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| Started by | Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-08-14 11:50 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-08-19 10:40 +0200 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 144 — 27 participants |
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no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:50 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-14 13:00 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 13:10 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-14 13:40 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 13:50 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-14 18:10 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 23:20 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-08-14 14:00 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 15:00 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-14 15:30 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-08-14 15:50 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:00 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-08-14 16:10 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:30 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-08-14 16:40 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:30 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 16:30 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-08-14 17:30 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 18:20 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 19:10 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-19 12:10 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-19 22:10 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-08-19 23:00 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:30 +0200
No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-15 12:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-15 14:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-15 15:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-15 15:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-15 16:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-08-15 16:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-15 16:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-15 19:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 20:30 +0200
Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Clive Standbridge <list-user@tgstandbridges.plus.com> - 2017-08-16 10:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-16 11:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-08-16 12:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-16 14:30 +0200
Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Clive Standbridge <list-user@tgstandbridges.plus.com> - 2017-08-16 16:20 +0200
Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-08-16 16:40 +0200
Re: Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Clive Standbridge <list-user@tgstandbridges.plus.com> - 2017-08-16 17:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 20:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 21:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 22:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-08-15 22:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-16 04:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200
No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-28 09:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-15 15:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 16:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-15 17:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 19:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 20:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 21:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 21:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-16 04:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-15 20:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 21:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-08-15 16:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 16:40 +0200
No ifconfig Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-19 10:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-08-19 14:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 17:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-19 10:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2017-08-19 11:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 15:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-19 15:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-08-19 16:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-08-19 16:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-08-19 16:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-19 17:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 20:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-19 21:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 21:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-19 21:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 21:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 02:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-08-19 16:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org> - 2017-08-20 12:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-08-21 15:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 16:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-19 19:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-20 14:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-08-20 14:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-20 17:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-21 05:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-21 06:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2017-08-19 23:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 02:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-08-20 14:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-21 07:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-21 15:00 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-21 15:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-21 17:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-21 18:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-21 19:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-21 19:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-21 19:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-21 20:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-21 21:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-22 17:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-08-22 17:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2017-08-21 17:30 +0200
No ifconfig Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-28 10:40 +0200
No ifconfig Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-28 10:20 +0200
Re: No ifconfig Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-08-21 17:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 19:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 20:10 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 20:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 21:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-16 03:40 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 21:30 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-16 03:50 +0200
Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-08-16 06:40 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-14 21:30 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (was: no /etc/inittab) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-08-14 22:40 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (was: no /etc/inittab) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-14 23:20 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-08-14 23:50 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-08-15 16:10 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-15 19:20 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-15 19:40 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-08-16 14:30 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-16 16:20 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-28 11:20 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 12:50 +0200
obsolete wiki (was: no /etc/inittab) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-28 08:20 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (was: no /etc/inittab) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-15 00:20 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-19 11:50 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 15:10 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 16:00 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-19 20:00 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-19 21:10 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-08-19 21:30 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-08-21 15:10 +0200
Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-08-21 16:30 +0200
obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-28 09:00 +0200
Re: no /etc/inittab Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-08-19 10:40 +0200
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| From | Clive Standbridge <list-user@tgstandbridges.plus.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-08-16 16:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <uf7kR-87Z-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185338 |
> The "declare", OTOH, is pretty Bashist. But it can be replaced by > a simple "echo": True. It was just a convenient way of showing that the variable hadn't absorbed any white space. Besides, I was just picking up the "Bash can't do it" gauntlet. I'd often prefer awk in such a situation (like Erik and Greg have mentioned). -- Cheers, Clive
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 16:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <uf7Ee-8eC-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185353 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 02:56:01PM +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote: > > > The "declare", OTOH, is pretty Bashist. But it can be replaced by > > a simple "echo": > > True. It was just a convenient way of showing that the variable hadn't > absorbed any white space. Understood. Please, don't get me wrong -- I'm not an anti-Bashist, by far (on the contrary, I'm a fan of Bash and some of its features, actually). Much less was I trying to criticize you, who provided that nifty script in the first place. Just trying to raise awareness about (the few) shell variation idiosyncracies I know about, to help making people's lives easier. > Besides, I was just picking up the "Bash can't do it" gauntlet. I'd > often prefer awk in such a situation (like Erik and Greg have > mentioned). Uh, oh. Bash can do quite a lot of things :-) Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlmUWSMACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbkGgCfZTPk07MqjQza0MCbS4KnWojp VokAnjyBNWqZ0Jx5DSYwxK69vm5XRfhG =juko -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Clive Standbridge <list-user@tgstandbridges.plus.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 17:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Re: Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <uf8gW-gn-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185355 |
> Much less was I trying to criticize you, Oh I didn't think you were :-) > Just trying to raise awareness about (the few) shell variation idiosyncracies > I know about, to help making people's lives easier. Sounds good to me. -- Cheers, Clive
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| From | Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 18:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueN2N-3DK-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185256 |
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> wooledg:~$ netstat -in
> Kernel Interface table
> Iface MTU RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
> eth0 1500 8254258 0 0 0 7682795 0 0 0 BMRU
> lo 65536 579959 0 0 0 579959 0 0 0 LRU
you have hte same information with:
==> ip -s link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
2128816 7293 0 0 0 0
TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
2128816 7293 0 0 0 0
2: enp0s31f6: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 2c:4d:54:d0:58:06 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
323815150 423300 0 4 0 55708
TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
41867187 302742 0 0 0 0
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueO8y-4lv-27@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185280 |
On Tuesday 15 August 2017 12:38:49 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > wooledg:~$ netstat -in
> > Kernel Interface table
> > Iface MTU RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP
> > TX-OVR Flg eth0 1500 8254258 0 0 0 7682795
> > 0 0 0 BMRU lo 65536 579959 0 0 0
> > 579959 0 0 0 LRU
>
> you have hte same information with:
> ==> ip -s link
> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
> mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd
> 00:00:00:00:00:00
> RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
> 2128816 7293 0 0 0 0
> TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
> 2128816 7293 0 0 0 0
> 2: enp0s31f6: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc
> pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether
> 2c:4d:54:d0:58:06 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
> 323815150 423300 0 4 0 55708
> TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
> 41867187 302742 0 0 0 0
Thats a step towards understandable output, but how to deal with the
stuff it shows that isn't "up". That doubles the size of the output on
my pi running jessie:
pi@picncsheldon:~ $ ip -s link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode
DEFAULT group default qlen 1
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
59379736 989318 0 0 0 0
TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
59379736 989318 0 0 0 0
2: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group
default qlen 1
link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0
RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
0 0 0 0 0 0
TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
0 0 0 0 0 0
3: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether b8:27:eb:d3:47:2d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
224779355 3598076 0 0 0 0
TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
1223076242 12292111 0 0 0 0
4: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode
DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether b8:27:eb:86:12:78 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
RX: bytes packets errors dropped overrun mcast
0 0 0 0 0 0
TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns
0 0 0 0 0 0
While STILL not giving me the local ipv4 addresses and netmasks of those
interfaces. I have disabled the radio as I've a neighbor that will use
about 100Gb of my 300Gb monthly if the radios are enabled. But what the
heck is sit0?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueO8z-4lv-31@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185294 |
On Tuesday 15 August 2017 13:46:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 01:41:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > While STILL not giving me the local ipv4 addresses and netmasks of > > those interfaces. > > If you want the IPv4 address, netmask, and transfer stats, try: > > ip -s addr > > Note that the netmask is shown in CIDR notation (e.g. /23) rather > than dotted quad notation (e.g. 255.255.254.0). > > If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want. An ifconfig style output by default. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 20:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueOBB-4KI-31@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185295 |
On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:49:23 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 13:46:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 01:41:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > While STILL not giving me the local ipv4 addresses and netmasks of > > > those interfaces. > > > > If you want the IPv4 address, netmask, and transfer stats, try: > > > > ip -s addr > > > > Note that the netmask is shown in CIDR notation (e.g. /23) rather > > than dotted quad notation (e.g. 255.255.254.0). > > > > If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want. > > An ifconfig style output by default. Then why not use ifconfig? Cheers, David.
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 21:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <uePei-4Zy-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185299 |
On Tuesday 15 August 2017 14:16:15 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:49:23 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 13:46:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 01:41:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > While STILL not giving me the local ipv4 addresses and netmasks > > > > of those interfaces. > > > > > > If you want the IPv4 address, netmask, and transfer stats, try: > > > > > > ip -s addr > > > > > > Note that the netmask is shown in CIDR notation (e.g. /23) rather > > > than dotted quad notation (e.g. 255.255.254.0). > > > > > > If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want. > > > > An ifconfig style output by default. > > Then why not use ifconfig? Of course I do, since ipv4 is the local method. > > Cheers, > David. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 22:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueQal-5z2-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185305 |
On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 14:51:48 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 14:16:15 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:49:23 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 13:46:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 01:41:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > While STILL not giving me the local ipv4 addresses and netmasks > > > > > of those interfaces. > > > > > > > > If you want the IPv4 address, netmask, and transfer stats, try: > > > > > > > > ip -s addr > > > > > > > > Note that the netmask is shown in CIDR notation (e.g. /23) rather > > > > than dotted quad notation (e.g. 255.255.254.0). > > > > > > > > If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want. > > > > > > An ifconfig style output by default. > > > > Then why not use ifconfig? > > Of course I do, since ipv4 is the local method. Style over content is the way to go. -- Brian.
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 22:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueQk1-5RL-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185305 |
On 2017-08-15, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote: >> > > >> > > If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want. >> > >> > An ifconfig style output by default. >> >> Then why not use ifconfig? > > Of course I do, since ipv4 is the local method. >> But it's deprecated and is no longer provided in the b... Boys, I think we've come full circle and have dutifully arrived exactly where we started. As I bought a round-trip ticket I ain't complaining. Say good night, Gracie. -- "Until the Lion learns to write, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the Hunter." — African proverb
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 04:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueVMK-F3-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185315 |
On Tuesday 15 August 2017 16:01:25 Curt wrote: > On 2017-08-15, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote: > >> > > If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want. > >> > > >> > An ifconfig style output by default. > >> > >> Then why not use ifconfig? > > > > Of course I do, since ipv4 is the local method. > > But it's deprecated and is no longer provided in the b... > > Boys, I think we've come full circle and have dutifully arrived > exactly where we started. > > As I bought a round-trip ticket I ain't complaining. > > Say good night, Gracie. Good night, George. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 19:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig |
| Message-ID | <ueO8z-4lv-33@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185294 |
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 01:41:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > While STILL not giving me the local ipv4 addresses and netmasks of those > interfaces. If you want the IPv4 address, netmask, and transfer stats, try: ip -s addr Note that the netmask is shown in CIDR notation (e.g. /23) rather than dotted quad notation (e.g. 255.255.254.0). If this still isn't what you want, tell us what you *do* want.
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| From | Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> |
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| Date | 2017-08-28 09:40 +0200 |
| Subject | No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ujmOm-2GD-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185256 |
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Greg Wooledge:
>
>> wooledg:~$ ip link
>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1
>> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>> link/ether a0:8c:fd:c3:89:e0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> Parsing the interface names out of THAT is significantly harder.
>
In support of my earlier point that some /other/ people /did/ make
modern |ifconfig| usable in such ways:
> JdeBP % ifconfig -l
> bge0 bge1 lo0 tun0
> JdeBP %
Here's something from a script of mine:
> list_available_network_interfaces() {
> case "`uname`" in
> Linux) /bin/ls /sys/class/net ;;
> *) ifconfig -l ;;
> esac
> }
(Note that this is as loose as it is because I'm only targetting
Linux-based operating systems and the BSDs so far here. Also note that
this breaks on OpenBSD which does not have the |-l| option to
|ifconfig|. Fixing that is on the to-do list.)
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| From | Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 15:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ueK4X-1Pe-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185255 |
On 15.08.17 15:03, Dejan Jocic wrote: > And what exactly do you miss in ifconfig and net-tools package, that you > can not do with ip, which is part of iproute2 package that comes as part > of base system? Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. If the package builders are more familiar with ip, then perhaps tradition goes out the window. Not a problem. I have installed net-tools. Erik
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| From | Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 16:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ueLkm-2ya-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185257 |
On 15-08-17, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 15.08.17 15:03, Dejan Jocic wrote: > > And what exactly do you miss in ifconfig and net-tools package, that you > > can not do with ip, which is part of iproute2 package that comes as part > > of base system? > > Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. If the package > builders are more familiar with ip, then perhaps tradition goes out the > window. Not a problem. I have installed net-tools. > > Erik > I can understand that very well, even with much less years of familiarity. But it moves forward, for good or worse. Not first familiar tool that will vanish, nor last. May we live to see many more. I know that I've thought something like "you will pry ifconfig out of my cold dead heands" first time I've used ip. But, time passed and ip almost become familiar tool.
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| From | Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 17:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ueLDI-2TR-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185257 |
L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. You said it: the only superiority of ifconfig over iproute2 is tradition and familiarity of long-time users. On the other hand, ifconfig is technically inferior on most if not all points. I hope you realize that traditions and familiarity of old geezers can only go so far to justify the evolution or non-evolution of a system. Otherwise, we still would have ed in the base system. Regards, -- Nicolas George
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 19:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ueNPb-4e6-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185269 |
On Tuesday 15 August 2017 10:48:12 Nicolas George wrote: > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > > Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. > > You said it: the only superiority of ifconfig over iproute2 is > tradition and familiarity of long-time users. On the other hand, > ifconfig is technically inferior on most if not all points. > > I hope you realize that traditions and familiarity of old geezers can > only go so far to justify the evolution or non-evolution of a system. > Otherwise, we still would have ed in the base system. > > Regards, Nicolas: The nearest ipv6 address to me is likely 150 miles north, in Pittsburgh PA. Its all ipv4 here in WV AFAIK. However, so far I have not been made aware of a traceroute like utility that can tell me where any ipv6 blockage might exist, so I haven't a clue how far a dns query might get. I don't have it setup here that I know of, and there's little or no documentation on how to do it available to us mear mortals. So here at least, anybody that knows how to cope with it when it does become a fact of life, can likely leverage some sheckles out of that knowledge. For instance, after perusing the manpage for traceroute, my ISP is shentel.net, but gene@GO704:/etc$ traceroute -6 shentel.net shentel.net: Name or service not known Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg `shentel.net' on position 1 (argc 2) But where does the failure occur? Someplace in the chain To or From their dns server(s), which probably encompasses at least a dozen hops to get to the server to query them. And uncommenting the ipv6 related lines in the hosts file makes no difference. I didn't think it would because /etc/network/interfaces has no ipv6 setup in it. So for starters, what would I add to the interfaces file to enable that since I've no clue what to put in it for an ipv6 address. With reference to my hosts file based home network with about 20 names in the /etc/hosts file, please give me/us a cli command that shows how ifconfig gets it wrong, and ip gets it right in an ipv4 environment. I don't think it prudent to just pick some numbers out of "that" place. ;-) Cheers Nicolas, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 20:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ueOBz-4KI-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185290 |
On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:24:56 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 10:48:12 Nicolas George wrote: > > > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > > > Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. > > > > You said it: the only superiority of ifconfig over iproute2 is > > tradition and familiarity of long-time users. On the other hand, > > ifconfig is technically inferior on most if not all points. > > > > I hope you realize that traditions and familiarity of old geezers can > > only go so far to justify the evolution or non-evolution of a system. > > Otherwise, we still would have ed in the base system. > > > > Regards, > > Nicolas: The nearest ipv6 address to me is likely 150 miles north, in > Pittsburgh PA. Its all ipv4 here in WV AFAIK. Odd, the nearest to me is underneath the table. I use 6 a lot, as a cat5 cable is much faster than two legs of weak wireless to the router and back. And it requires no configuration—it's just there. Cheers, David.
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 21:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <uePeh-4Zy-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185298 |
On Tuesday 15 August 2017 14:19:37 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:24:56 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 10:48:12 Nicolas George wrote: > > > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > > > > Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. > > > > > > You said it: the only superiority of ifconfig over iproute2 is > > > tradition and familiarity of long-time users. On the other hand, > > > ifconfig is technically inferior on most if not all points. > > > > > > I hope you realize that traditions and familiarity of old geezers > > > can only go so far to justify the evolution or non-evolution of a > > > system. Otherwise, we still would have ed in the base system. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nicolas: The nearest ipv6 address to me is likely 150 miles north, > > in Pittsburgh PA. Its all ipv4 here in WV AFAIK. > > Odd, the nearest to me is underneath the table. I use 6 a lot, > as a cat5 cable is much faster than two legs of weak wireless > to the router and back. And it requires no configuration—it's > just there. > > Cheers, > David. Thats a bridge I'll cross, if it gets here before I miss morning roll call. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 21:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab] |
| Message-ID | <ueQ0F-5vJ-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #185304 |
On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 14:53:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 14:19:37 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:24:56 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 10:48:12 Nicolas George wrote: > > > > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > > > > > Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. > > > > > > > > You said it: the only superiority of ifconfig over iproute2 is > > > > tradition and familiarity of long-time users. On the other hand, > > > > ifconfig is technically inferior on most if not all points. > > > > > > > > I hope you realize that traditions and familiarity of old geezers > > > > can only go so far to justify the evolution or non-evolution of a > > > > system. Otherwise, we still would have ed in the base system. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nicolas: The nearest ipv6 address to me is likely 150 miles north, > > > in Pittsburgh PA. Its all ipv4 here in WV AFAIK. > > > > Odd, the nearest to me is underneath the table. I use 6 a lot, > > as a cat5 cable is much faster than two legs of weak wireless > > to the router and back. And it requires no configuration—it's > > just there. > > > > Cheers, > > David. > > Thats a bridge I'll cross, if it gets here before I miss morning roll > call. :) If you do, you'll be on a charge. :) -- Brian.
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