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| Started by | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| First post | 2017-02-27 14:20 +0100 |
| Last post | 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100 |
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A minimal relational database in Debian? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 14:20 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-02-27 14:30 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-02-27 15:20 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-02-27 15:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? James Allsopp <jamesaallsopp@googlemail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-27 14:50 +0100
A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 16:00 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-02-27 16:50 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 17:50 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] sunrise <sunrise@emypeople.net> - 2017-02-27 21:20 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-27 21:50 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-27 21:50 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-28 03:50 +0100
Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2017-02-28 04:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-02-27 19:10 +0100
an answer plus minimal font size (was: A minimal relational database in Debian? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-02-27 20:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-28 01:10 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-28 04:00 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2017-03-01 00:30 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 00:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-03-01 09:10 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-01 10:50 +0100
font sizes in LibreOffice (was Re: A minimal relational database in Debian) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-01 12:20 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 13:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 14:50 +0100
Contributing [was: A minimal relational database in Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 15:00 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-03-01 15:10 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-03-01 15:20 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-03-01 15:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-01 16:10 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 16:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-01 17:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 13:40 +0100
Re: bad LibreOffice font sizes (was: A minimal relational data...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-01 14:10 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:20 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 16:00 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 21:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-03 09:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-03 10:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-03-03 19:00 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-03 22:00 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-03 11:20 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-03 12:50 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100
Re: A minimal relational database in Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100
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| From | GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> |
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| Date | 2017-03-03 09:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tgR4t-728-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178330 |
I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically. I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this installation it was firsts. I am made fun of having large fonts as I refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small print. I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts. And that 130% was ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS. So, I am clueless to what you are saying! Maybe it is some desktop environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts? StretchAMD64lXde Katrin tomas@tuxteam.de: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 08:53:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 03/01/2017 08:19 AM, Bob Weber wrote: >>> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size. >>>> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor. >>>> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible. >>>> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve. >>>> I consider LibreOffice *DOA* >>>> >>> Try holding down the alt key and use the left mouse button. It should allow you >>> to move the window anywhere on the screen so you can see the button that is off >>> screen. > > Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant: > > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/ > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/ > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/ > > In a nutshell: yes, version 4 allows resizing the menu font, up to 130%, > not more; version 5 uses the menu font theme from the environment (no > way to resize explicitly: change the theme). > > It seems probable that the bug report will be met with a WONTFIX :-( > > regards > -- tomás > -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-03-03 10:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tgS0x-7G0-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178357 |
On 2017-03-03, GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> wrote: > I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically. > I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this > installation it was firsts. I am made fun of having large fonts as I > refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small Is it because of the well-known optician conspiracy (and its attempt to get us to see the world rose-colored) or is it purely out of vanity that you refuse to make a spectacles out of yourself? > print. I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find > straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts. And that 130% was > ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS. > So, I am clueless to what you are saying! Maybe it is some desktop > environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts? I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking about here, actually). -- "It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs. Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.
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| From | Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> |
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| Date | 2017-03-03 19:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tgZEK-4Br-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178358 |
Curt <curty@free.fr> writes: > On 2017-03-03, GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> wrote: > >> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically. >> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this >> installation it was firsts. I am made fun of having large fonts as I >> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small > > Is it because of the well-known optician conspiracy (and its attempt to > get us to see the world rose-colored) or is it purely out of vanity that > you refuse to make a spectacles out of yourself? > >> print. I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find >> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts. And that 130% was >> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS. > > >> So, I am clueless to what you are saying! Maybe it is some desktop >> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts? > > I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got > there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font > manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking > about here, actually). Hmmm, I just tried it (my version of LibreOffice is 1:5.2.5-1) and was able to scale well past that; I took it up to 200%. Just a warning for others, the position of the spin button appears to be fixed; at 200% scaling the label covered almost all of it, and I was just barely able to click the "down" button to recover my usual 100% scale.
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-03-03 22:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <th2sV-6Bq-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178371 |
On 2017-03-03, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >> I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got >> there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font >> manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking >> about here, actually). > > Hmmm, I just tried it (my version of LibreOffice is 1:5.2.5-1) and was > able to scale well past that; I took it up to 200%. Just a warning for > others, the position of the spin button appears to be fixed; at 200% > scaling the label covered almost all of it, and I was just barely able > to click the "down" button to recover my usual 100% scale. > > I have version 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0, so I guess you have an upscale version. -- "It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs. Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2017-03-03 11:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tgStA-8ce-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178357 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:45:00AM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically. > > I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this > installation it was firsts. I am made fun of having large fonts as I > refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small > print. I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find > straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts. And that 130% was > ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS. > So, I am clueless to what you are saying! Maybe it is some desktop > environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts? I'm not the office suite guy. I typically keep LO around for the case someone throws an Excel (or worse) at me, which I convert to some text format as quickly as possible. I tried myself (LO 5) and didn't find a way to change the menu font (at all). Then I did some research and found the links (all in the libreoffice.org namespace, so one might put some trust on them), which I repeat here for your reading convenience: > > Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant: > > > > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/ > > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/ > > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/ If I understand things correctly, 4.x had some built-in functionality to tweak the menu's font (limited to the range 80%..130%) -- that seems to be Richard's problem, while 5.x (that's your and my case) delegates this functionality to the toolkit's theme machinery, which I assume to be more or less broken in my box (I don't care very much about that), but working in yours (you possibly do). So all is well, but given the links above, it doesn't seem the LO team is willing to change anything: "works as intended", and Richard either uses his magnifying glass or another software. All is well, kinda. regards - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAli5QkEACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYskwCeNdc4W1UBS9EvNCAMUs3cmOQ6 f9MAn1RylNWqIHhwKJPNwoE4zCpJsY1m =yKhu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-03 12:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tgTSF-Aj-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178359 |
On 03/03/2017 04:15 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:45:00AM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically. >> >> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this >> installation it was firsts. I am made fun of having large fonts as I >> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small >> print. I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find >> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts. And that 130% was >> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS. >> So, I am clueless to what you are saying! Maybe it is some desktop >> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts? > > I'm not the office suite guy. I typically keep LO around for the case > someone throws an Excel (or worse) at me, which I convert to some > text format as quickly as possible. > > I tried myself (LO 5) and didn't find a way to change the menu font > (at all). Then I did some research and found the links (all in the > libreoffice.org namespace, so one might put some trust on them), which > I repeat here for your reading convenience: > >>> Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant: >>> >>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/ >>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/ >>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/ > > If I understand things correctly, 4.x had some built-in functionality > to tweak the menu's font (limited to the range 80%..130%) -- that > seems to be Richard's problem, while 5.x (that's your and my case) > delegates this functionality to the toolkit's theme machinery, which > I assume to be more or less broken in my box (I don't care very > much about that), but working in yours (you possibly do). > > So all is well, but given the links above, it doesn't seem the LO > team is willing to change anything: "works as intended", and Richard > either uses his magnifying glass or another software. > I suspect my problems revolve around still being on Jessie's LO 4.x and possibly MATE as my DE. As I have limited bandwidth that won't be changing until Stretch is released and I can purchase a set of DVD's. As to the database, some research has shown that Tcl/Tk, which I already need, can handle my particular use case.
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tg8TL-179-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178304 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 09:30:00AM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Boy Microsoft10 and Office-Access and share all your data with the > seattle bureau in a cloud and have no annoyance what so ever. Veering dangerously off-topic. But my $EMPLOYER just did that (just with the mail/groupware infrastructure). No annoyance? I'm sure those having taken the decision have no annoyance: but they don't have to actually *use* the stuff. They have their secretaries for that. As for the rest of us... - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAli2ldYACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbuQQCfTw78CMVKteMymkgbjTbfp2OH RhYAn0hCcn9u8bWeIdYIXYl50l1eOKlX =ZJQp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> |
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| Date | 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A minimal relational database in Debian |
| Message-ID | <tg8TL-179-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178304 |
Boy Microsoft10 and Office-Access and share all your data with the seattle bureau in a cloud and have no annoyance what so ever. Then pull the ethernet cable and see if your "purchased product" is still functional. Katrinity Richard Owlett: > On 02/28/2017 05:06 PM, Dominic Knight wrote: >> On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote: >>> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system >>> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size. >> >> Would temporarily changing your dpi settings work, the help is >> perfectly legible here, but I have increased dpi (96 > 132) rather than >> font size as it is an across the board improvement for my monitor size. >> > > Not sure it would be worth the annoyance. > If this problem is representative of their workmanship ... > > > > -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG
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