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| Started by | Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> |
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| First post | 2017-02-15 15:40 +0100 |
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Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 15:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-15 16:00 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 16:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-16 10:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-16 10:50 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 16:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 21:30 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-15 16:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 16:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 21:30 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 01:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-02-15 16:50 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-02-15 17:00 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-15 17:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-02-15 17:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2017-02-15 19:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-15 19:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-02-15 21:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-02-16 04:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 21:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 23:50 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-16 00:00 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-16 09:30 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-16 15:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-18 10:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-25 16:50 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Mattia Oss <mais.toast@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 17:50 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-25 18:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-26 10:30 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-26 00:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Frank Lanitz <frank@frank.uvena.de> - 2017-02-16 23:30 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> - 2017-02-16 14:00 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-16 15:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-26 00:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-16 21:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> - 2017-02-17 00:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2017-02-17 01:40 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> - 2017-02-17 03:10 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-16 21:50 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2017-02-16 22:00 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-16 22:20 +0100
Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Mattia Oss <mais.toast@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 11:20 +0100
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| From | Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-15 23:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbgyC-5Uc-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177826 |
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 09:18:37PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > On 15-02-17 16:49, Tony Baldwin wrote: > > > I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64; > > It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch. > > With regards, > Paul > Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox? I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right now) Mark
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| From | Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 00:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbgIj-5XZ-53@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177837 |
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Hi, Mark On 15/02/17 19:43, Mark Fletcher wrote: >>> I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64; >> It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch. >> >> With regards, >> Paul > Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as > Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox? > > I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right > now) It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it? https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird Kind regards, Daniel
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| From | Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 09:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbpBT-3Bb-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177838 |
Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/15/17 23:52: <snip> >> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right >> now) > > It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it? > > https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird > I'm using a mixed testing/sid system and have also experienced such sudden deaths of icedove with version 45.6.0. A few hours ago I did the transition to thunderbird. It went really smooth by upgrading the iceweasel*/iceowl* packages (it makes a backup of ~/.icedove and generates a new ~/.thunderbird from that), and after using some unmarkauto/markauto and purge commands there are now only the thunderbird*/lightning* packages on the system. In my lxpanel config I had to replace icedove.desktop by thunderbird.desktop, the firefox Application "mailto" was adapted automatically. All runs smooth so far. Regards, jvp.
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| From | Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 15:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbv4B-7ic-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177846 |
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Hi, Jörg. On 16/02/17 05:26, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/15/17 23:52: > <snip> >>> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right >>> now) >> >> It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it? >> >> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird >> > I'm using a mixed testing/sid system and have also experienced such sudden > deaths of icedove with version 45.6.0. > A few hours ago I did the transition to thunderbird. It went really smooth by > upgrading the iceweasel*/iceowl* packages (it makes a backup of ~/.icedove and > generates a new ~/.thunderbird from that), and after using some > unmarkauto/markauto and purge commands there are now only the > thunderbird*/lightning* packages on the system. > In my lxpanel config I had to replace icedove.desktop by thunderbird.desktop, > the firefox Application "mailto" was adapted automatically. > All runs smooth so far. Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested by Benjamin in another message in this thread. Kind regards, Daniel
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| From | Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-02-18 10:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tc9EJ-5W-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177880 |
Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14: <snip> > Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it > remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested > by Benjamin in another message in this thread. > > Kind regards, > Daniel > Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely apply the setting of the config variable "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and smoother composition. Regards, jvp.
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| From | Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-02-25 16:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <teMLD-1Aw-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177965 |
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32: > Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14: > <snip> >> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it >> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested >> by Benjamin in another message in this thread. >> >> Kind regards, >> Daniel >> > Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and > glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely > apply the setting of the config variable > "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and > smoother composition. > Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far. Regards, jvp.
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| From | Mattia Oss <mais.toast@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-25 17:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <teNHH-2cJ-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178164 |
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 04:40:44PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32: > > Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14: > > <snip> > >> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it > >> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested > >> by Benjamin in another message in this thread. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> Daniel > >> > > Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and > > glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely > > apply the setting of the config variable > > "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and > > smoother composition. > > > Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped > "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far. > > Regards, > jvp. +1 No more crashes after 10+ days. This option is the devil himself. :) Bye, Mattia
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| From | GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> |
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| Date | 2017-02-25 18:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <teOu5-2Lw-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178166 |
And you have not updated icedove/thunderchicken in the past 10 days I assume. If you have, how can you tell that this was the fix and was not in the update? Mattia Oss: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 04:40:44PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32: >>> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14: >>>> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it >>>> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested >>>> by Benjamin in another message in this thread. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Daniel >>>> >>> Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and >>> glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely >>> apply the setting of the config variable >>> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and >>> smoother composition. >>> >> Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped >> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far. >> >> Regards, >> jvp. > > +1 > No more crashes after 10+ days. This option is the devil himself. :) > > Bye, > Mattia > -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG
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| From | Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-02-26 10:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tf3jr-4K7-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #178164 |
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/25/17 16:40: > Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32: >> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14: >> <snip> >>> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it >>> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested >>> by Benjamin in another message in this thread. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Daniel >>> >> Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and >> glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely >> apply the setting of the config variable >> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and >> smoother composition. >> > Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped > "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far. > This refers to thunderbird with lightning version 1:45.7.1-1. Regards, jvp.
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| From | Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-26 00:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <teTN7-6ve-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177838 |
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Hi again. On 15/02/17 19:52, Daniel Bareiro wrote: >> Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as >> Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox? >> >> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right >> now) > It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it? > > https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird Here is the official announcement: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/02/msg00004.html Kind regards, Daniel
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| From | Frank Lanitz <frank@frank.uvena.de> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 23:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbCIO-4eZ-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177837 |
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On 15.02.2017 23:43, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as > Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox? > > I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right > now) Well, it's also crashing like hell here (45.6.0-3) Cheers, Frank
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| From | Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 14:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbtPc-6h4-25@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177804 |
I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's config editor. -- Benjamin Rochefort http://benwen.info
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| From | Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 15:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbuUW-7dp-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177867 |
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Hi, Benjamin On 16/02/17 09:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: > I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie > by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's > config editor. Thanks for the tip. I applied this change. Let's see if it makes any difference. Kind regards, Daniel
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| From | Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-26 00:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <teTN7-6ve-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177877 |
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Hi. On 16/02/17 11:05, Daniel Bareiro wrote: >> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie >> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's >> config editor. > Thanks for the tip. I applied this change. Let's see if it makes any > difference. Although crashes continue to occur in my case, when using this option Icedove seems more stable than before. Kind regards, Daniel
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| From | Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 21:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbAH0-2V2-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177867 |
Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort: > I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie > by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's > config editor. Interesting. Why do you think this helps? How long are you running without crashes? With regards, Paul van der Vlis -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
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| From | Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> |
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| Date | 2017-02-17 00:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbDOx-4RA-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177891 |
Le 2017-02-16 à 15:20, Paul van der Vlis a écrit : > Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort: >> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie >> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's >> config editor. > > Interesting. Why do you think this helps? How long are you running > without crashes? It's been weeks, maybe even months now. I found this suggestion somewhere on the web after searching for something like 'random thunderbird crash'. I have no idea what behavior this setting controls, but setting it to false hasn't removed any visible functionality as far as I can see. -- Benjamin Rochefort http://benwen.info
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| From | Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-17 01:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbEKB-5qy-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177898 |
On 02/16/2017 06:11 PM, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: > Le 2017-02-16 à 15:20, Paul van der Vlis a écrit : >> Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort: >>> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie >>> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's >>> config editor. >> >> Interesting. Why do you think this helps? How long are you running >> without crashes? > > It's been weeks, maybe even months now. I found this suggestion > somewhere on the web after searching for something like 'random > thunderbird crash'. I have no idea what behavior this setting controls, > but setting it to false hasn't removed any visible functionality as far > as I can see. > > After changing the setting I noticed one feature was missing -- the ability of Icedove to suddenly make my desktop appear while I was trying to read messages! That's why I returned the setting to its default. I like surprises. g,d&r JP
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| From | Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> |
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| Date | 2017-02-17 03:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbG9I-6oX-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177900 |
Le 2017-02-16 à 19:40, Jape Person a écrit : > On 02/16/2017 06:11 PM, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: >> It's been weeks, maybe even months now. I found this suggestion >> somewhere on the web after searching for something like 'random >> thunderbird crash'. I have no idea what behavior this setting controls, >> but setting it to false hasn't removed any visible functionality as far >> as I can see. >> >> > After changing the setting I noticed one feature was missing -- the > ability of Icedove to suddenly make my desktop appear while I was trying > to read messages! > > That's why I returned the setting to its default. I like surprises. As they say, one man's bug is another man's feature :). -- Benjamin Rochefort http://benwen.info
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| From | Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 21:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbBa2-36l-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177867 |
On 17/02/17 01:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: > I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie > by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's > config editor. +1. I had terrible problems with icedove segfaults on sid last year and this option was the only fix that worked for me. I am still using it. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> Director Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/> New Zealand
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| From | Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-16 22:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tbBjH-3aW-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #177893 |
On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 17/02/17 01:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: >> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie >> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's >> config editor. > > +1. I had terrible problems with icedove segfaults on sid last year and > this option was the only fix that worked for me. I am still using it. > > Kind regards, > Three Debian testing systems here with same issue. This config editor setting fixed the crashing on all three systems. I reversed the setting a few weeks ago and have had a couple of Icedove crashes only on the most heavily used system. This is a rarer occurrence than it used to be. The crashes occur *only* when I have the message pane open and am moving through the message list. (I always use the keyboard arrow keys for this, so don't know if same would happen with mouse.)
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