the English speaking world
 opening a networking door
 a possible borrowed machine

> He is NOT going to be familiar with the common vernacular we often use, 
> and may well ask a question that is stupid.

 Two other unjustified, non-evidence based assertions.

> Are we to give him the RTFM brushoff, or actually try to educate this 
> individual with a non-condescending tone to our reply's.?

Having set up your scenario (based on pure imagination) you proceed to ask
two rhetorical questions. Are you a professional politician by trade?
 
> I vote for the latter unless the OP refuses to take the directions 
> offered, repeatedly.  Only then should any of us offer to discuss his 
> family tree.

Then you answer your own questions. (But cover yourself in case there is
a comeback). Yes, you are evidently a professional politician.

-- 
Brian.

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#185229

On Monday 14 August 2017 16:42:49 Brian wrote:

> On Mon 14 Aug 2017 at 15:48:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 14 August 2017 10:20:01 deloptes wrote:
> > > tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > C'm on. Be friendlier. Communication is sometimes difficult.
> > > > From what can be seen here, Long Wind has crossed a large
> > > > cultural gap to be here. Reading docs is sometimes difficult,
> > > > even for me (and I was born in a language which is most probably
> > > > neighbour to yours and neighbour to our current common English).
> > >
> > > I wasn't unfriendly at all. The point is you can read from the
> > > question at what level this OP is. So as Ric Moore said, mutual
> > > respect is expected, in my world you get what you asked for.
> > > Stupid questions get stupid answers etc.
> >
> > What if, in addition to jumping into the English speaking world, a
> > high hurdle itself, and has just opened the networking door,
> > possibly with a borrowed machine, and wants to know how to fix his
> > network, w/o even posting the linux version and release he borrowed
> > the install cd's for.
>
> You set up your imagined assumptions on which to base your argument:
>
>  jumping into the English speaking world
>  opening a networking door
>  a possible borrowed machine
>
Absolutely Brian.

> > He is NOT going to be familiar with the common vernacular we often
> > use, and may well ask a question that is stupid.
>
>  Two other unjustified, non-evidence based assertions.

Oh, we're counting now?  Who's the troll?
>
> > Are we to give him the RTFM brushoff, or actually try to educate
> > this individual with a non-condescending tone to our reply's.?
>
> Having set up your scenario (based on pure imagination) you proceed to
> ask two rhetorical questions. Are you a professional politician by
> trade?

Retired Television CE, and a C.E.T. & what was once a 1st Phone.

> > I vote for the latter unless the OP refuses to take the directions
> > offered, repeatedly.  Only then should any of us offer to discuss
> > his family tree.
>
> Then you answer your own questions. (But cover yourself in case there
> is a comeback). Yes, you are evidently a professional politician.

Does thinking about running for the board of education count?

Those thoughts were tossed when I attended a board meeting and found out 
just how tightly the local board's hands were tied by all the federal 
rules. In terms of the education our children get today, every federal 
action serves mainly to see to it that the unfortunate child with Downs 
can actually pass the tests and graduate.

I experienced the other side of that coin in the late 1940's when they 
discontinued teaching phonics.  My school was late doing that.

Fortunately I had a mother who, if I asked a question she did not know 
the answer to, did know where the library was.  She was also the only 
girl in the class on aviation technology at Des Moines Technical High 
School in 1929. 

So I quit school over an allergy issue in '49 and started fixing these 
newfangled things called tv's for real money.  Had my name drawn at the 
lopcal draft board in the middle of Korea, but made a 98 on the AFQT.  
That got me 4F'd.  But the next best score on that test that day, out of 
130+ other kids, was 36, obviously they wanted somebody who would take 
orders. and I wasn't that somebody.  Switched to tv engineering in the 
early 60's, after passing the 1st Phone w/o cracking a book.  Saw a 
notice in the Norfolk ME paper where I was then working, they were going 
to test for the C.E.T. a day or so later at the community college, so I 
walked in, laid my $20 on the table and took it. Missed 2 of 125 
multiple choice questions, which combined with my many years of 
experience, put the Journeyman version of that card in my billfold. 
Thats VERY impressive to potential employers, never failed to get me the 
job...

I finished out my working time in the middle of 2002 after nearly 19 
years in the CE's chair at WDTV-5, the local CBS affiliate.  Since then 
I've been building CNC machinery, and harassing these mailing lists on 
occasion.  Linux user since 1998.

You were saying?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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#185230

Brian wrote:

> Then you answer your own questions. (But cover yourself in case there is
> a comeback). Yes, you are evidently a professional politician.

It's just Gene :)

Regarding the assumption, which I don't think match reality in this
particular case, I agree with the will to educate and at the most, the
believe it will work, so if there is a reason to be polite or just ignore
such queries I guess it would be the respect to people, like you, Gene and
tomás

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#185264

On Monday, August 14, 2017 04:42:49 PM Brian wrote:
> Then you answer your own questions. (But cover yourself in case there is
> a comeback). Yes, you are evidently a professional politician.

Ahh, ok, reading more carefully you say "professional" politician.

Almost everybody of a certain age / maturity learns to become something of a 
politician.  (My favorite definition of politics is something like "the art (or 
science?) of getting along with other people".)

If you are any kind of professional, you probably need to be (and are), to 
some extent, a professional politician.

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