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  Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-10 02:20 +0200
    Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2017-08-10 07:10 +0200
      Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-10 07:50 +0200
        Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2017-08-10 16:00 +0200
          Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-12 06:50 +0200
    Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken Ralph Katz <ralph@ralphkatz.com> - 2017-08-10 21:00 +0200
      Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-12 06:50 +0200
    Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-08-11 12:50 +0200
      Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken "John Ratliff" <jratliff@bluemarble.net> - 2017-08-11 14:00 +0200
        Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-12 07:20 +0200
      Re: Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-08-12 06:40 +0200

#184960 — Debian 9.1 amd64 Xfce panel clock broken

debian-user:

I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 
GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of 
debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as of now:

2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~
# cat /etc/debian_version
9.1

2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~
# uname -a
Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 
(2017-08-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux

2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~
# dpkg-query --show xfce4
xfce4	4.12.3


I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item.  Unfortunately, it is 
broken:

- If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel Preferences...", 
the "Panel" dialog appears.

- Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of panel items.

- If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the currently 
selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears.

- I then configure Clock as follows:

     Time Settings
       Timezone		PST8PDT
     Appearance
       Layout		Digital
       Tooltip format	Wednesday 09 August 2017
     Clock Options
       Format		05:04:55 PM

Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the 
current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. 
This is what I want.

- But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel 
-- e.g. Clock breaks.


Looking in /var/log and dmesg, I don't see any clues.


Any suggestions for figuring out why Clock is broken and how to fix it?


David

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#184969

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:13:55 -0700
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

>debian-user:
>
>I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400 CPU, 2 
>GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of 
>debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as of now:
>
>2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~
># cat /etc/debian_version
>9.1
>
>2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~
># uname -a
>Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 
>(2017-08-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
>2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~
># dpkg-query --show xfce4
>xfce4	4.12.3
>
>
>I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item.  Unfortunately, it is 
>broken:
>
>- If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel Preferences...", 
>the "Panel" dialog appears.
>
>- Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of panel items.
>
>- If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the currently 
>selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears.
>
>- I then configure Clock as follows:
>
>     Time Settings
>       Timezone		PST8PDT
>     Appearance
>       Layout		Digital
>       Tooltip format	Wednesday 09 August 2017
>     Clock Options
>       Format		05:04:55 PM
>
>Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the 
>current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. 
>This is what I want.
>
>- But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel 
>-- e.g. Clock breaks.
>
>
>Looking in /var/log and dmesg, I don't see any clues.
>
>
>Any suggestions for figuring out why Clock is broken and how to fix it?
>
>
>David
>

It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock
is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing
in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still
disappears.

- -- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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#184972

On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> 
> It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock
> is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing
> in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still
> disappears.

Clock is neither the first nor last item in the panel.


Clock works fine on Xfce on Debian Wheezy, Debian Jesse, FreeBSD 11.0, 
and possibly others.


I'm looking for an error message from Xfce panel, or a way to obtain 
error/ debug messages.


David

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#184990

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:48:37 -0700
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

>On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>> 
>> It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock
>> is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing
>> in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still
>> disappears.  
>
>Clock is neither the first nor last item in the panel.
>
>
>Clock works fine on Xfce on Debian Wheezy, Debian Jesse, FreeBSD 11.0, 
>and possibly others.
>
>
>I'm looking for an error message from Xfce panel, or a way to obtain 
>error/ debug messages.
>
>
>David
>

The only way I know to do that, if nothing shows up in
~/.xsession-errors, is to run debug.

https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/debugging


- -- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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#185082

On 08/10/17 06:52, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
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> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:48:37 -0700
> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 08/09/17 21:47, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>>>
>>> It almost sounds like the panel is too long for the monitor. The clock
>>> is disappearing off the end of the panel. Is the clock the last thing
>>> in panel? Try moving it to the other of the panel, and see if it still
>>> disappears.
>>
>> Clock is neither the first nor last item in the panel.
>>
>>
>> Clock works fine on Xfce on Debian Wheezy, Debian Jesse, FreeBSD 11.0,
>> and possibly others.
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for an error message from Xfce panel, or a way to obtain
>> error/ debug messages.
>>
>>
>> David
>>
> 
> The only way I know to do that, if nothing shows up in
> ~/.xsession-errors, 


2017-08-11 21:46:11 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~
$ grep -i clock .xsession-errors

2017-08-11 21:46:15 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~
$ grep -i panel .xsession-errors

2017-08-11 21:46:23 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~
$ grep -i xfce .xsession-errors
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting 
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/xfce4:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
xfce4-session-Message: SSH authentication agent is already running
(xfce4-session:5464): xfce4-session-WARNING **: gpg-agent returned no 
PID in the variables
(xfce4-terminal:5560): Gtk-WARNING **: Allocating size to GtkScrollbar 
0x55b9781683d0 without calling gtk_widget_get_preferred_width/height(). 
How does the code know the size to allocate?
(xfce4-terminal:5560): Gtk-WARNING **: Allocating size to GtkScrollbar 
0x55b9781687d0 without calling gtk_widget_get_preferred_width/height(). 
How does the code know the size to allocate?


> is to run debug.
> 
> https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/debugging


Maybe later.


David

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#185009

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On 08/09/2017 06:13 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> debian-user:
> 
> I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400
> CPU, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of 
> debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as
> of now:
> 
> 2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ # cat /etc/debian_version 
> 9.1
> 
> 2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~ # uname -a Linux tinkywinky
> 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) x86_64
> GNU/Linux
> 
> 2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~ # dpkg-query --show xfce4 
> xfce4    4.12.3
> 
> 
> I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item.  Unfortunately, it
> is broken:
> 
> - If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel
> Preferences...", the "Panel" dialog appears.
> 
> - Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of
> panel items.
> 
> - If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the
> currently selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears.
> 
> - I then configure Clock as follows:
> 
> Time Settings Timezone        PST8PDT Appearance Layout
> Digital Tooltip format    Wednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options 
> Format        05:04:55 PM
> 
> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close",
> the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce
> panel. This is what I want.
> 
> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the
> panel -- e.g. Clock breaks.
> 
> 
> Looking in /var/log and dmesg, I don't see any clues.
> 
> 
> Any suggestions for figuring out why Clock is broken and how to fix
> it?
> 
> 
> David

Mine works, but settings look different.  I made no changes to clock
properties, yet my field Timezone is blank.  Maybe try that?

There is an .xfce4-session.verbose-log , though I don't know what
you'll find.

Good luck!

Ralph


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#185083

On 08/10/17 11:51, Ralph Katz wrote:
> 
> On 08/09/2017 06:13 PM, David Christensen wrote:
>> debian-user:
>>
>> I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop with an Intel Core Duo T7400
>> CPU, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB SSD, and a fresh install of
>> debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, with all updates and upgrades as
>> of now:
>>
>> 2017-08-09 16:59:07 root@tinkywinky ~ # cat /etc/debian_version
>> 9.1
>>
>> 2017-08-09 16:59:18 root@tinkywinky ~ # uname -a Linux tinkywinky
>> 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06) x86_64
>> GNU/Linux
>>
>> 2017-08-09 16:59:22 root@tinkywinky ~ # dpkg-query --show xfce4
>> xfce4    4.12.3
>>
>>
>> I would like to use the Xfce panel "clock" item.  Unfortunately, it
>> is broken:
>>
>> - If I right-click on the Xfce panel and choose "Panel
>> Preferences...", the "Panel" dialog appears.
>>
>> - Selecting Panel -> Items tab, "Clock" appears in the list of
>> panel items.
>>
>> - If I select Panel -> Items -> Clock and click the "Edit the
>> currently selected item" button, the "Clock" dialog appears.
>>
>> - I then configure Clock as follows:
>>
>> Time Settings Timezone        PST8PDT Appearance Layout
>> Digital Tooltip format    Wednesday 09 August 2017 Clock Options
>> Format        05:04:55 PM
>>
>> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close",
>> the current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce
>> panel. This is what I want.
>>
>> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the
>> panel -- e.g. Clock breaks.
> 
> Mine works, but settings look different.  I made no changes to clock
> properties, 

When I open Panel Preferences -> Items -> Clock -> Edit the currently 
selected item, the defaults are:

   Time Settings
     Timezone            <blank>
   Appearance
     Layout              Digital
     Tooltip format      Custom Format
   Clock Options
     Format              Custom Format


> yet my field Timezone is blank.  Maybe try that?

Failure is the same.


> There is an .xfce4-session.verbose-log , though I don't know what
> you'll find.

Nothing:

2017-08-11 21:43:27 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~
$ find . -name .xfce4-session.verbose-log
./.xfce4-session.verbose-log

2017-08-11 21:43:34 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~
$ grep -i clock .xfce4-session.verbose-log



David

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#185030

On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>     Time Settings
>       Timezone		PST8PDT
>     Appearance
>       Layout		Digital
>       Tooltip format	Wednesday 09 August 2017
>     Clock Options
>       Format		05:04:55 PM
> 
> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the
> current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is
> what I want.
> 
> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel --
> e.g. Clock breaks.

Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank?

If it's going blank, I suggest you look at color settings for
the clock -- you may have accidentally selected 100% transparent
text, or the same color as the background.

-dsr-

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#185036

<quote who="Dan Ritter">
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>>     Time Settings
>>       Timezone		PST8PDT
>>     Appearance
>>       Layout		Digital
>>       Tooltip format	Wednesday 09 August 2017
>>     Clock Options
>>       Format		05:04:55 PM
>>
>> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the
>> current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This
>> is
>> what I want.
>>
>> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel
>> --
>> e.g. Clock breaks.
>
> Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank?
>
> If it's going blank, I suggest you look at color settings for
> the clock -- you may have accidentally selected 100% transparent
> text, or the same color as the background.
>
> -dsr-
>
>

This is a known bug in the clock applet for Xfce. Last I checked the bug
tracker upstream, it hadn't been fixed. I have the same issue. You can't
adjust the clock settings without it erasing your format string and making
the clock blank. My workaround is to use the orange date/time panel item
instead.

--John

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#185084

On 08/11/17 04:57, John Ratliff wrote:
> <quote who="Dan Ritter">
>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>>>      Time Settings
>>>        Timezone		PST8PDT
>>>      Appearance
>>>        Layout		Digital
>>>        Tooltip format	Wednesday 09 August 2017
>>>      Clock Options
>>>        Format		05:04:55 PM
>>>
>>> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the
>>> current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This
>>> is
>>> what I want.
>>>
>>> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel
>>> --
>>> e.g. Clock breaks.
>>
>> Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank?
>>
>> If it's going blank, I suggest you look at color settings for
>> the clock -- you may have accidentally selected 100% transparent
>> text, or the same color as the background.
>>
>> -dsr-
>>
>>
> 
> This is a known bug in the clock applet for Xfce. Last I checked the bug
> tracker upstream, it hadn't been fixed. I have the same issue. You can't
> adjust the clock settings without it erasing your format string and making
> the clock blank. 

https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11527


> My workaround is to use the orange date/time panel item
> instead.

I thought about that -- might as well until the Xfce clock gets fixed.


David

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#185081

On 08/11/17 03:39, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:13:55PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>>      Time Settings
>>        Timezone		PST8PDT
>>      Appearance
>>        Layout		Digital
>>        Tooltip format	Wednesday 09 August 2017
>>      Clock Options
>>        Format		05:04:55 PM
>>
>> Once I have made the above settings, but before choosing "Close", the
>> current time is displayed at the proper location in the Xfce panel. This is
>> what I want.
>>
>> - But when I click "Close", the current time disappears from the panel --
>> e.g. Clock breaks.
> 
> Does the space for the clock disappear, or go blank?

The clock disappears (all the other items on the panel rearrange to fill 
the void).


David

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