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  Debian hardware compatibility John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-04-19 10:00 +0200
    Re: Debian hardware compatibility Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-04-19 12:20 +0200
      Re: Debian hardware compatibility Joshua Schaeffer <jschaeffer0922@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 17:20 +0200
        Re: Debian hardware compatibility John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-04-20 14:20 +0200
          Re: Debian hardware compatibility Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-04-21 00:50 +0200
    Re: Debian hardware compatibility Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-04-20 02:40 +0200
      Re: Debian hardware compatibility John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-04-20 07:20 +0200
        Re: Debian hardware compatibility Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-04-20 14:10 +0200
          Re: Debian hardware compatibility solitone <solitone@mail.com> - 2017-04-20 14:50 +0200
        Re: Debian hardware compatibility songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-20 16:40 +0200
        Re: Debian hardware compatibility Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-04-21 01:00 +0200
      Re: Debian hardware compatibility Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-05-03 05:50 +0200

#180263 — Debian hardware compatibility

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I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here:

 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc

I tried to find out if my new hardware would run Debian stable, but
couldn't confirm.

CPU is Intel Core i7-7700K on an Asus STRIX Z270F mobo. I'm planning to
drive two monitors from the onboard graphics controller, one via DVI the
other via HDMI.

Will Debian (w/ KDE Plasma) run on my new kit, does anybody know?

Cheers,
John.
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#180265

John Elliot V wrote:
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> I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here:
>
>  https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc
>
> I tried to find out if my new hardware would run Debian stable, but
> couldn't confirm.
>
> CPU is Intel Core i7-7700K on an Asus STRIX Z270F mobo. I'm planning to
> drive two monitors from the onboard graphics controller, one via DVI the
> other via HDMI.
>
> Will Debian (w/ KDE Plasma) run on my new kit, does anybody know?
>

I don't see anything that screams "linux incompatibility" on that list.
Might have some "fun" with the graphics, but then I've not kept up on
Intel's offerings in that regard.


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#180281

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I don't think you'll have any issue with that set of hardware. If you've
never done water cooling before then you'll be very happy with your H80i
purchase. I have a Corsair Hydro H100i in both my Linux and Windows boxes
and absolutely love them. I'll never do anything but CPU water cooling
anymore. Also I would recommend the 850 Evo vs the 850 Pro. The pro's are
typically more expensive and only offer slightly better write performance
[1]. I've bought over 10 850 Evo's over the last few years and never been
dissatisfied with any of them. Just my personal opinion, but thought I
would mention it.

Thanks,
Joshua Schaeffer

[1]
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Pro-256GB-vs-Samsung-850-Evo-250GB/2385vs2977

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> John Elliot V wrote:
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> > I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here:
> >
> >  https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc
> >
> > I tried to find out if my new hardware would run Debian stable, but
> > couldn't confirm.
> >
> > CPU is Intel Core i7-7700K on an Asus STRIX Z270F mobo. I'm planning to
> > drive two monitors from the onboard graphics controller, one via DVI the
> > other via HDMI.
> >
> > Will Debian (w/ KDE Plasma) run on my new kit, does anybody know?
> >
>
> I don't see anything that screams "linux incompatibility" on that list.
> Might have some "fun" with the graphics, but then I've not kept up on
> Intel's offerings in that regard.
>
>
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#180325

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On 20/04/17 01:14, Joshua Schaeffer wrote:
> I would recommend the 850 Evo vs the 850 Pro

Thanks for the tip. I had considered the Evo but this:

 https://www.kosagi.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=421

had me a little spooked.

I've already parted with my money for the Pro. I've made bigger mistakes
in life... :)

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#180353

On 21/04/17 00:15, John Elliot V wrote:
> On 20/04/17 01:14, Joshua Schaeffer wrote:
>> I would recommend the 850 Evo vs the 850 Pro
> Thanks for the tip. I had considered the Evo but this:
>  https://www.kosagi.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=421
> had me a little spooked.

That is the 840 Evo. Completely different animal.

Kind regards,

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Director
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New Zealand

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#180301

On 19/04/17 19:52, John Elliot V wrote:
> I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here:
>  https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc
> I tried to find out if my new hardware would run Debian stable, but
> couldn't confirm.
> CPU is Intel Core i7-7700K on an Asus STRIX Z270F mobo. I'm planning to
> drive two monitors from the onboard graphics controller, one via DVI the
> other via HDMI.
> Will Debian (w/ KDE Plasma) run on my new kit, does anybody know?
> Cheers,
> John.

Both your 7th generation Kaby Lake and the previous 6th generation 
Skylake have serious problems with older kernels such as the 3.16.39 in 
jessie, especially with integrated graphics. Older kernels also likely 
lack support for the i219v ethernet adapter on this board (but it is on 
the e1000e module support list for later kernels). You can get 4.9.18 
from backports, but why not just install stretch from RC3? stretch is 
close to release.

HD 630 iGPU is working fine for me with XFCE on an i7 7700 with one HDMI 
output on 4.9.18-1 amd64. I am on sid, but stretch has the same kernel. 
I purged xserver-xorg-video-intel because the modesetting driver is 
preferred for modern hardware.

Asus UEFI BIOS (H110I-PLUS BIOS 3202) defaults to incorrect turbo boost 
multipliers but I was able to manually set the correct "Per CPU" values 
in the BIOS. For a 7700K, these should be 45/44/44/44 if you are not 
overclocking (base clock 100MHz):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#180310

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On 20/04/17 10:33, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> why not just install stretch from RC3? stretch is close to release.

Sounds like a good idea! Thanks Ben.

Will stretch RC3 smoothly transition to stable (with an apt-get
dist-upgrade) when stretch is released?

> HD 630 iGPU is working fine for me with XFCE on an i7 7700 with one HDMI
> output on 4.9.18-1 amd64. I am on sid, but stretch has the same kernel.
> I purged xserver-xorg-video-intel because the modesetting driver is
> preferred for modern hardware.

Will that apply to me? I.e. I should purge xserver-xorg-video-intel?

> Asus UEFI BIOS (H110I-PLUS BIOS 3202) defaults to incorrect turbo boost
> multipliers but I was able to manually set the correct "Per CPU" values
> in the BIOS. For a 7700K, these should be 45/44/44/44 if you are not
> overclocking (base clock 100MHz):
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake

OK, cool, thanks.

...and what if I am overclocking? I've never overclocked a system
before, but I heard I could safely overclock my new CPU to 5GHz, which
sounded pretty exciting..! :P

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#180324

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 03:12:33PM +1000, John Elliot V wrote:
> Will stretch RC3 smoothly transition to stable (with an apt-get
> dist-upgrade) when stretch is released?

Yes.  In fact there's a very strong possibility you won't even need to
do a whole dist-upgrade.  A simple "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"
may work, if the freeze proceeds smoothly.

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#180326

On Thursday, 20 April 2017 08:07:51 CEST Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 03:12:33PM +1000, John Elliot V wrote:
> > Will stretch RC3 smoothly transition to stable (with an apt-get
> > dist-upgrade) when stretch is released?
> 
> Yes.  In fact there's a very strong possibility you won't even need to
> do a whole dist-upgrade.  A simple "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"
> may work, if the freeze proceeds smoothly.

This was exactly what happened to me when jessie transitioned from testing to 
stable. I would expect stretch be the same.

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#180333

John Elliot V wrote:
> On 20/04/17 10:33, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>> why not just install stretch from RC3? stretch is close to release.
>
> Sounds like a good idea! Thanks Ben.
>
> Will stretch RC3 smoothly transition to stable (with an apt-get
> dist-upgrade) when stretch is released?

  if you install it as stretch (by name) then it
will not need anything at all to remain as is
until you choose to make it something else.


  songbird

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#180354

On 20/04/17 17:12, John Elliot V wrote:
> Will stretch RC3 smoothly transition to stable (with an apt-get
> dist-upgrade) when stretch is released?

You should not need to do anything. When stretch is released as stable, 
you will already be on it. Just make sure that, when stretch is 
released, you have the security repo so you start getting stable 
security updates.

> Will that apply to me? I.e. I should purge xserver-xorg-video-intel?

It is recommended.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#180627

On 20/04/17 12:33, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> Asus UEFI BIOS (H110I-PLUS BIOS 3202) defaults to incorrect turbo boost
> multipliers but I was able to manually set the correct "Per CPU" values
> in the BIOS. For a 7700K, these should be 45/44/44/44 if you are not
> overclocking (base clock 100MHz):
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake

For the record, upgrading to H110I-PLUS BIOS 3402 fixed the turbo boost 
multipliers.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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