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  Advice on Debian installation Sebastian Luna Valero <sebastian.luna.valero@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 20:20 +0200
    Re: Advice on Debian installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-07-08 20:30 +0200
    Re: Advice on Debian installation Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-07-08 20:50 +0200
      Re: Advice on Debian installation Sebastian Luna Valero <sebastian.luna.valero@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 21:10 +0200
        Re: Advice on Debian installation Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-08 22:30 +0200
          Re: Advice on Debian installation Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 22:40 +0200
            Re: Advice on Debian installation Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-09 00:40 +0200
              Re: Advice on Debian installation Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-07-09 02:10 +0200
                Re: Advice on Debian installation Sebastian Luna Valero <sebastian.luna.valero@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 13:00 +0200

#183407 — Advice on Debian installation

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Hello,

I have a dual-boot laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7. I am
planning to install the latest Debian 9 LTS on the partition where Ubuntu
is currently installed.

Since grub is already available on the laptop, does anyone know what will
happy when I install grub again with Debian?

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

Best regards,
Sebastian

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#183408

On Sat 08 Jul 2017 at 19:10:23 +0100, Sebastian Luna Valero wrote:

> I have a dual-boot laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7. I am
> planning to install the latest Debian 9 LTS on the partition where Ubuntu
> is currently installed.
> 
> Since grub is already available on the laptop, does anyone know what will
> happy when I install grub again with Debian?

Delete the Ubuntu partition at the partitioning stage and later on
install GRUB. All will be well.

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#183410

Le 08/07/2017 à 20:10, Sebastian Luna Valero a écrit :
> 
> I have a dual-boot laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7. I am
> planning to install the latest Debian 9 LTS on the partition where Ubuntu
> is currently installed.

Note that Debian 9 is not yet LTS and won't be before a long time.
The current LTS is Debian 7 "Wheezy". A release eventually becomes LTS 
only after normal support has ended, one year after becoming oldstable.

> Since grub is already available on the laptop, does anyone know what will
> happy when I install grub again with Debian?

It depends where Ubuntu installed GRUB, and where Debian will install 
it. Anyway, some parts of GRUB are in /boot, so GRUB must be reinstalled 
if you're going to wipe /boot.

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#183412

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​Great, many thanks for your quick replies!

Will try that, fingers crossed!

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From: sebastian.luna.valero@gmail.com

> Great, many thanks for your quick replies!
> Will try that, fingers crossed!

Don't listen to those ubuntu haters, nothing will happen.
Leave it as is. When debian installs its version of grub
on /dev/sda it will be in control and provide you boot entries
for win7, ubuntu, and Debian. If you log back to Ubuntu
and $sudo grub-install /dev/sda
$sudo update-grub it will gain back control and create
the same boot entries for all three but ubuntu will be
first choice. At least this way you will not have to look
at the ugly green debian snail screen when you wake
up in the morning! :)
As long as you are not including an Arch/Manjaro
installation you will be fine with either grub. I have had
up to seven of them (it only takes a few kb of space).
Delete the ubuntu partition and you will be OK!
Tell this to the ausie guy that installed stretch from scratch and
lost all networking! 3-4 days ago. At least this man can download
all the gpg stuff and the deb files that were needed from ubuntu
and pass them to the half broken isolated debian installation.
Just keep your fingers crossed and debian might even work
first time around.

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#183419

On 08-07-17, Fungi4All wrote:
> From: sebastian.luna.valero@gmail.com
> 
> > Great, many thanks for your quick replies!
> > Will try that, fingers crossed!
> 
> Don't listen to those ubuntu haters, nothing will happen.
> Leave it as is. When debian installs its version of grub
> on /dev/sda it will be in control and provide you boot entries
> for win7, ubuntu, and Debian. If you log back to Ubuntu
> and $sudo grub-install /dev/sda
> $sudo update-grub it will gain back control and create
> the same boot entries for all three but ubuntu will be
> first choice. At least this way you will not have to look
> at the ugly green debian snail screen when you wake
> up in the morning! :)
> As long as you are not including an Arch/Manjaro
> installation you will be fine with either grub. I have had
> up to seven of them (it only takes a few kb of space).
> Delete the ubuntu partition and you will be OK!
> Tell this to the ausie guy that installed stretch from scratch and
> lost all networking! 3-4 days ago. At least this man can download
> all the gpg stuff and the deb files that were needed from ubuntu
> and pass them to the half broken isolated debian installation.
> Just keep your fingers crossed and debian might even work
> first time around.

Do you even bother to read other people posts? He wants to install
Debian where Ubuntu install is. He wants to replace it.

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#183422

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> From: jodejka@gmail.com
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Do you even bother to read other people posts? He wants to install
> Debian where Ubuntu install is. He wants to replace it.

why worry about ubuntu grub if it gets erased intentionally, it doesn't make
sense.

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#183426

Le 09/07/2017 à 00:30, Fungi4All a écrit :
>> From: jodejka@gmail.com
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Do you even bother to read other people posts? He wants to install
>> Debian where Ubuntu install is. He wants to replace it.
> 
> why worry about ubuntu grub if it gets erased intentionally, it doesn't make
> sense.

Depending on how GRUB is installed by the Debian Installer, a non 
functional part of Ubuntu GRUB might remain and cause confusion.

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#183447

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Thanks All,

I am glad to report that Debian 9 was successfully installed on my laptop!

Removing Ubuntu at the partitioning stage and installing GRUB on the MBR
actually worked.

Best regards,
Sebastian

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