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stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid

Started byFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
First post2017-02-18 06:20 +0100
Last post2017-02-18 11:10 +0100
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  stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-02-18 06:20 +0100
    Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-02-18 06:30 +0100
      Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-02-18 06:40 +0100
        Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-02-18 12:20 +0100
          Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-02-18 13:10 +0100
    Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2017-02-18 10:30 +0100
    Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-18 10:50 +0100
    Re: stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-02-18 11:10 +0100

#177958 — stretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2017-02-18 06:20 +0100
Subjectstretch apt-get -u dist-upgrade does not result in sid
Message-ID<tc5B7-5Vg-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean, then apt-get 
update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version and /etc/issue still say I 
have 9.0. Can held back non-essential packages stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and 
mc-lang 4.8.17 have been held back by me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is 
this why I don't seem to have sid?
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#177959

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2017-02-18 06:30 +0100
Message-ID<tc5KN-61e-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177958
On Saturday 18 February 2017 00:10:00 Felix Miata wrote:

> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean, then
> apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version and
> /etc/issue still say I have 9.0. Can held back non-essential packages
> stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and mc-lang 4.8.17 have been held back by
> me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is this why I don't seem to have
> sid?

File the bug. Its pretty likely.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#177960

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2017-02-18 06:40 +0100
Message-ID<tc5Ut-63Y-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177959
Gene Heskett composed on 2017-02-18 00:25 (UTC-0500):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean, then
>> apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version and
>> /etc/issue still say I have 9.0. Can held back non-essential packages
>> stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and mc-lang 4.8.17 have been held back by
>> me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is this why I don't seem to have
>> sid?

> File the bug. Its pretty likely.

File which bug? mc-4.8.19 is fixed.
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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#177970

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2017-02-18 12:20 +0100
Message-ID<tcbdw-1bq-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177960
On Saturday 18 February 2017 00:33:32 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2017-02-18 00:25 (UTC-0500):
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean,
> >> then apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version
> >> and /etc/issue still say I have 9.0. Can held back non-essential
> >> packages stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and mc-lang 4.8.17 have been
> >> held back by me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is this why I
> >> don't seem to have sid?
> >
> > File the bug. Its pretty likely.
>
> File which bug? mc-4.8.19 is fixed.

But is it in a repo you can access?


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#177972

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2017-02-18 13:10 +0100
Message-ID<tcbZU-1Lk-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177970
Gene Heskett composed on 2017-02-18 06:09 (UTC-0500):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Gene Heskett composed on 2017-02-18 00:25 (UTC-0500):

>> > Felix Miata wrote:

>> >> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean,
>> >> then apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version
>> >> and /etc/issue still say I have 9.0. Can held back non-essential
>> >> packages stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and mc-lang 4.8.17 have been
>> >> held back by me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is this why I
>> >> don't seem to have sid?

>> > File the bug. Its pretty likely.

>> File which bug? mc-4.8.19 is fixed.

> But is it in a repo you can access?

Probably not. It hasn't been released yet.
-- 
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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#177962

FromFloris <jkfloris@dds.nl>
Date2017-02-18 10:30 +0100
Message-ID<tc9v4-8tW-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177958
Op Sat, 18 Feb 2017 06:10:00 +0100 schreef Felix Miata  
<mrmazda@earthlink.net>:

> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean, then  
> apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version and  
> /etc/issue still say I have 9.0. Can held back non-essential packages  
> stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and mc-lang 4.8.17 have been held back by  
> me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is this why I don't seem to have  
> sid?

sid doesn't have a version number

stretch and sid both use the same base-file package, so  
/etc/debian_version is the same
http://sources.debian.net/src/base-files/

Floris

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#177967

FromJörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de>
Date2017-02-18 10:50 +0100
Message-ID<tc9Op-b9-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177958
Felix Miata wrote on 02/18/17 06:10:
> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean, then apt-get
> update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version and /etc/issue still say I
> have 9.0. Can held back non-essential packages stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and
> mc-lang 4.8.17 have been held back by me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is
> this why I don't seem to have sid?

The file /etc/issue belongs to package base-files (dpkg -S /etc/issue)
There is no newer version of this package in sid than that of testing which is
version 9.8. Therefore, you see "9.0" in /etc/issue.

More helpful is apt-show-versions (from the package with the same name):

$ apt-show-versions | grep unstable

To find out if some packages are still upgradeable, order

$ apt-show-versions -u

Regards,
jvp.

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#177968

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2017-02-18 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<tca7M-xi-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177958
On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 00:10:00 -0500
Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I changed sources.list to point only to sid, then apt-get clean, then
> apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-upgrade. /etc/debian_version
> and /etc/issue still say I have 9.0. Can held back non-essential
> packages stonewall a dist-upgrade? mc and mc-lang 4.8.17 have been
> held back by me manually because 4.8.18 is broken. Is this why I
> don't seem to have sid?

What is the boot console banner?

Unstable is always named as "<testing>/sid", even with a minimal
stable installation followed by immediate upgrade to unstable. The
version number will always be that of testing, unstable doesn't have
its own number.

Also try a grep for distro in /var/log/messages. There should be a
90linux-distro: result: line. But if the sources.list contains only
unstable or sid, that's what you will get. Once you've done an update,
apt doesn't know about the testing repositories any more.

Until the freeze, most packages will be the same in sid as in testing,
generally anything that survives without major breakage in sid for
about ten days gets moved on. Did you get a larger than normal upgrade
when you did the dist-upgrade? Make an upgrade now and note any changed
version: check with the Debian packages search to see which
distribution the new one comes from.

-- 
Joe

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