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Re: Before I install Debian

Started bySven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
First post2017-02-10 21:50 +0100
Last post2017-02-12 22:20 +0100
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  Re: Before I install Debian Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-02-10 21:50 +0100
    Re: Before I install Debian Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-02-10 22:00 +0100
      Re: Before I install Debian Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2017-02-11 22:30 +0100
        Re: Before I install Debian John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> - 2017-02-12 04:00 +0100
          Re: Before I install Debian Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 11:20 +0100
            Re: Before I install Debian GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-02-12 14:10 +0100
            Re: Before I install Debian Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-02-12 14:50 +0100
              Re: Before I install Debian Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 21:50 +0100
                Slight correction was Re: Before I install Debian Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 22:20 +0100

#177655 — Re: Before I install Debian

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2017-02-10 21:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Before I install Debian
Message-ID<t9qiJ-8mb-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available with
> Debian?  

No.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

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#177657

FromDoug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
Date2017-02-10 22:00 +0100
Message-ID<t9qsq-8pJ-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177655

On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>
>> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available with
>> Debian?
> No.
>
> Grüße,
> Sven.
>
Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?

--doug

-- 
Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides.--A.M,Greeley

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#177713

FromBob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net>
Date2017-02-11 22:30 +0100
Message-ID<t9Np0-5NH-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177657
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> >John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> >
> >>All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available with
> >>Debian?
> >No.
> >
> >Grüße,
> >Sven.
> >
> Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?

It's better than Adobe in that they have a current version for linux.
They are, however, closed source.

-- 
Bob  Holtzman

"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

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#177727

FromJohn Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com>
Date2017-02-12 04:00 +0100
Message-ID<t9Sym-t0-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177713
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:13:20 -0700
Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:  
> > >John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> > >  
> > >>All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > >>with Debian?  
> > >No.
> > >
> > >Grüße,
> > >Sven.
> > >  
> > Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?  
> 
> It's better than Adobe in that they have a current version for linux.
> They are, however, closed source.
> 


I think the main point is being missed. I have Okular and xpdf. The
company's software would only work with Adobe. As for the edition 7
web site I don't remember where I found it. I can look
again if it is neededful.
-- 
John Culleton
Wexfordpress
Book design and indexing.

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#177735

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-12 11:20 +0100
Message-ID<t9Zqa-52B-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177727
On Sunday 12 February 2017 02:49:41 John Culleton wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:13:20 -0700
>
> Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> > > On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > > >John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> > > >>All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > > >>with Debian?
> > > >
> > > >No.
> > > >
> > > >Grüße,
> > > >Sven.
> > >
> > > Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?
> >
> > It's better than Adobe in that they have a current version for linux.
> > They are, however, closed source.
>
> I think the main point is being missed. 

Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary program 
belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.

Other people found that too short and are trying to find a way to help.  You 
have your answer.  Modern Adobe Acrobat will not run on Debian.

You can either try out some of the suggestions or not try out some of the 
suggestions.  But you have your answer.

Lisi

> I have Okular and xpdf. The 
> company's software would only work with Adobe. As for the edition 7
> web site I don't remember where I found it. I can look
> again if it is neededful.

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#177739

FromGiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org>
Date2017-02-12 14:10 +0100
Message-ID<ta24F-6HV-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177735
Lisi Reisz:
>> I think the main point is being missed. 
> 
> Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary program 
> belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.
> 
> Other people found that too short and are trying to find a way to help.  You 
> have your answer.  Modern Adobe Acrobat will not run on Debian.

if one was looking for salespeople in debian to satisfy their minimum
expectations in order to buy it, he/she would have missed the whole point.

1 A tax reviewer that would only "sell" service if the customer
satisfied their demands is one that would least likely have human input
in whether what is submitted or not is valid.  The machine will take as
valid an expense of 129,99 as 12999 if that is how it was entered, your
tax will be less and it will not be the adobe client's fault.  A real
auditor would inquire on the validity of a 13 thousand gas receipt.

2 The security of your private tax information will be transmitted
through win-dose pseudo-security by a pseudo software's internal
encoding to some insecure server (unless it is based on linux which can
handle security well from the doorstep and inwards).

3  I think the decision of the system should be based on a better and
wider overall look of the big picture.  These good people here are not
able to make tax-related decisions for anyone. I am among those who have
been helped and eager to know enough to help others.  The problem with
adobe is not one that could be addressed here, but I am trying to
establish that the problem is not with adobe's products but with those
who have taken the blackmail and internalized it.  Imagine being on
death row for all the wrong reasons, for not shooting the deputy only
the sheriff, and the only way to appeal is by submitting a form through
acrobat.  And there may come a day where running and distributing linux
may become illegal.  How many of us will still be here to help.

> You can either try out some of the suggestions or not try out some of the 
> suggestions.  But you have your answer.

Yes.

> Lisi

Doesn't that android thing have acrobat in it, probably for a fee?  I
would just get a second hand generic tablet just for that purpose  and
leave it half charged and off the remaining time.  It would be more
secure than trying to keep your private information in the online pc you
use daily.  If you can't spare 50 bucks for a tablet chances are you
don't need an accounting service or filing taxes probably :)

Katrin

PS  Have you watched Brazil?  Are you a Microsoft executive?

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

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#177741

FromSven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
Date2017-02-12 14:50 +0100
Message-ID<ta2Hn-6VL-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177735
Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday 12 February 2017 02:49:41 John Culleton wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:13:20 -0700 Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
>>>> On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
>>>>> John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

>>>>>> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
>>>>>> with Debian?
>>>>> No.

>> I think the main point is being missed. 

> Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary program 
> belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.

No, the question was, if it is available "with Debian", not if it would
run "on Debian". And the answer is "no", it is and was never available
with (or from) Debian.

It is also no longer officially supported or available for Linux from
Adobe on their official website. Go to
https://get.adobe.com/de/reader/otherversions/ and try to select "Linux"
as OS.

And the Debian package on their FTP server, containing an old and
outdated, security vulnerable version, may only still be there because
someone forgot to remove it, it could be gone tomorrow.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

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#177756

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-12 21:50 +0100
Message-ID<ta9fQ-2ui-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177741
On Sunday 12 February 2017 13:44:02 Sven Hartge wrote:
> >> I think the main point is being missed.
> >
> > Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary
> > program belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.
>
> No, the question was, if it is available "with Debian", not if it would
> run "on Debian". And the answer is "no", it is and was never available
> with (or from) Debian.

I was careless with my prepositions.  Sorry.  Though the answer remains 
effectively the same in this case!!  I think the OP actually meant "on" (I 
don't think he cared who supplied it!), and didn't read carefully enough.

Lisi

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#177759 — Slight correction was Re: Before I install Debian

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-12 22:20 +0100
SubjectSlight correction was Re: Before I install Debian
Message-ID<ta9IS-2Tv-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#177756
On Sunday 12 February 2017 20:40:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> and didn't read carefully enough.

and *** I *** didn't read carefully enough.  (As it stands it is open to being 
misread.)

Lisi

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