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  A minimal relational database in Debian? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 14:20 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-02-27 14:30 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-02-27 15:20 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-02-27 15:50 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? James Allsopp <jamesaallsopp@googlemail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:50 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-27 14:50 +0100
      A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 16:00 +0100
        Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in  Debian?] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-02-27 16:50 +0100
          Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-27 17:50 +0100
            Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in  Debian?] sunrise <sunrise@emypeople.net> - 2017-02-27 21:20 +0100
              Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-27 21:50 +0100
              Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
            Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-27 21:50 +0100
              Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-28 03:50 +0100
                Re: A cumulative reply [Re: A minimal relational database in Debian?] conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2017-02-28 04:40 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-02-27 19:10 +0100
    an answer plus minimal font size (was: A minimal relational  database in Debian? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-02-27 20:50 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-28 01:10 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-02-28 04:00 +0100
    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:40 +0100
      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2017-03-01 00:30 +0100
        Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 00:50 +0100
          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-03-01 09:10 +0100
            Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-01 10:50 +0100
            font sizes in LibreOffice (was Re: A minimal relational database in  Debian) Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-01 12:20 +0100
            Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 13:40 +0100
              Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 14:50 +0100
                Contributing [was: A minimal relational database in Debian] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 15:00 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-03-01 15:10 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-03-01 15:20 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-03-01 15:50 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-01 16:10 +0100
                  Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 16:50 +0100
                    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-01 17:40 +0100
            Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 13:40 +0100
              Re: bad LibreOffice font sizes (was: A minimal relational data...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-01 14:10 +0100
              Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:20 +0100
                Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-01 16:00 +0100
                  Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 21:40 +0100
                    Re: A minimal relational database in Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-03 09:50 +0100
                      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-03 10:50 +0100
                        Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-03-03 19:00 +0100
                          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-03-03 22:00 +0100
                      Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-03 11:20 +0100
                        Re: A minimal relational database in Debian Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-03 12:50 +0100
          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100
          Re: A minimal relational database in Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-01 10:40 +0100

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#178357 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?

StretchAMD64lXde

Katrin

tomas@tuxteam.de:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 08:53:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 03/01/2017 08:19 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
>>> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
>>>> I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
>>>> Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
>>>> Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
>>>> I consider LibreOffice *DOA*
>>>>
>>> Try holding down the alt key and use the left mouse button.  It should allow you
>>> to move the window anywhere on the screen so you can see the button that is off
>>> screen.
> 
> Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:
> 
>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
> 
> In a nutshell: yes, version 4 allows resizing the menu font, up to 130%,
> not more; version 5 uses the menu font theme from the environment (no
> way to resize explicitly: change the theme).
> 
> It seems probable that the bug report will be met with a WONTFIX :-(
> 
> regards
> -- tomás
> 

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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#178358 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 2017-03-03, GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> wrote:

> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small

Is it because of the well-known optician conspiracy (and its attempt to
get us to see the world rose-colored) or is it purely out of vanity that
you refuse to make a spectacles out of yourself?

> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.


> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?

I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got
there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font
manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking
about here, actually).

-- 
"It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the
far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs.
Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To
the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.

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#178371 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

Curt <curty@free.fr> writes:

> On 2017-03-03, GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> wrote:
>
>> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
>> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
>> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
>> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
>
> Is it because of the well-known optician conspiracy (and its attempt to
> get us to see the world rose-colored) or is it purely out of vanity that
> you refuse to make a spectacles out of yourself?
>
>> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
>> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
>> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
>
>
>> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
>> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?
>
> I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got
> there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font
> manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking
> about here, actually).

Hmmm, I just tried it (my version of LibreOffice is 1:5.2.5-1) and was
able to scale well past that; I took it up to 200%.  Just a warning for
others, the position of the spin button appears to be fixed; at 200%
scaling the label covered almost all of it, and I was just barely able
to click the "down" button to recover my usual 100% scale.

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#178382 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 2017-03-03, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

>> I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got
>> there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font
>> manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking
>> about here, actually).
>
> Hmmm, I just tried it (my version of LibreOffice is 1:5.2.5-1) and was
> able to scale well past that; I took it up to 200%.  Just a warning for
> others, the position of the spin button appears to be fixed; at 200%
> scaling the label covered almost all of it, and I was just barely able
> to click the "down" button to recover my usual 100% scale.
>
>

I have version 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0, so I guess you have an upscale version.

-- 
"It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the
far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs.
Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To
the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.

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#178359 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

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On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:45:00AM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
>
> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?

I'm not the office suite guy. I typically keep LO around for the case
someone throws an Excel (or worse) at me, which I convert to some
text format as quickly as possible.

I tried myself (LO 5) and didn't find a way to change the menu font
(at all). Then I did some research and found the links (all in the
libreoffice.org namespace, so one might put some trust on them), which
I repeat here for your reading convenience:

> > Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:
> > 
> >   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
> >   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
> >   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/

If I understand things correctly, 4.x had some built-in functionality
to tweak the menu's font (limited to the range 80%..130%) -- that
seems to be Richard's problem, while 5.x (that's your and my case)
delegates this functionality to the toolkit's theme machinery, which
I assume to be more or less broken in my box (I don't care very
much about that), but working in yours (you possibly do).

So all is well, but given the links above, it doesn't seem the LO
team is willing to change anything: "works as intended", and Richard
either uses his magnifying glass or another software.

All is well, kinda.

regards
- -- tomás
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#178361 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

On 03/03/2017 04:15 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:45:00AM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
>>
>> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
>> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
>> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
>> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
>> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
>> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
>> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
>> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?
>
> I'm not the office suite guy. I typically keep LO around for the case
> someone throws an Excel (or worse) at me, which I convert to some
> text format as quickly as possible.
>
> I tried myself (LO 5) and didn't find a way to change the menu font
> (at all). Then I did some research and found the links (all in the
> libreoffice.org namespace, so one might put some trust on them), which
> I repeat here for your reading convenience:
>
>>> Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:
>>>
>>>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
>>>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
>>>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
>
> If I understand things correctly, 4.x had some built-in functionality
> to tweak the menu's font (limited to the range 80%..130%) -- that
> seems to be Richard's problem, while 5.x (that's your and my case)
> delegates this functionality to the toolkit's theme machinery, which
> I assume to be more or less broken in my box (I don't care very
> much about that), but working in yours (you possibly do).
>
> So all is well, but given the links above, it doesn't seem the LO
> team is willing to change anything: "works as intended", and Richard
> either uses his magnifying glass or another software.
>

I suspect my problems revolve around still being on Jessie's LO 4.x and 
possibly MATE as my DE. As I have limited bandwidth that won't be 
changing until Stretch is released and I can purchase a set of DVD's.

As to the database, some research has shown that Tcl/Tk, which I already 
need, can handle my particular use case.

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#178308 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

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On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 09:30:00AM +0000, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Boy Microsoft10 and Office-Access and share all your data with the
> seattle bureau in a cloud and have no annoyance what so ever.

Veering dangerously off-topic. But my $EMPLOYER just did that (just
with the mail/groupware infrastructure).

No annoyance? I'm sure those having taken the decision have no
annoyance: but they don't have to actually *use* the stuff. They
have their secretaries for that. As for the rest of us...

- -- t
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#178309 — Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

Boy Microsoft10 and Office-Access and share all your data with the
seattle bureau in a cloud and have no annoyance what so ever.
Then pull the ethernet cable and see if your "purchased product" is
still functional.

Katrinity

Richard Owlett:
> On 02/28/2017 05:06 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
>> On Monday 27 February 2017 13:17:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I looked at at LibreOffice Base. It was unusable as its "help" system
>>> provided no intrinsic way to increase fonts to a legible size.
>>
>> Would temporarily changing your dpi settings work, the help is
>> perfectly legible here, but I have increased dpi (96 > 132) rather than
>> font size as it is an across the board improvement for my monitor size.
>>
> 
> Not sure it would be worth the annoyance.
> If this problem is representative of their workmanship ...
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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