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estamated number of Linux users?

Started byKaren Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
First post2017-10-27 03:50 +0200
Last post2017-10-27 05:50 +0200
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  estamated number of Linux users? Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2017-10-27 03:50 +0200
    Re: estamated number of Linux users? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 04:20 +0200
      Re: estamated number of Linux users? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-10-27 05:30 +0200
        Re: estamated number of Linux users? Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> - 2017-10-27 13:00 +0200
        Re: estamated number of Linux users? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 18:30 +0200
          Re: estamated number of Linux users? x9p <debian@x9p.org> - 2017-10-27 19:00 +0200
          Re: estamated number of Linux users? Phil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 20:10 +0200
            Re: estamated number of Linux users? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-10-27 20:40 +0200
              Re: estamated number of Linux users? Phil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 22:10 +0200
                Re: estamated number of Linux users? Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 22:10 +0200
              Re: estamated number of Linux users? Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-10-27 23:40 +0200
            Re: estamated number of Linux users? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-10-27 20:50 +0200
              Re: estamated number of Linux users? x9p <debian@x9p.org> - 2017-10-27 21:00 +0200
    Re: estamated number of Linux users? Anthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net> - 2017-10-27 05:50 +0200

#188368 — estamated number of Linux users?

FromKaren Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
Date2017-10-27 03:50 +0200
Subjectestamated number of Linux users?
Message-ID<uF1Wx-4TG-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi all,
Any place where this number exists?  I would include those companies and 
web professionals, using Linux servers as apart of their craft?
Thanks,
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

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#188371

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-27 04:20 +0200
Message-ID<uF2pz-5qn-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188368
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:38:15 -0400 (EDT)
Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Any place where this number exists?  I would include those companies and 
> web professionals, using Linux servers as apart of their craft?

https://www.linuxcounter.net/

I don't know how meaningful its data are.

> Thanks,
> Karen

Celejar

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#188374

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2017-10-27 05:30 +0200
Message-ID<uF3vj-676-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188371
Celejar writes:
> https://www.linuxcounter.net/
> I don't know how meaningful its data are.

Utterly useless.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#188382

FromAlessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it>
Date2017-10-27 13:00 +0200
Message-ID<uFawN-2rD-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188374
On Fri 27/Oct/2017 05:21:48 +0200 John Hasler wrote:
> Celejar writes:
>> https://www.linuxcounter.net/
>> I don't know how meaningful its data are.
> 
> Utterly useless.

Er... why was the OP looking for that data?

Ale
--

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#188393

FromRic Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-27 18:30 +0200
Message-ID<uFfG9-69R-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188374
On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> Celejar writes:
>> https://www.linuxcounter.net/
>> I don't know how meaningful its data are.
> 
> Utterly useless.

I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". 
Those folks have maintained the site since 1999 or so. It is what it 
is... a database of users who have bothered to have themselves counted 
as a Linux User. They don't claim to be anything else. Ric



-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#188395

Fromx9p <debian@x9p.org>
Date2017-10-27 19:00 +0200
Message-ID<uFg9b-6l2-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188393
On 2017-10-27 14:27, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>> Celejar writes:
>>> https://www.linuxcounter.net/
>>> I don't know how meaningful its data are.
>> 
>> Utterly useless.
> 
> I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly
> useless". Those folks have maintained the site since 1999 or so. It is
> what it is... a database of users who have bothered to have themselves
> counted as a Linux User. They don't claim to be anything else. Ric

Just for the fun of it, if really interested on that, maybe build a 
script to parse the archives of the public mailing lists for the main 
Linux distros, getting the last active unique emails for the past 6 
months... and count them.

just an idea tough...

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#188397

FromPhil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-27 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<uFheW-7ia-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188393

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On 27/10/17 17:27, Ric Moore wrote:

> On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>> Celejar writes:
>>> https://www.linuxcounter.net/
>>> I don't know how meaningful its data are.
>>
>> Utterly useless.
> 
> I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless".
> Those folks have maintained the site since 1999 or so. It is what it
> is... a database of users who have bothered to have themselves counted
> as a Linux User. They don't claim to be anything else. Ric

I totally agree. It's pretty low to demean people's efforts at all but
especially people who are giving up their time to further a project dear
to us all.

Cheers,

  Phil.

-- 
"For 50 years it was like being chained to an idiot"
Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty

https://www.linuxcounter.net/cert/550036.png

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#188399

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2017-10-27 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<uFhHX-7sZ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188397
Hi,

Phil Dobbin wrote:
> Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty

Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders.
In case of loss, simply re-install
  https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#188407

FromPhil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-27 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<uFj73-6k-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 27/10/17 19:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty
> 
> Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders.
> In case of loss, simply re-install
>   https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0

:-)

Cheers,

  Phil.

-- 
"For 50 years it was like being chained to an idiot"
Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty

https://www.linuxcounter.net/cert/550036.png

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#188408

FromTerence <terence.john@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-27 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<uFj73-6k-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188407

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Done that, Phil, but can't see any change on my boot-up speed, nor in my
response time.

What else can you suggest?

Feeling down,

Saki

On 27 October 2017 at 21:03, Phil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 27/10/17 19:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Phil Dobbin wrote:
> >> Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty
> >
> > Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders.
> > In case of loss, simply re-install
> >   https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0
>
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
>   Phil.
>
> --
> "For 50 years it was like being chained to an idiot"
> Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty
>
> https://www.linuxcounter.net/cert/550036.png
>
>

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#188409

FromMichael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de>
Date2017-10-27 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<uFkw9-UK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188399
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:37:22 +0200
"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Phil Dobbin wrote:
> > Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty
> 
> Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders.
> In case of loss, simply re-install
>   https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0
                                             ^^^

Wow, that sounds like one even gets a third gonad for free :))

scnr

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

Too much of anything, even love, isn't necessarily a good thing.
		-- Kirk, "The Trouble with Tribbles", stardate 4525.6

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#188401

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2017-10-27 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<uFhRE-7yz-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188397
Ric writes:
> I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly
> useless".

It's a simple statement of fact.  The Linux Counter data is utterly
useless for the purpose of estimating the number of Linux users.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#188404

Fromx9p <debian@x9p.org>
Date2017-10-27 21:00 +0200
Message-ID<uFi1k-7CI-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188401
On 2017-10-27 16:41, John Hasler wrote:
> Ric writes:
>> I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly
>> useless".
> 
> It's a simple statement of fact.  The Linux Counter data is utterly
> useless for the purpose of estimating the number of Linux users.

:%s/Linux/active Linux/g

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#188375

FromAnthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net>
Date2017-10-27 05:50 +0200
Message-ID<uF3OF-6ee-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#188368
On 10/26/2017 09:38 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi all,
> Any place where this number exists?  I would include those companies 
> and web professionals, using Linux servers as apart of their craft?

This isn't an easy question to answer, or probably even a meaningful 
one, especially because it's easy to be a Linux user without knowing it. 
E.g., most consumer WiFi routers run Linux. Android phones & tablets run 
Linux. Chromebooks run Linux. A lot of set-top boxes run Linux. That's 
several billion Linux users from those alone.

You'll have even more issues determining what it means to say a company 
use Linux.

Once you've figured out what you mean by a "Linux user", there are 
probably some estimates, of varying quality using various methodologies.

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