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Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

Started byRodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com>
First post2017-02-22 22:50 +0100
Last post2017-02-25 16:10 +0100
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  Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 22:50 +0100
    Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-02-22 23:30 +0100
    Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 13:00 +0100
      Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 16:00 +0100
    Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Eero Volotinen <eero.volotinen@iki.fi> - 2017-02-23 13:40 +0100
      Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 15:30 +0100
        Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-02-23 20:50 +0100
    Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-02-23 18:00 +0100
      Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 18:40 +0100
      Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 20:40 +0100
        Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-02-24 01:40 +0100
          Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-02-24 07:20 +0100
            Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-02-24 14:50 +0100
    Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-23 21:40 +0100
    [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 09:40 +0100
      Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 10:10 +0100
        Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 12:00 +0100
          Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-25 13:30 +0100
            Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-02-25 14:00 +0100
              Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 14:10 +0100
                Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 14:30 +0100
                Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-25 23:50 +0100
                  Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 08:30 +0100
      Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 16:10 +0100

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#178159 — Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 14:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian
Message-ID<teKAa-8nO-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178158
Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> So, generally speaking, how do I know what to choose?  How do I check if
> my machine is `64 or 32 bit', and what of all those different Debian .isos
> to install?

In general you would install 64bit amd64 to modern 64bit
architecture/machine - it might be intel or amd.
If you want to run 32bit on 64bit you would enable multi-arch and install
32bit dependencies.

The advantage is that you would use 100% of the hardware capability and
still 32bit would run, so pick up simply the amd64 iso.

regards

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#178171 — Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2017-02-25 23:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian
Message-ID<teTk6-659-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178158
On 26/02/17 02:04, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> How do I check if my machine is `64 or 32 bit'

I use "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'", to find the model name 
and look it up on Wikipedia or Google for the manufacturer data sheet. 
64-bit support is often called "AMD64", or "x86-64" by non-AMD 
manufacturers.

If the "flags" section contains "lm", your CPU has 64-bit support, but 
might be IA64 (Itanium, Intel's 64-bit server architecture) rather than 
AMD64 (which Intel itself now uses). I find it easier to Google for the 
model as described above.

Most consumer desktop CPUs manufactured in the last five years have 
amd64 support, including, as far as I know, all Intel Core 2 Intel 
processors (since 2006), even the budget models with Pentium or Celeron 
branding. Some Atom CPUs support 64-bit, but not the earliest models.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#178249 — Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

FromRodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-28 08:30 +0100
SubjectRe: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian
Message-ID<tfKop-1dc-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178171
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> writes:

> On 26/02/17 02:04, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> How do I check if my machine is `64 or 32 bit'
>
> I use "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'", to find the model name and
> look it up on Wikipedia or Google for the manufacturer data sheet. 64-bit
> support is often called "AMD64", or "x86-64" by non-AMD manufacturers.
>
> If the "flags" section contains "lm", your CPU has 64-bit support, but might
> be IA64 (Itanium, Intel's 64-bit server architecture) rather than AMD64
> (which Intel itself now uses). I find it easier to Google for the model as
> described above.
>
> Most consumer desktop CPUs manufactured in the last five years have amd64
> support, including, as far as I know, all Intel Core 2 Intel processors
> (since 2006), even the budget models with Pentium or Celeron branding. Some
> Atom CPUs support 64-bit, but not the earliest models.

I found it easy:

 # aptitude install lshw
 $ lshw -c cpu

and look at `width'.

Cheers,

Rodolfo

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#178163 — Re: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 16:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [solved?] Re: Secure Boot won't let boot into Debian
Message-ID<teM8W-1cs-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178147
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 08:36:04 +0000 Rodolfo Medina
<rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > I frehly installed Debian Sid in dual boot with Windows 10 on my
> > brand new Lenovo desktop pc but it won't boot into Debian system I
> > suspect because of the new Secure Boot policy.  I want to disable
> > it but the problem is that there's no Secure Boot option anywhere
> > in its Bios.  In fact, in the Security submenu, there are only the
> > options for administrator and power-on password setting.
> >
> > What do you suggest me to do?
> 
> 
> I tried to install Debian again so to do as suggested by Pascal,
> i.e.  install GRUB in the "removable path"; but this time strangely
> the installation wouldn't proceed up to end and stopped at a certain
> point.  Then I was tired with all that stuff, all those Legacy
> problems and so on, and did GiaThnYgeia's way and formatted the drive
> and got rid of that stupid system it came with: now Debian runs
> without problems.  I left some free space on disk so to install
> Windows 10 later on...  maybe ;-)

I would just install Windows 10 in a virtual machine like VirtualBox
with Debian as the host. No need for dual booting.  Although you may
have to contact Microsoft directly to get W10 authenicated.  You'll
need sufficient RAM, too.

B

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