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non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

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  non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 09:50 +0200
    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 11:00 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 15:50 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 16:30 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 17:30 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:30 +0200
                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:10 +0200
                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 00:30 +0200
                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-09 13:40 +0200
                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 16:50 +0200
                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-09 19:00 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-10-09 20:10 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Daniel Keast <daniel@kea.st> - 2017-10-09 21:20 +0200
                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 15:00 +0200
                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 16:30 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-10-13 17:10 +0200
                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 19:20 +0200
                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:00 +0200
                              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 20:10 +0200
                                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:20 +0200
                                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 20:40 +0200
                                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
                                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 21:50 +0200
                                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
                                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 22:20 +0200
                                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:00 +0200
                                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-14 00:10 +0200
                                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-14 02:20 +0200
                                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
                                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
                                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
                                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
                                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
                          Re: Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2017-10-13 23:50 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 21:10 +0200
                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:50 +0200
                              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:10 +0200
                                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 23:30 +0200
                                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 12:50 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:40 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:40 +0200
    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 11:20 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-08 11:40 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 12:30 +0200
    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 11:30 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:10 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-08 17:10 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 17:50 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 22:30 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:30 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-09 11:30 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 02:30 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 07:50 +0200
                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD anxiousmac@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 08:40 +0200
                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 13:00 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-10-08 16:40 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200

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#187861

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 16:30 +0200
Message-ID	<uA98m-4UW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187856

Curt wrote:

>> I managed to install it by unplugging the
>> Ethernet cable, moving the computer to
>> another place, and instead using
>> a smartphone with USB-tethering to provide
>> Internet. Now one wonders, what will happen
>> when I plug in an Ethernet cable once more
>> and expect Internet to work? Will it?
>
> For the answer to these questions and more,
> be sure to tune in to the next installment of
> "Manny Does Debian."

:)

> You must upgrade to the newest BIOS, because
> the F.07< bioses, were known to have trouble
> with ethernet drivers in Linux (and also in
> Windows XP). After that you don't have to add
> `noacpi` options on boot, as it is said in
> some forums.

Upgrade the BIOS? How do I do that?

And how do I know if I have F.07 or less?

> You do have an HP Compaq 6720s, right?

Yes.

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#187863

From	Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com>
Date	2017-10-13 17:10 +0200
Message-ID	<uA9L3-5oN-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187861

On 13-10-17, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> 
> >> I managed to install it by unplugging the
> >> Ethernet cable, moving the computer to
> >> another place, and instead using
> >> a smartphone with USB-tethering to provide
> >> Internet. Now one wonders, what will happen
> >> when I plug in an Ethernet cable once more
> >> and expect Internet to work? Will it?
> >
> > For the answer to these questions and more,
> > be sure to tune in to the next installment of
> > "Manny Does Debian."
> 
> :)
> 
> > You must upgrade to the newest BIOS, because
> > the F.07< bioses, were known to have trouble
> > with ethernet drivers in Linux (and also in
> > Windows XP). After that you don't have to add
> > `noacpi` options on boot, as it is said in
> > some forums.
> 
> Upgrade the BIOS? How do I do that?
> 
> And how do I know if I have F.07 or less?
> 
> > You do have an HP Compaq 6720s, right?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> -- 
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> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
> 

I've checked it fast and it looks like that there is no BIOS updates to
download for Linux for your model. But there are some for Windows XP.
So, there are 2 possible solutions. One is to install M$ on some hard
and to download and install BIOS update with it. After that get rid of
that infection of operating system. Other solution would be to do
something like this:

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-Recovery/How-to-update-BIOS-on-Linux/td-p/4869835

Never did it on HP, so not sure how well it would go. But I know that
method like that/similar to that was successful on Dell laptops before.
As for how to find BIOS version, you can use dmidecode command, with
root privs to find out.

Hope that this helps.

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#187865

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 19:20 +0200
Message-ID	<uAbMS-6zv-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187863

Dejan Jocic wrote:

>>> You must upgrade to the newest BIOS,
>>> because the F.07< bioses, were known to
>>> have trouble with ethernet drivers in Linux
>>> (and also in Windows XP). After that you
>>> don't have to add `noacpi` options on boot,
>>> as it is said in some forums.
>> 
>> Upgrade the BIOS? How do I do that?
>> 
>> And how do I know if I have F.07 or less?
>
> As for how to find BIOS version, you can use
> dmidecode command, with root privs to
> find out.

Oh, no! According to dmidecode, I have

    [...]
    BIOS Information
      Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
      Version: 68MDU Ver. F.05
      [...]

Does this mean I have to upgrade it?

Because, when they say "ethernet drivers",
does that refer to the physical Ethernet port
only? I'm asking because the USB-tethering
works with no problem. And that would seem like
much more recent technology? Isn't that
Ethernet as well? If it isn't, and it isn't
WiFi either, then what is it?

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#187866

From	Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Date	2017-10-13 20:00 +0200
Message-ID	<uAcpz-6Ov-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187865

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 07:10:09PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>Because, when they say "ethernet drivers",
>does that refer to the physical Ethernet port
>only? I'm asking because the USB-tethering
>works with no problem. And that would seem like
>much more recent technology? Isn't that
>Ethernet as well? If it isn't, and it isn't
>WiFi either, then what is it?

USB ethernet would not be affected, but will also be slower/more 
cpu-intensive than internal PCI/PCIe ethernet. If you're happy with how 
the USB ethernet is working, then just stick with it.

Mike Stone

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#187867

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 20:10 +0200
Message-ID	<uAczg-76U-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187866

Michael Stone wrote:

> USB ethernet would not be affected, but will
> also be slower/more cpu-intensive than
> internal PCI/PCIe ethernet. If you're happy
> with how the USB ethernet is working, then
> just stick with it.

I'm not happy with it, or rather the guy who is
supposed to have the computer has an
Ethernet cable.

So you are saying, it is likely
"cable Ethernet" doesn't work because of the
DMI being outdated, and "USB Ethernet" works
because it has nothing to do with the DMI?

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#187868

From	Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Date	2017-10-13 20:20 +0200
Message-ID	<uAcIW-7a2-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187867

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 08:04:28PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>Michael Stone wrote:
>
>> USB ethernet would not be affected, but will
>> also be slower/more cpu-intensive than
>> internal PCI/PCIe ethernet. If you're happy
>> with how the USB ethernet is working, then
>> just stick with it.
>
>I'm not happy with it, or rather the guy who is
>supposed to have the computer has an
>Ethernet cable.
>
>So you are saying, it is likely
>"cable Ethernet" doesn't work because of the
>DMI being outdated, and "USB Ethernet" works
>because it has nothing to do with the DMI?

The thread got too long, so I'd forgotten what you'd meant by 
USB-ethernet. So yes, the thing you're doing works because it's not 
using the internet ethernet that has the firmware issue. I first thought 
you mean something like this  
http://www.cablematters.com/pc-447-101-cable-matters-superspeed-usb-30-to-rj45-gigabit-ethernet-adapter.aspx 
which should also work fine and act as a normal ethernet adapter you can 
just plug into your network, if you don't want to mess with updating the 
firmware on the system to try to get the internal ethernet working.

Mike Stone

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#187869

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date	2017-10-13 20:40 +0200
Message-ID	<uAd2h-7g6-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187868

On Fri 13 Oct 2017 at 14:15:41 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 08:04:28PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> > Michael Stone wrote:
> > 
> > > USB ethernet would not be affected, but will
> > > also be slower/more cpu-intensive than
> > > internal PCI/PCIe ethernet. If you're happy
> > > with how the USB ethernet is working, then
> > > just stick with it.
> > 
> > I'm not happy with it, or rather the guy who is
> > supposed to have the computer has an
> > Ethernet cable.
> > 
> > So you are saying, it is likely
> > "cable Ethernet" doesn't work because of the
> > DMI being outdated, and "USB Ethernet" works
> > because it has nothing to do with the DMI?
> 
> The thread got too long, so I'd forgotten what you'd meant by USB-ethernet.
> So yes, the thing you're doing works because it's not using the internet
> ethernet that has the firmware issue. I first thought you mean something
> like this  http://www.cablematters.com/pc-447-101-cable-matters-superspeed-usb-30-to-rj45-gigabit-ethernet-adapter.aspx
> which should also work fine and act as a normal ethernet adapter you can
> just plug into your network, if you don't want to mess with updating the
> firmware on the system to try to get the internal ethernet working.

There isn't a single bit of evidence from the OP that there is an
ethernet firmware issue. When asked to provide information on what
the installer sees and what happens

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/10/msg00323.html

he declined to provide it.

He's poncing about.

-- 
Brian.

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#187873

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
Message-ID	<uAdF0-7IB-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187869

Brian wrote:

> There isn't a single bit of evidence from the
> OP that there is an ethernet firmware issue.
> When asked to provide information on what the
> installer sees and what happens
>
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/10/msg00323.html
>
> he declined to provide it.
>
> He's poncing about.

?

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#187878

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date	2017-10-13 21:50 +0200
Message-ID	<uAe81-7XB-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187873

On Fri 13 Oct 2017 at 21:10:52 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > There isn't a single bit of evidence from the
> > OP that there is an ethernet firmware issue.
> > When asked to provide information on what the
> > installer sees and what happens
> >
> >   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/10/msg00323.html
> >
> > he declined to provide it.
> >
> > He's poncing about.
> 
> ?

It means:

 > We surmise your computer is connected to a router by an ethernet cable.
 > Boot the installer in expert mode and go through the first two screens.
 > Say "no" to providing firmware (it all seems wireless related and you
 > have no desire for wireless). Eventually you will be asked for what
 > interface to use. We want to know everything you see on the screen at
 > that point.

 > Choose an interface and move on. Is this where it fails? Let us know
 > what you see. Stop, switch to console 2 and do 'more /var/log/syslog'.
 > Anything towards the end of that log?

What do you see? What does the installer tell you about the network
interfaces?

-- 
Brian.

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#187879

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
Message-ID	<uAero-8kt-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187878

Brian wrote:

> What does the installer tell you about the
> network interfaces?

I didn't check that because when I installed it
I tried the new tethered USB Ethernet idea and
then the DHCP autoconfig didn't fail. I can
check next time if the noapic idea
doesn't work.

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#187881

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date	2017-10-13 22:20 +0200
Message-ID	<uAeB3-8nn-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187879

On Fri 13 Oct 2017 at 22:02:54 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > What does the installer tell you about the
> > network interfaces?
> 
> I didn't check that because when I installed it
> I tried the new tethered USB Ethernet idea and
> then the DHCP autoconfig didn't fail. I can
> check next time if the noapic idea
> doesn't work.

It took you about a minute to write your response. It would take no more
five minutes to get the information asked for. USB tethering and noapic
are sideshows,

-- 
Brian.

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#187883

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 23:00 +0200
Message-ID	<uAfdL-ag-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187881

Brian wrote:

> It took you about a minute to write your
> response. It would take no more five minutes
> to get the information asked for.
> USB tethering and noapic are sideshows,

I don't have an Ethernet connection here.
I moved the computer. If I can get the
information post-installation, and no Ethernet,
tell me how and I'll do it.

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#187887

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date	2017-10-14 00:10 +0200
Message-ID	<uAgjv-11s-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187879

On Fri 13 Oct 2017 at 22:02:54 (+0200), Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> 
> > What does the installer tell you about the
> > network interfaces?
> 
> I didn't check that because when I installed it
> I tried the new tethered USB Ethernet idea and
> then the DHCP autoconfig didn't fail. I can
> check next time if the noapic idea
> doesn't work.

Perhaps someone (me?) needs to explain that when you do what
Brian asks, nothing happens to the installation you've already done.
The network configuration is done right near the start, before
the partitioning and before the installation of anything on
the computer's disks. You're just carrying out the preliminaries.

So you can do it right now. When done, either select the menu
selection to abandon the install, or just hard power-off the machine.

Cheers,
David.

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#187888

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-14 02:20 +0200
Message-ID	<uAilk-2fc-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187887

David Wright wrote:

> Perhaps someone (me?) needs to explain that
> when you do what Brian asks, nothing happens
> to the installation you've already done.
> The network configuration is done right near
> the start, before the partitioning and before
> the installation of anything on the
> computer's disks. You're just carrying out
> the preliminaries.
>
> So you can do it right now. When done, either
> select the menu selection to abandon the
> install, or just hard power-off the machine.

OK! You were right, I didn't know that.

Ironic thing is, I went to do this in another
building, and there, the DHCP didn't fail with
ordinary Ethernet! So I just installed the
system. Remember first thing I said with
another Debian computer, Ethernet worked, only
I had to do 'dhclient eth0' every time?
Perhaps that was what didn't make DHCP possible
on the install machine. With this other
connection, there were no problems! God willing
everything will run fine from now on.
Thanks for all the help :)

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#187870

From	Curt <curty@free.fr>
Date	2017-10-13 20:50 +0200
Message-ID	<uAdbY-7jj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187868

On 2017-10-13, Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> wrote:
>>
>>So you are saying, it is likely
>>"cable Ethernet" doesn't work because of the
>>DMI being outdated, and "USB Ethernet" works
>>because it has nothing to do with the DMI?
>
> The thread got too long, so I'd forgotten what you'd meant by 
> USB-ethernet. So yes, the thing you're doing works because it's not 
> using the internet ethernet that has the firmware issue. I first thought 
> you mean something like this  
> http://www.cablematters.com/pc-447-101-cable-matters-superspeed-usb-30-to-rj45-gigabit-ethernet-adapter.aspx 
> which should also work fine and act as a normal ethernet adapter you can 
> just plug into your network, if you don't want to mess with updating the 
> firmware on the system to try to get the internal ethernet working.

He might also like to try before flashing the bios or buying new
material the "noapic" kernel boot parameter the linux laptop site
referred to in the notes (although I have no idea whether it is a
sensible, viable workaround or not).


> Mike Stone
>
>


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#187874

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
Message-ID	<uAdOF-7LV-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187870

Curt wrote:

> He might also like to try before flashing the
> bios or buying new material the "noapic"
> kernel boot parameter the linux laptop site
> referred to in the notes (although I have no
> idea whether it is a sensible, viable
> workaround or not).

OK, found it [1], in

    /boot/grub/grub.conf

do "acpi=off", for example

    kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-194.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet noapic acpi=off

[1] https://access.redhat.com/solutions/58790

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#187876

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
Message-ID	<uAdYm-7U8-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187874

I wrote:

>> He might also like to try before flashing
>> the bios or buying new material the "noapic"
>> kernel boot parameter the linux laptop site
>> referred to in the notes (although I have no
>> idea whether it is a sensible, viable
>> workaround or not).
>
> OK, found it [1], in
>
>     /boot/grub/grub.conf
>
> do "acpi=off", for example
>
>     kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-194.el5 ro
> root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet noapic
> acpi=off
>
> [1] https://access.redhat.com/solutions/58790

Hm, perhaps that was RH specific, I don't even
have that file.

Better 

    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="noapic, nolapic"

in

    /etc/default/grub

then

    update-grub

PS. What is "nolapic"? DS.

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#187880

From	Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date	2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
Message-ID	<uAero-8kt-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187876

Emanuel Berg composed on 2017-10-13 21:36 (UTC+0200):

>> OK, found it [1], in

>>     /boot/grub/grub.conf

>> do "acpi=off", for example

>>     kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-194.el5 ro
>> root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet noapic
>> acpi=off

>> [1] https://access.redhat.com/solutions/58790

> Hm, perhaps that was RH specific, I don't even
> have that file. 

Unless you have a RedHat or RedHat variant of Grub Legacy installed,
you wouldn't. Standard Grub Legacy uses menu.lst. Grub2 uses grub.cfg.

> Better 

>     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="noapic, nolapic"

> in

>     /etc/default/grub

> then

>     update-grub

> PS. What is "nolapic"? DS. 

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#187875

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
Message-ID	<uAdOF-7LV-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187870

Curt wrote:

> He might also like to try before flashing the
> bios or buying new material the "noapic"
> kernel boot parameter the linux laptop site
> referred to in the notes (although I have no
> idea whether it is a sensible, viable
> workaround or not).

It sounds like something one would try before
doing the other stuff as that is perhaps
a bigger project? Can this be set from the
outside post-installation or do you tick that
during installation? Since I have just a clean
slate re-installing just Debian isn't
a big deal.

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#187872

From	Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date	2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
Message-ID	<uAdEZ-7IB-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#187868

Michael Stone wrote:

> The thread got too long, so I'd forgotten
> what you'd meant by USB-ethernet. So yes, the
> thing you're doing works because it's not
> using the internet ethernet that has the
> firmware issue.

And by "firmware" you mean the "new" firmware
issue which is the DMI issue indicated by the
version, not the missing components that were
related to WiFi and originally incorrectly were
assumed (I thought so) to cause the
DHCP problem?

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