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Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

Started byPaul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl>
First post2017-02-15 15:40 +0100
Last post2017-02-17 11:20 +0100
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  Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 15:40 +0100
    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-15 16:00 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 16:20 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-16 10:20 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-16 10:50 +0100
    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 16:10 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 21:30 +0100
    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-15 16:10 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 16:40 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 21:30 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 01:20 +0100
    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-02-15 16:50 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-02-15 17:00 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-15 17:10 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-02-15 17:20 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2017-02-15 19:10 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-15 19:40 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-02-15 21:40 +0100
            Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-02-16 04:10 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-15 21:20 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 23:50 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-16 00:00 +0100
            Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-16 09:30 +0100
              Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-16 15:20 +0100
                Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-18 10:40 +0100
                  Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-25 16:50 +0100
                    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Mattia Oss <mais.toast@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 17:50 +0100
                      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-25 18:40 +0100
                    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-02-26 10:30 +0100
            Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-26 00:20 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Frank Lanitz <frank@frank.uvena.de> - 2017-02-16 23:30 +0100
    Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> - 2017-02-16 14:00 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-16 15:10 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2017-02-26 00:20 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2017-02-16 21:20 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> - 2017-02-17 00:40 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2017-02-17 01:40 +0100
            Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Benjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info> - 2017-02-17 03:10 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-16 21:50 +0100
        Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2017-02-16 22:00 +0100
          Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-02-16 22:20 +0100
      Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch Mattia Oss <mais.toast@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 11:20 +0100

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#177837

FromMark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-15 23:50 +0100
Message-ID<tbgyC-5Uc-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177826
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 09:18:37PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> On 15-02-17 16:49, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> > I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64;
> 
> It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch.
> 
> With regards,
> Paul
> 

Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as 
Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox?

I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
now)

Mark

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#177838

FromDaniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net>
Date2017-02-16 00:00 +0100
Message-ID<tbgIj-5XZ-53@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi, Mark

On 15/02/17 19:43, Mark Fletcher wrote:

>>> I am using Jessie, Icedove v. 45.6.0 at the moment, on AMD64;

>> It's a known bug in Jessie. My question is about Stretch.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Paul

> Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as 
> Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox?
> 
> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
> now)

It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it?

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird


Kind regards,
Daniel

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#177846

FromJörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de>
Date2017-02-16 09:30 +0100
Message-ID<tbpBT-3Bb-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177838
Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/15/17 23:52:
<snip>
>> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
>> now)
> 
> It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it?
> 
> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird
> 
I'm using a mixed testing/sid system and have also experienced such sudden
deaths of icedove with version 45.6.0.
A few hours ago I did the transition to thunderbird. It went really smooth by
upgrading the iceweasel*/iceowl* packages (it makes a backup of ~/.icedove and
generates a new ~/.thunderbird from that), and after using some
unmarkauto/markauto and purge commands there are now only the
thunderbird*/lightning* packages on the system.
In my lxpanel config I had to replace icedove.desktop by thunderbird.desktop,
the firefox Application "mailto" was adapted automatically.
All runs smooth so far.

Regards,
jvp.

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#177880

FromDaniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net>
Date2017-02-16 15:20 +0100
Message-ID<tbv4B-7ic-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi, Jörg.

On 16/02/17 05:26, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/15/17 23:52:
> <snip>
>>> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
>>> now)
>>
>> It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it?
>>
>> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird
>>
> I'm using a mixed testing/sid system and have also experienced such sudden
> deaths of icedove with version 45.6.0.
> A few hours ago I did the transition to thunderbird. It went really smooth by
> upgrading the iceweasel*/iceowl* packages (it makes a backup of ~/.icedove and
> generates a new ~/.thunderbird from that), and after using some
> unmarkauto/markauto and purge commands there are now only the
> thunderbird*/lightning* packages on the system.
> In my lxpanel config I had to replace icedove.desktop by thunderbird.desktop,
> the firefox Application "mailto" was adapted automatically.
> All runs smooth so far.

Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it
remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested
by Benjamin in another message in this thread.

Kind regards,
Daniel

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#177965

FromJörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de>
Date2017-02-18 10:40 +0100
Message-ID<tc9EJ-5W-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177880
Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14:
<snip>
> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it
> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested
> by Benjamin in another message in this thread.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
> 
Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and
glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely
apply the setting of the config variable
"layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and
smoother composition.

Regards,
jvp.

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#178164

FromJörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de>
Date2017-02-25 16:50 +0100
Message-ID<teMLD-1Aw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177965
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32:
> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14:
> <snip>
>> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it
>> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested
>> by Benjamin in another message in this thread.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Daniel
>>
> Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and
> glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely
> apply the setting of the config variable
> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and
> smoother composition.
> 
Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped
"layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far.

Regards,
jvp.

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#178166

FromMattia Oss <mais.toast@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-25 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<teNHH-2cJ-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178164
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 04:40:44PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32:
> > Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14:
> > <snip>
> >> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it
> >> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested
> >> by Benjamin in another message in this thread.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Daniel
> >>
> > Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and
> > glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely
> > apply the setting of the config variable
> > "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and
> > smoother composition.
> > 
> Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped
> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far.
> 
> Regards,
> jvp.

+1 
No more crashes after 10+ days. This option is the devil himself. :)

Bye,
Mattia

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#178167

FromGiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org>
Date2017-02-25 18:40 +0100
Message-ID<teOu5-2Lw-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178166
And you have not updated icedove/thunderchicken in the past 10 days I
assume.  If you have, how can you tell that this was the fix and was not
in the update?

Mattia Oss:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 04:40:44PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32:
>>> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14:
>>>> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it
>>>> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested
>>>> by Benjamin in another message in this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>> Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and
>>> glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely
>>> apply the setting of the config variable
>>> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and
>>> smoother composition.
>>>
>> Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped
>> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far.
>>
>> Regards,
>> jvp.
> 
> +1 
> No more crashes after 10+ days. This option is the devil himself. :)
> 
> Bye,
> Mattia
> 

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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#178180

FromJörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de>
Date2017-02-26 10:30 +0100
Message-ID<tf3jr-4K7-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#178164
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/25/17 16:40:
> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 02/18/17 10:32:
>> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 02/16/17 15:14:
>> <snip>
>>> Thanks for sharing your experience. It would be good to know if it
>>> remains stable after several days. I just applied the change suggested
>>> by Benjamin in another message in this thread.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>> Meanwhile I had the first crash of thunderbird. After updating some gtk- and
>> glib related stuff I'm trying it again. If thunderbird still crashes, I surely
>> apply the setting of the config variable
>> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" (OMTC) which is enabled for faster and
>> smoother composition.
>>
> Since I suffered another crash of thunderbird, I now flipped
> "layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled" to "false". No more crashes so far.
> 
This refers to thunderbird with lightning version 1:45.7.1-1.

Regards,
jvp.

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#178173

FromDaniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net>
Date2017-02-26 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<teTN7-6ve-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177838

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Hi again.

On 15/02/17 19:52, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

>> Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as 
>> Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox?
>>
>> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
>> now)

> It looks like it's currently in Sid. Has anyone tried it?
> 
> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=thunderbird

Here is the official announcement:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/02/msg00004.html


Kind regards,
Daniel

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#177897

FromFrank Lanitz <frank@frank.uvena.de>
Date2017-02-16 23:30 +0100
Message-ID<tbCIO-4eZ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177837

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On 15.02.2017 23:43, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> Isn't there a plan to migrate back to Thunderbird anyway, just as 
> Iceweasel has been replaced with firefox?
> 
> I wonder if stretch has thunderbird packages? (no time to check right 
> now)

Well, it's also crashing like hell here (45.6.0-3)

Cheers,
Frank

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#177867

FromBenjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info>
Date2017-02-16 14:00 +0100
Message-ID<tbtPc-6h4-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177804
I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
config editor.


-- 
Benjamin Rochefort
http://benwen.info

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#177877

FromDaniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net>
Date2017-02-16 15:10 +0100
Message-ID<tbuUW-7dp-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177867

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Hi, Benjamin

On 16/02/17 09:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote:

> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
> config editor.

Thanks for the tip. I applied this change. Let's see if it makes any
difference.

Kind regards,
Daniel

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#178174

FromDaniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net>
Date2017-02-26 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<teTN7-6ve-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177877

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Hi.

On 16/02/17 11:05, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

>> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
>> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
>> config editor.

> Thanks for the tip. I applied this change. Let's see if it makes any
> difference.

Although crashes continue to occur in my case, when using this option
Icedove seems more stable than before.

Kind regards,
Daniel

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#177891

FromPaul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl>
Date2017-02-16 21:20 +0100
Message-ID<tbAH0-2V2-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177867
Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort:
> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
> config editor.

Interesting. Why do you think this helps?  How long are you running
without crashes?

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis





-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

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#177898

FromBenjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info>
Date2017-02-17 00:40 +0100
Message-ID<tbDOx-4RA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177891
Le 2017-02-16 à 15:20, Paul van der Vlis a écrit :
> Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort:
>> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
>> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
>> config editor.
> 
> Interesting. Why do you think this helps?  How long are you running
> without crashes?

It's been weeks, maybe even months now.  I found this suggestion
somewhere on the web after searching for something like 'random
thunderbird crash'.  I have no idea what behavior this setting controls,
but setting it to false hasn't removed any visible functionality as far
as I can see.


-- 
Benjamin Rochefort
http://benwen.info

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#177900

FromJape Person <japers@comcast.net>
Date2017-02-17 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<tbEKB-5qy-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177898
On 02/16/2017 06:11 PM, Benjamin Rochefort wrote:
> Le 2017-02-16 à 15:20, Paul van der Vlis a écrit :
>> Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort:
>>> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
>>> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
>>> config editor.
>>
>> Interesting. Why do you think this helps?  How long are you running
>> without crashes?
>
> It's been weeks, maybe even months now.  I found this suggestion
> somewhere on the web after searching for something like 'random
> thunderbird crash'.  I have no idea what behavior this setting controls,
> but setting it to false hasn't removed any visible functionality as far
> as I can see.
>
>
After changing the setting I noticed one feature was missing -- the 
ability of Icedove to suddenly make my desktop appear while I was trying 
to read messages!

That's why I returned the setting to its default. I like surprises.

g,d&r

JP

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#177901

FromBenjamin Rochefort <ben@benwen.info>
Date2017-02-17 03:10 +0100
Message-ID<tbG9I-6oX-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177900
Le 2017-02-16 à 19:40, Jape Person a écrit :
> On 02/16/2017 06:11 PM, Benjamin Rochefort wrote:
>> It's been weeks, maybe even months now.  I found this suggestion
>> somewhere on the web after searching for something like 'random
>> thunderbird crash'.  I have no idea what behavior this setting controls,
>> but setting it to false hasn't removed any visible functionality as far
>> as I can see.
>>
>>
> After changing the setting I noticed one feature was missing -- the
> ability of Icedove to suddenly make my desktop appear while I was trying
> to read messages!
> 
> That's why I returned the setting to its default. I like surprises.

As they say, one man's bug is another man's feature :).


-- 
Benjamin Rochefort
http://benwen.info

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#177893

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2017-02-16 21:50 +0100
Message-ID<tbBa2-36l-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177867
On 17/02/17 01:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote:
> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
> config editor.

+1. I had terrible problems with icedove segfaults on sid last year and 
this option was the only fix that worked for me. I am still using it.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#177894

FromJape Person <japers@comcast.net>
Date2017-02-16 22:00 +0100
Message-ID<tbBjH-3aW-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177893
On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> On 17/02/17 01:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote:
>> I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie
>> by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's
>> config editor.
>
> +1. I had terrible problems with icedove segfaults on sid last year and
> this option was the only fix that worked for me. I am still using it.
>
> Kind regards,
>
Three Debian testing systems here with same issue. This config editor 
setting fixed the crashing on all three systems. I reversed the setting 
a few weeks ago and have had a couple of Icedove crashes only on the 
most heavily used system. This is a rarer occurrence than it used to be.

The crashes occur *only* when I have the message pane open and am moving 
through the message list. (I always use the keyboard arrow keys for 
this, so don't know if same would happen with mouse.)

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