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  Sound Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-11 15:40 +0100
    Re: Sound Problem Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-11 19:50 +0100
      Re: Sound Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-11 20:10 +0100
        Re: Sound Problem Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-11 23:30 +0100
          Re: Sound Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-11 23:40 +0100
    Re: Sound Problem Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2017-03-12 00:00 +0100
      Re: Sound Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-12 18:20 +0100
        Re: Sound Problem Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> - 2017-03-12 19:10 +0100
          Re: Sound Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-03-12 19:50 +0100
      Re: Sound Problem SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 20:20 +0100

#178678 — Sound Problem

Up to date Jessie.

Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The 
sound has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.

If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2 -t
wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.

I am using the on-board sound:

01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller 
(rev a1)
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a 
correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the 
Xubuntu 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.

I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.		Life is a fuzzy set
www.molecular-modeling.net		Stochastic and multivariate
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#178688

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 09:39:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> Up to date Jessie.
> 
> Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The sound
> has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.
> 
> If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2 -t
> wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.
> 
> I am using the on-board sound:
> 
> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller (rev
> a1)
> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
> 	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> 	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
> 	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
> 	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> 
> I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a
> correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the Xubuntu
> 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.
> 
> I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.

In my experience, problems like this are nearly always problems
in software selection of output and/or mixer volumes.

The card that you are selecting there is an HDMI audio
controller, which means that it is a sound card which only
outputs through the HDMI connection going to a TV or video
monitor. Is that what you are expecting?

If, as is more usual, you are expecting to output through 1/8"
stereo jacks to self-powered speakers or 1/8" line-level stereo
to an amplifier, you need to select that sound card and use it.

aplay -L should give you a list of possible outputs, one of
which  you can then feed to speaker-test via -D to test.

Then you can set this in /etc/asound.conf as a default. Mine
says

defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.pcm.device 3
defaults.ctl.card 0

-dsr-

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#178690

On 03/11/2017 01:42 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 09:39:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>> Up to date Jessie.
>>
>> Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The sound
>> has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.
>>
>> If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2 -t
>> wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.
>>
>> I am using the on-board sound:
>>
>> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller (rev
>> a1)
>> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
>> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
>> 	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>> 	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
>> 	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
>> 	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
>> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>>
>> I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a
>> correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the Xubuntu
>> 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.
>>
>> I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.
>
> In my experience, problems like this are nearly always problems
> in software selection of output and/or mixer volumes.
>
> The card that you are selecting there is an HDMI audio
> controller, which means that it is a sound card which only
> outputs through the HDMI connection going to a TV or video
> monitor. Is that what you are expecting?
>
> If, as is more usual, you are expecting to output through 1/8"
> stereo jacks to self-powered speakers or 1/8" line-level stereo
> to an amplifier, you need to select that sound card and use it.
>
> aplay -L should give you a list of possible outputs, one of
> which  you can then feed to speaker-test via -D to test.
>
> Then you can set this in /etc/asound.conf as a default. Mine
> says
>
> defaults.pcm.card 0
> defaults.pcm.device 3
> defaults.ctl.card 0
>
> -dsr-
>
>
Thanks for the reply.  I had pretty well convinced myself that it's a 
software problem,  and therein lies the rub (or, rather a very high 
degree of entropy (mixedupness)).

Here is what might be the applicable portion on the output from aplay -L:

sysdefault:CARD=SB
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     Default Audio Device
front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     Front speakers
surround21:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0
     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
     7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers

and, this is what I get from aadebug:

0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB

                       HDA ATI SB at 0xfe300000 irq 16

also, that is what alsamixer is giving as the default.

So my degree of mental entropy is high and increasing (a thermodynamic 
requirement for an allowed process).

Your further comments will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.		Life is a fuzzy set
www.molecular-modeling.net		Stochastic and multivariate
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#178696

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 02:06:21PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> On 03/11/2017 01:42 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 09:39:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> > aplay -L should give you a list of possible outputs, one of
> > which  you can then feed to speaker-test via -D to test.
> > 
> > Then you can set this in /etc/asound.conf as a default. Mine
> > says
> > 
> > defaults.pcm.card 0
> > defaults.pcm.device 3
> > defaults.ctl.card 0
> > 
> > -dsr-
> > 
> > 
> Thanks for the reply.  I had pretty well convinced myself that it's a
> software problem,  and therein lies the rub (or, rather a very high degree
> of entropy (mixedupness)).
> 
> Here is what might be the applicable portion on the output from aplay -L:
> 
> sysdefault:CARD=SB
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Default Audio Device
> front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Front speakers
> surround21:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
> surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
> surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
> surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>     HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>     7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers

I would try 

speaker-test -D front 

and see if that comes out the right device.

-dsr-

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#178697

On 03/11/2017 05:26 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 02:06:21PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>> On 03/11/2017 01:42 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 09:39:11AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>>> aplay -L should give you a list of possible outputs, one of
>>> which  you can then feed to speaker-test via -D to test.
>>>
>>> Then you can set this in /etc/asound.conf as a default. Mine
>>> says
>>>
>>> defaults.pcm.card 0
>>> defaults.pcm.device 3
>>> defaults.ctl.card 0
>>>
>>> -dsr-
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the reply.  I had pretty well convinced myself that it's a
>> software problem,  and therein lies the rub (or, rather a very high degree
>> of entropy (mixedupness)).
>>
>> Here is what might be the applicable portion on the output from aplay -L:
>>
>> sysdefault:CARD=SB
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      Default Audio Device
>> front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      Front speakers
>> surround21:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
>> surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
>> surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
>> surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
>> surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
>> surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>>      HDA ATI SB, ALC887-VD Analog
>>      7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
>
> I would try
>
> speaker-test -D front
>
> and see if that comes out the right device.
>
> -dsr-
>
Thanks for the reply.. That resulted in the 'front right' 'front left'

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.		Life is a fuzzy set
www.molecular-modeling.net		Stochastic and multivariate
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#178698

On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 09:39 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> Up to date Jessie.
> 
> Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The 
> sound has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.
> 
> If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2
> -t
> wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.
> 
> I am using the on-board sound:
> 
> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller 
> (rev a1)
> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
> 	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> 	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
> 	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
> 	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> 
> I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a 
> correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the 
> Xubuntu 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.
> 
> I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

As you most likely have two sound cards, one on-board and one with the
video card (HDMI) it may be worthwhile installing pasystray as this may
give you better control over which card you want to use, lots of
options to reset sink, add modules etc. It helped me solve sound issues
in the past when switching between on-board headphones and HDMI to the
TV so worth a try at least.

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#178726

On 03/11/2017 05:36 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 09:39 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>> Up to date Jessie.
>>
>> Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The
>> sound has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.
>>
>> If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2
>> -t
>> wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.
>>
>> I am using the on-board sound:
>>
>> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller
>> (rev a1)
>> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
>> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
>> 	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>> 	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
>> 	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
>> 	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
>> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>>
>> I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a
>> correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the
>> Xubuntu 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.
>>
>> I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> As you most likely have two sound cards, one on-board and one with the
> video card (HDMI) it may be worthwhile installing pasystray as this may
> give you better control over which card you want to use, lots of
> options to reset sink, add modules etc. It helped me solve sound issues
> in the past when switching between on-board headphones and HDMI to the
> TV so worth a try at least.
>
>
Thanks for the suggestion.

Here's what happens:

comp@AbNormal:~$ /usr/bin/pasystray
** Message: volume:53085

Then nothing.

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.		Life is a fuzzy set
www.molecular-modeling.net		Stochastic and multivariate
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#178727

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"Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> On 03/11/2017 05:36 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
>> On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 09:39 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>>> Up to date Jessie.
>>>
>>> Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The
>>> sound has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.
>>>
>>> If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2
>>> -t
>>> wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.
>>>
>>> I am using the on-board sound:
>>>
>>> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller
>>> (rev a1)
>>> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
>>> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
>>> 	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>>> 	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
>>> 	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
>>> 	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
>>> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>>>
>>> I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a
>>> correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the
>>> Xubuntu 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>
>> As you most likely have two sound cards, one on-board and one with the
>> video card (HDMI) it may be worthwhile installing pasystray as this may
>> give you better control over which card you want to use, lots of
>> options to reset sink, add modules etc. It helped me solve sound issues
>> in the past when switching between on-board headphones and HDMI to the
>> TV so worth a try at least.
>>
>>
> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Here's what happens:
>
> comp@AbNormal:~$ /usr/bin/pasystray
> ** Message: volume:53085
>
> Then nothing.
>

To get my sound working after a reboot I have to 'sudo alsactl init'.
And then I load alsamixer, choose my soundcard and turn all bars up to
100%.

Maybe this would help solve your problem?

Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = http://www.drugfacts.org.uk  
Debian 8.6, fluxbox 1.3.5-2, emacs 25.1.1.1

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#178729

On 03/12/2017 01:59 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> writes:
>
>> On 03/11/2017 05:36 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 09:39 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>>>> Up to date Jessie.
>>>>
>>>> Sound worked until I turned power off to the external speakers.  The
>>>> sound has not been working since I turned the speakers back on.
>>>>
>>>> If I run 'speaker-test' I get noise, but if I run 'speaker-test -c 2
>>>> -t
>>>> wav' I get 'front left' and 'front right' from the speakers.
>>>>
>>>> I am using the on-board sound:
>>>>
>>>> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller
>>>> (rev a1)
>>>> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
>>>> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
>>>> 	Memory at fe080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>>>> 	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
>>>> 	Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
>>>> 	Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
>>>> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>>>>
>>>> I have proven, to my satisfaction, thanks to a suggestion from a
>>>> correspondent, that this is not a hardware problem.  I loaded the
>>>> Xubuntu 17.04 Live Desktop on the computer and the sound is live.
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate some help in solving this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As you most likely have two sound cards, one on-board and one with the
>>> video card (HDMI) it may be worthwhile installing pasystray as this may
>>> give you better control over which card you want to use, lots of
>>> options to reset sink, add modules etc. It helped me solve sound issues
>>> in the past when switching between on-board headphones and HDMI to the
>>> TV so worth a try at least.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> Here's what happens:
>>
>> comp@AbNormal:~$ /usr/bin/pasystray
>> ** Message: volume:53085
>>
>> Then nothing.
>>
>
> To get my sound working after a reboot I have to 'sudo alsactl init'.
> And then I load alsamixer, choose my soundcard and turn all bars up to
> 100%.
>
> Maybe this would help solve your problem?
>
> Sharon.
>

Many thanks to all who replied to my cry for help.

I managed to stumble on the solution by un-muting the master in alsamixer.

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.		Life is a fuzzy set
www.molecular-modeling.net		Stochastic and multivariate
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#178730

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:36:54PM +0000, Dominic Knight wrote:
 
> As you most likely have two sound cards, one on-board and one with the
> video card (HDMI) it may be worthwhile installing pasystray as this may
> give you better control over which card you want to use, lots of
> options to reset sink, add modules etc. It helped me solve sound issues
> in the past when switching between on-board headphones and HDMI to the
> TV so worth a try at least.

I 2nd Dominic's advice - My scenario as well, and when running SID at times having pasystray helped select the right card when needed. Of course now, with Stretch installed, haven't had to do this for some time. 

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