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Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?

Started byTom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
First post2017-03-24 13:50 +0100
Last post2017-03-26 03:50 +0200
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  Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 13:50 +0100
    Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 14:00 +0100
      Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 14:10 +0100
    Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-03-24 23:20 +0100
      Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 12:50 +0100
    Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 10:20 +0100
      Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 13:00 +0100
        Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-03-25 21:40 +0100
          Re: Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1? Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 03:50 +0200

#179246 — Need USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?

FromTom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-24 13:50 +0100
SubjectNeed USB Wireless Adaptor for Dell Inspiron 11 2-in-1?
Message-ID<towPg-1DH-7@gated-at.bofh.it>

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I have the Dell laptop and I was able to load Deb 8 on it via a netinst,
but the Dell 1800 wireless drops contact with the internet often. Sometimes
a reboot will work but not every time.

Three questions, please:

1.  What specific model of USB wireless ethernet adaptor does anyone
recommend that has worked for them out of the box?

2.  What specific model of USB wired ethernet adaptor does anyone recommend
that has worked for them out of the box?

3.  If anyone has used jessie backports to fix a Dell Wireless 1800
problem, can you list the backport packages needed?

Thanks so much.

Best regards,

-Tom

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#179247

FromReco <recoverym4n@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-24 14:00 +0100
Message-ID<towYW-1Hf-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179246
	Hi.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:40:07 +0000
Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the Dell laptop and I was able to load Deb 8 on it via a netinst,
> but the Dell 1800 wireless drops contact with the internet often. Sometimes
> a reboot will work but not every time.
> 
> Three questions, please:
> 
> 1.  What specific model of USB wireless ethernet adaptor does anyone
> recommend that has worked for them out of the box?

Ralink RT5370. Needs non-free firmware though.

> 2.  What specific model of USB wired ethernet adaptor does anyone recommend
> that has worked for them out of the box?

ASIX AX88772 - 100Mbit.

ASIX AX88179 - 1Gbit.

Both work with stock Debian kernels since wheezy.

> 3.  If anyone has used jessie backports to fix a Dell Wireless 1800
> problem, can you list the backport packages needed?

I try to stay away from anything that has Dell logo on it. But if I was
you I'd start with appropriate 'linux-image' package.

Reco

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#179248

FromTom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-24 14:10 +0100
Message-ID<tox8B-1Zx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 07:56 Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> wrote:

>         Hi.

...

>
Thanks very much, Reco!

Best regards,

-Tom

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#179289

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2017-03-24 23:20 +0100
Message-ID<toFIS-87k-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179246
On 25/03/17 01:40, Tom Browder wrote:
> 1.  What specific model of USB wireless ethernet adaptor does anyone
> recommend that has worked for them out of the box?

TP-Link TL-WN722N:
http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5520_TL-WN722N.html

This device is supported by the ath9k_htc kernel module. It requires 
firmware-atheros from nonfree:
https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc

 From lsusb:
0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#179303

FromTom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-25 12:50 +0100
Message-ID<toSmJ-dq-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179289
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 17:11 Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> wrote:
>
> On 25/03/17 01:40, Tom Browder wrote:
> > 1.  What specific model of USB wireless ethernet adaptor does anyone
> > recommend that has worked for them out of the box?
>
> TP-Link TL-WN722N:
> http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/cat-5520_TL-WN722N.html

Thanks, Ben.

I would have bought that but I didn't have your rec at the time. Based
on reviews, etc., at Amazon, I bought the Panda Ultra 150Mbps Wireless
N USB Adapter.

It will arrive next week and I hope it works!

Best regards,

-Tom

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#179298

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-25 10:20 +0100
Message-ID<toQ1z-78B-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179246
Tom Browder wrote:

> Dell 1800
What is this Dell 1800 - what is the wireless card model and driver?
In the subject you ay Dell Inspiron 11, which has DW1707.
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Dell_Wireless_1707_(DW1707)

I've been using Dell Latitude in the past 12y and never had a problem with
wireless.

I would try most recent kernel before buying anything.

regards

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#179305

FromTom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-25 13:00 +0100
Message-ID<toSwp-gI-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179298
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 04:15 deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom Browder wrote:
> > Dell 1800
> What is this Dell 1800 - what is the wireless card model and driver?
> In the subject you ay Dell Inspiron 11, which has DW1707.
> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Dell_Wireless_1707_(DW1707)

The Dell Wireless 1800 is what Dell calls the wireless network adapter
in the Dell 11 Inspiron 3000 2-in-one laptop.  There are actually at
least three sub-models of the 11 and mine (3157, service tag FGYN52)
has the DW1800, part number KJTH7, which uses the Debian package
firmware-realtek.

I did try to use the latest kernel from jessie-backports but the
reboot failed and I started over after I found a USB wired ethernet
adaptor in my parts box (a Cable Matters 202023 which claims it works
with all OSs) and it works great.   The wireless still is unreliable
but, in the meantime, I have taken Reco's advice and bought an Ralink
RT5370 which I trust will solve the problem when it arrives.

I too have used a couple of Dell Latitudes for a total of eight years
and have had no trouble with them, but its wired/wireless adapter is
different from the 11.

Thanks.

Best regards,

-Tom

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#179322

FromDoug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
Date2017-03-25 21:40 +0100
Message-ID<tp0DE-61l-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179305

On 03/25/2017 07:49 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 04:15 deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tom Browder wrote:
>>> Dell 1800
>> What is this Dell 1800 - what is the wireless card model and driver?
>> In the subject you ay Dell Inspiron 11, which has DW1707.
>> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Dell_Wireless_1707_(DW1707)
> The Dell Wireless 1800 is what Dell calls the wireless network adapter
> in the Dell 11 Inspiron 3000 2-in-one laptop.  There are actually at
> least three sub-models of the 11 and mine (3157, service tag FGYN52)
> has the DW1800, part number KJTH7, which uses the Debian package
> firmware-realtek.
>
> I did try to use the latest kernel from jessie-backports but the
> reboot failed and I started over after I found a USB wired ethernet
> adaptor in my parts box (a Cable Matters 202023 which claims it works
> with all OSs) and it works great.   The wireless still is unreliable
> but, in the meantime, I have taken Reco's advice and bought an Ralink
> RT5370 which I trust will solve the problem when it arrives.
>
> I too have used a couple of Dell Latitudes for a total of eight years
> and have had no trouble with them, but its wired/wireless adapter is
> different from the 11.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Tom
>
>
My Latitude E6510 produces this from lshw:
*-network
    description: Wireless interface
    product: Centrino Advanced-N 6200
    vendor: Intel Corporation

Setting up wireless was no sweat. On the other hand, I have an Inspiron 
E1505, that has
a Broadcom wireless interface, and it was a real hassle to get it to 
work! Since Broadcom
has been bought out by someone, it might now be even harder, or maybe 
impossible.

I suspect (but don't know) that the internal wireless cards are 
more-or-less interchangeable,
unless there is some specific information in the BIOS regarding the one 
that's installed.
I've heard that Dell tends to mix and match internal hardware, depending 
on what's
available or what's cheapest at the time, so perhaps there is nothing 
specific to a particular
interface in the BIOS. Perhaps you can find an interface card that will 
physically interface
your machine and see if it works. (NOT Broadcom!)

While I was trying to get the Inspiron wireless to work, I bought a 
little USB gadget that was
very small, and while it did work, it had almost no range. The internal 
wifi cards attach to
antenna wires that run up behind the screen, and this gives much better 
range.

One more thing: I have a machine that has a Broadcom chip in it, and I 
have dual-booted
Mint 17 LTS on that machine, and Mint is smart enough to find the right 
software for the
Broadcom, and Mint works out of the box on that machine. And Mint is a 
nice distro. Try it!

--doug

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#179337

FromTom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-26 03:50 +0200
Message-ID<tp5tD-VP-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#179322
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:
...
> Perhaps you can find an interface card that will
> physically interface
...
> While I was trying to get the Inspiron wireless to work, I bought a little
> USB gadget that was
> very small, and while it did work, it had almost no range. The internal wifi
> cards attach to
> antenna wires that run up behind the screen, and this gives much better
> range.
>
> One more thing: I have a machine that has a Broadcom chip in it, and I have
> dual-booted
> Mint 17 LTS on that machine, and Mint is smart enough to find the right
> software for the
> Broadcom, and Mint works out of the box on that machine. And Mint is a nice
> distro. Try it!

I have tried it, and I'm not a fan.

But thanks for the suggestions, Doug.  To your point about limited
range with a small add-on, Ben suggested a USB ethernet device that
has an antenna, and I'll try it if the small one I ordered doesn't
work.

Best regards

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