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  Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. "Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)" <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2017-02-17 09:20 +0100
    Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Andre Müller <gbs.deadeye@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:40 +0100
      Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Stephen Powell <zlinuxman@fastmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:50 +0100
        Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 13:20 +0100
          Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-02-17 16:30 +0100
            Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-02-17 16:40 +0100
          Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-17 19:40 +0100
      Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-02-17 13:30 +0100
        Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 13:50 +0100
        Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Andre Müller <gbs.deadeye@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:10 +0100
          Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-17 19:50 +0100
            Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Andre Müller <gbs.deadeye@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 20:20 +0100
              Printing from feh Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-02-17 21:00 +0100
                Re: Printing from feh Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-02-18 22:10 +0100
                  Re: Printing from feh Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-02-19 00:00 +0100
          Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-02-18 01:10 +0100
            Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-02-18 01:30 +0100
              Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 09:50 +0100
                Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-02-18 10:30 +0100
                  Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-18 13:10 +0100
                  Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 17:10 +0100
              Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. Andre Müller <gbs.deadeye@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:30 +0100
                Re: Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please.. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 17:20 +0100

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#177903 — Last spam: Let me know Munich Mayor's email address, please..

Last night, i saw from SoftPedia sad news: "Linux Pioneer Munich Makes
Huge Step Towards Returning to Windows.". I do not want this story. I
will send him (Munich Mayor) my message. At Munich City sites, i did
fail to search Mayor's email address. 

Windows10 is evil.

Respect,
Byung-Hee from South Korea
 
-- 
^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#177911

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Greetings to South Korea,

i think you can contact the Munich Mayor at buero.ob@muenchen.de

They are corrupt and do not work for the people.
They work for companies and this decision about Limux is not the only bad
decision they made.

The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our own
constitution.
This is the only way to change the whole system. I'm sick of it and many
people in whole
Europe also.

Fuck politicians, die in pain, burn in hell!

Andre Müller

Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> schrieb am Fr., 17. Feb.
2017 um 09:10 Uhr:

> Last night, i saw from SoftPedia sad news: "Linux Pioneer Munich Makes
> Huge Step Towards Returning to Windows.". I do not want this story. I
> will send him (Munich Mayor) my message. At Munich City sites, i did
> fail to search Mayor's email address.
>
> Windows10 is evil.
>
> Respect,
> Byung-Hee from South Korea
>
> --
> ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//
>
>

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#177912

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, at 04:30, Andre Müller wrote:
> 
> The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our own
> constitution.
> This is the only way to change the whole system. I'm sick of it and many
> people in whole
> Europe also.

And as for the United States, do we not have the best Congress money can buy?

-- 
  .''`.     Stephen Powell    <zlinuxman@fastmail.com>
 : :'  :
 `. `'`
   `-

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#177917

On Friday 17 February 2017 09:43:16 Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, at 04:30, Andre Müller wrote:
> > The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our own
> > constitution.
> > This is the only way to change the whole system. I'm sick of it and many
> > people in whole
> > Europe also.
>
> And as for the United States, do we not have the best Congress money can
> buy?

No.  But you have very good golf clubs.

Lisi

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#177930

On Friday 17 February 2017 07:17:21 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Friday 17 February 2017 09:43:16 Stephen Powell wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, at 04:30, Andre Müller wrote:
> > > The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our
> > > own constitution.
> > > This is the only way to change the whole system. I'm sick of it
> > > and many people in whole
> > > Europe also.
> >
> > And as for the United States, do we not have the best Congress money
> > can buy?
>
> No.  But you have very good golf clubs.
>
> Lisi

That may be true, but I am driven to quote Benjamin Franklin here, 
with "Democracy is a very bad form of government, but all the others are 
so much worse."

Whats missing in our constitution is a mandated swamp draining, some 
method of disabling the "revolving chairs" we seem to have. They serve 
in such and such a position in some agency that the public has zero 
control of, until they've used up their allotted time or term limit, and 
just step across the hall to a different agency until they fall over.  

Seriously, we need brand new blood.  The founders I believe wanted a 
certain continuity, by setting senate terms to 6 years, with the guys in 
the last two years of their term serving as teachers to those in the 
first 2 years of their 6 year term. However it seems to have 
degenerated, with continuity of POWER being the main job for the whole 6 
year term.  Serving the country seems to be a distant 2nd place in their 
thoughts.

So yes, we need the swamp drained, it has quite a few unsavory occupants 
at the moment.

Trump is "learning on the job", and looks to be a loose cannon so far. 
But he genuinely does want to improve things. One of his serious 
problems is going to be seat warmers in a cabinet meeting. I don't look 
for a single chair to be warmed by the same butt for all of his 4 years. 
And I expect his currently dismal ratings will improve.  If he can push 
an improvement we can feel, he might get another 4 years.  Time will of 
course write that bit of history.  Likely, because of my age, without me 
to do a critique.

Walt Kelly also wrote the definitive definition of the word "enemy" when 
he said "we have met the enemy, and he is us."  Truer words haven't been 
written since.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#177931

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:25:41AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> That may be true, but I am driven to quote Benjamin Franklin here, 
> with "Democracy is a very bad form of government, but all the others are 
> so much worse."

You're thinking of Winston Churchill: "Indeed, it has been said that
democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms
that have been tried from time to time."

See also https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#Misattributed

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#177939

Lisi Reisz:
> On Friday 17 February 2017 09:43:16 Stephen Powell wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, at 04:30, Andre Müller wrote:
>>> I'm sick of it and many
>>> people in whole
>>> Europe also.
>>
>> And as for the United States, do we not have the best Congress money can
>> buy?
> 
> No.  But you have very good golf clubs.
> 
> Lisi

Here in Uruguay only foreigners would want to overthrow government.  We
like our government very much, we are very happy with it.  We don't mind
sending almost all of our products to the US and EU, for exchange of
some stupid plastic/electric gadgets and little bit of fuel, it is OK.
We get by fine.  There is good government after all, maybe, or is there?
 Ohh.. well ... what are Golf clubs?  VW Golf owners' clubs?  We have VW
beetles here and the president likes the beatles and the ex-presdent
drove around in one.

No Trump .... keep him North of Mexico.
Viva Uruguay

PS  Hijacking thread - what a thread - kali is based on Debian but it is
focused on security, which anonymity is part of the issue, but their
webpages are unreachable unless you have -scripts- enabled on your
browser.  What's up wit dat?  They want to penetrate you because you
have an interest on their penetrating system?  Tell your mayor to use
it, here in Uruguay hommie don't play dat!  And what's up with all their
linux4.9 variants in their repository?  ;)  Berkeley Xercley ... Trumpland!


-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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#177918

Le nonidi 29 pluviôse, an CCXXV, Andre Müller a écrit :
> The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our own
> constitution.

And your own constitution will need politicians of its own to work. And
they too, after the first few decades, will be corrupt, because "power
attracts the corruptible".

(Strange, I knew that quote from Mother Superior Darwi Odrade in Frank
Herbert's _Chapterhouse: Dune_, but I see it attributed too to David
Brin's _The Postman_, that came out also in 1985. Funny.)

If you design the constitution very carefully to avoid that, then maybe
the result will be slightly better than what we have to day. On the
other hand, if you do your revolution without learning from History, the
eventual result will likely be much worse.

Well, this is completely off-topic, sorry for the inconvenience, I do
not intend to continue on the matter.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#177921

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What is this pseuds-corner  spam fritter stuff?

MF

On 17 February 2017 at 12:05, Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:

> Le nonidi 29 pluviôse, an CCXXV, Andre Müller a écrit :
> > The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our own
> > constitution.
>
> And your own constitution will need politicians of its own to work. And
> they too, after the first few decades, will be corrupt, because "power
> attracts the corruptible".
>
> (Strange, I knew that quote from Mother Superior Darwi Odrade in Frank
> Herbert's _Chapterhouse: Dune_, but I see it attributed too to David
> Brin's _The Postman_, that came out also in 1985. Funny.)
>
> If you design the constitution very carefully to avoid that, then maybe
> the result will be slightly better than what we have to day. On the
> other hand, if you do your revolution without learning from History, the
> eventual result will likely be much worse.
>
> Well, this is completely off-topic, sorry for the inconvenience, I do
> not intend to continue on the matter.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>   Nicolas George
>
> ​​

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Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> schrieb am Fr., 17. Feb. 2017 um 13:24 Uhr:

> Le nonidi 29 pluviôse, an CCXXV, Andre Müller a écrit :
> > The day comes closer, that we remove all politicians and do our own
> > constitution.
>
> And your own constitution will need politicians of its own to work. And
> they too, after the first few decades, will be corrupt, because "power
> attracts the corruptible".
>
>
> We've made already a basic constitution which declares what a human is,
that the natural person is hold by the human etc.

We don't want to have politicians and their parties. The sense behind a
party is, to split the people. We wan't to have officials who are protected
by the state with special rights and hard punishment if they fail
(corruption for example). Further we want to nationalize the banking
system, water supply, energy supply, infrastructure and many other
important things.

My personal will is: Enforcement of OpenSource in public official entities.
The state pays developers who do the software for the management of the
state and smaller entities. All have to be published under a free
OpenSource License. Closed Source will be forbidden in official entities.

You never never can do this with politicians. Their only job is to talk the
whole day bullshit and lie to the people and those who are good politicians
do not have the force.

But the people do have the force, the ideas and the rights. Also
politicians are invited to work on their constitution, but they are
ignoring us. They don't want to lose their good position. This is the
bullet point. When enough people voted for a constitution, all politicians
are fired. Then they can look for new challenges or just live their life.

You can get more information on our page:
http://verfassunggebende-versammlung.org (of course it's in german)

<http://verfassunggebende-versammlung.org>
We do not grow fast, but we grow. We've many people with good ideas like
how to improve education, how to make a better finance system.

Our destination is, that all people can live their life in freedom without
supporting war against other countries. People never want to have war.

All people around the planet should do a constitution. There is nothing
higher than a constitution. It's prohibited to enforce any kind of limits
from outside.

I hope you understand my writing. Even it's hard to explain it in german.

Greetings
Andre Müller

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#177941

Andre Müller:
> Our destination is, that all people can live their life in freedom without
> supporting war against other countries. People never want to have war.

Yes but do you want equality?  You give me half of your Euros I'll give
you have of my Uruguayan pesetas.  Then there will be no war, no reason
for war.  If you want to be free but you want the army to enforce
maximum inequality go to Trump's land.  It is the most freedom you can
have with your wallet on.

> All people around the planet should do a constitution. There is nothing
> higher than a constitution. It's prohibited to enforce any kind of limits
> from outside.

Or should do with out one.  The aliens are watching your every move as
we speak.  Last time you guys got frustrated and came up with ideas it
took the whole red army to come in and control you.  And they are no
angels, let me tell ya.

> I hope you understand my writing. Even it's hard to explain it in german.

I have John Cleese here next to me, he says "don't talk about ze war in
front of the bloody Germans".

> Greetings
> Andre Müller

Hey Andre, just joking don't take it personally, when in Uruguay look me up!



-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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GiaThnYgeia:

> Yes but do you want equality?  You give me half of your Euros I'll give
> you have of my Uruguayan pesetas.  Then there will be no war, no reason
> for war.  If you want to be free but you want the army to enforce
> maximum inequality go to Trump's land.  It is the most freedom you can
> have with your wallet on.
>

No way. The Euro was a big mistake. You need your currency, we need our own.
The Euro has winners (Germany and the elite) and losers (the rest).


> > All people around the planet should do a constitution. There is nothing
> > higher than a constitution. It's prohibited to enforce any kind of limits
> > from outside.
>
> Or should do with out one.  The aliens are watching your every move as
> we speak.  Last time you guys got frustrated and came up with ideas it
> took the whole red army to come in and control you.  And they are no
> angels, let me tell ya.
>

No, you can't do one constitution for all humans on the world, because they
have different cultures, different places where they live and different
conditions. I think this could be the next step, but not in my lifetime.
I'm lucky when we've evolved our constitution in my lifetime.

If there are aliens, a tip: Don't visit us. You'll be killed by NATO :-D
Just wait if you want to overtake the planet. If nothing changes, we're
destroying our self and planet earth is yours.

> I hope you understand my writing. Even it's hard to explain it in german.
>
> I have John Cleese here next to me, he says "don't talk about ze war in
> front of the bloody Germans".
>
> > Greetings
> > Andre Müller
>
> Hey Andre, just joking don't take it personally, when in Uruguay look me
> up!
> --
>  "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG
>

It's ok :-)
The topic is very dry and hard to understand because you have to make
a step to the side and to call everything to into question.

The propaganda in the west is very far. If you're a german and want to be
accepted in the society, you have to:

- hate all Russian people, because they are evil!
- Putin is evil! There was a comparison to Hitler in our media.
- Putin commanded the bad weather in Germany
- In Syria is still war going on
- all refuges are welcome
- USA is good, Trump is bad. You've to hate Trump as a German!
- we've a degrading demographic progress, weeeeee neeed refugeeeees
- all refuges are special educated people!
- the media says always the truth and the internet is making all the fake
news
- Putin hacked USA
- Putin commanded the fake news!
- all people who are telling the opposite, are Reich citizens, Nazis,
Esotericist Nazis and spiritual Nazis
- if you talk to Nazis, you'll get sick and will be converted also into a
Nazi


Greetings
Andre Müller

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#177949 — Printing from feh

On Fri 17 Feb 2017 at 19:11:29 +0000, Andre Müller wrote:

> It's ok :-)
> The topic is very dry and hard to understand because you have to make
> a step to the side and to call everything to into question.

That is what is on my mind too. Feh is a nice image viewer but it
appears to have no printing facility. Is there a way of printing
a displayed image from within the program?

-- 
Brian.

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#177981 — Re: Printing from feh

It looks like it should be possible, using the --action options. Try
setting Action 1 to something like lpr, then press 1 while viewing an image.


On 17/02/17 19:54, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 17 Feb 2017 at 19:11:29 +0000, Andre Müller wrote:
>
>> It's ok :-)
>> The topic is very dry and hard to understand because you have to make
>> a step to the side and to call everything to into question.
> That is what is on my mind too. Feh is a nice image viewer but it
> appears to have no printing facility. Is there a way of printing
> a displayed image from within the program?
>

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#177983 — Re: Printing from feh

On Sat 18 Feb 2017 at 21:02:30 +0000, Darac Marjal wrote:

> It looks like it should be possible, using the --action options. Try
> setting Action 1 to something like lpr, then press 1 while viewing an image.
> 
> On 17/02/17 19:54, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 17 Feb 2017 at 19:11:29 +0000, Andre Müller wrote:
> >
> >> It's ok :-)
> >> The topic is very dry and hard to understand because you have to make
> >> a step to the side and to call everything to into question.
> > That is what is on my mind too. Feh is a nice image viewer but it
> > appears to have no printing facility. Is there a way of printing
> > a displayed image from within the program?

A spot-on suggestion. I ended up with /usr/local/bin/feh with
the contents

  /usr/bin/feh --action "xpp %f" "$1"

Then took it a step further and rebound action_0 to ctrl-P to fit with
other applications. In .config/feh/keys:

  action_0
  action_0 C-p

"xpp %f" can be replaced with a printing command of your choice. It's
not so hard to print from an image viewer without its own printing
dialog after all.

Thanks.

-- 
Brian.

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#177955

On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:07:13 +0000
Andre Müller <gbs.deadeye@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can get more information on our page:
> http://verfassunggebende-versammlung.org (of course it's in german)

Hahaha, I wish you guys a lot of fun in your parallel universe! ;-)

And a word to all non-german users here: apparently Andre and his
"Verfassungsgebende Versammlung" are part of a small but nontheless
well-known phenomenon of recent political sects in Germany commonly
referred to as "Reichsbürger", who, as a common base, neglect the legal
existence of the Federal Republic of Germany and declare their own
fantasy-nations instead (although from a quick glance at the linked page I
admit that their point of view seems somwhat original within this
context). For a brief introduction you might want to read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsb%C3%BCrgerbewegung
before proceeding with elaborate political discussions with him.

Regards

Michael

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Without followers, evil cannot spread.
		-- Spock, "And The Children Shall Lead", stardate 5029.5

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#177957

On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 00:42:34 +0100
Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> wrote:

> referred to as "Reichsbürger", who, as a common base, neglect the legal
> existence of the Federal Republic of Germany and declare their own

Oops, I guess I picked the wrong English word, I guess it should rather
read "deny the legal existence..." :-)



.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

Genius doesn't work on an assembly line basis.  You can't simply say,
"Today I will be brilliant."
		-- Kirk, "The Ultimate Computer", stardate 4731.3

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#177961

Michael Lange wrote:

> Oops, I guess I picked the wrong English word, I guess it should rather
> read "deny the legal existence..."

You know Germany is still occupied by the USA as there is no legal document
for the opposite. I am not sure who is living in the real world - you or
they. IMO the truth is somewhere in the middle.
In return you may check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave
and be more polite and show some more respect towards different opinions.

regards

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#177964

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On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 09:26:47AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Michael Lange wrote:
> 
> > Oops, I guess I picked the wrong English word, I guess it should rather
> > read "deny the legal existence..."
> 
> You know Germany is still occupied by the USA [...]
> IMO the truth is somewhere in the middle.

No. You don't define truth as "arithmetic means between realities", unless
you've convinced yourself the deviations follow a normal distribution.

> In return you may check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave
> and be more polite and show some more respect towards different opinions.

Or alternate realities.

I don't think you want to go there (especially when the above mentioned
Reichsbürger have been caught hoarding weapons and when one of them has
already shot a cop dead.

I bow out.
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#177971

I apologize for feeding the trolls, you may say I have a soft spot for
strays.

tomas@tuxteam.de:
> No. You don't define truth as "arithmetic means between realities", unless
> you've convinced yourself the deviations follow a normal distribution.

I liked this part better than any practical advise on deb.sys,admin ever.

> I don't think you want to go there (especially when the above mentioned
> Reichsbürger have been caught hoarding weapons and when one of them has
> already shot a cop dead.

Not all people who shot cops are good people, is this what you are
saying?  But let's make a mini sublist somewhere else and discuss this.

> I bow out.

Eject, eject

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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