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  flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-22 07:40 +0200
    Re: flash in stretch again deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:40 +0200
      Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-23 22:50 +0200
        Re: flash in stretch again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-23 23:00 +0200
          Re: flash in stretch again Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 00:30 +0200
        Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-24 02:40 +0200
          Re: flash in stretch again Ralph Katz <ralph@ralphkatz.com> - 2017-06-24 03:40 +0200
            Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-24 06:00 +0200
              Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-24 06:20 +0200
              Re: flash in stretch again Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 08:10 +0200
          Re: flash in stretch again deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 09:00 +0200
            Re: flash in stretch again Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-24 09:10 +0200
              Re: flash in stretch again deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 12:20 +0200
                Re: flash in stretch again davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-06-24 20:00 +0200
                  Re: flash in stretch again Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-24 20:10 +0200
                    Re: flash in stretch again davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-06-24 20:30 +0200
                  Re: flash in stretch again deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 22:00 +0200
          Re: flash in stretch again Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-06-24 13:20 +0200
            Re: flash in stretch again Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 18:50 +0200
            Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-24 22:40 +0200
              Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-25 01:00 +0200
                Re: flash in stretch again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-25 01:30 +0200
                  Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-25 03:00 +0200
                  Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-25 04:20 +0200
                    Re: flash in stretch again Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 21:50 +0200
                      Re: flash in stretch again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2017-06-25 21:50 +0200
                      Re: flash in stretch again Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-06-26 00:00 +0200
                        Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-26 00:10 +0200
                          Re: flash in stretch again Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 18:40 +0200
                        Re: flash in stretch again Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 18:30 +0200
              Re: flash in stretch again Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-06-25 11:30 +0200
    Re: flash in stretch again Wellington Terumi Uemura <wellingtonuemura@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 18:10 +0200
      Opera questions (was Re: flash in stretch again) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-06-22 18:20 +0200
        Re: Opera questions (was Re: flash in stretch again) Wellington Terumi Uemura <wellingtonuemura@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 19:00 +0200
          Re: Opera questions (was Re: flash in stretch again) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-22 19:10 +0200
      Opera/Firefox speed, was Re: flash in stretch again David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 00:40 +0200
    Re: flash in stretch again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-22 21:00 +0200
      Re: flash in stretch again Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> - 2017-06-23 23:00 +0200

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#182613

On 06/24/2017 04:36 PM, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>
>
> On 06/24/2017 07:09 AM, Curt wrote:
>> On 2017-06-24, Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Are there no fixes to this problem?  I have tried everything that I 
>>> know
>>> how to do.  Still nothing and it doesn't matter which browser I 
>>> use.  It
>>> worked just fine in Jessie and I am really sorry it upgraded to 
>>> Stretch.
>>>
>> Have you verified that 'update-alternatives --list flash-mozilla.so'
>>
>> returns
>>
>>   /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
>> or
>>   /home/user_maureen/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
>>
>> ?
>>
> It returns /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
> it also return one for gnash.  could this be the problem or confusion?
>
>
>
As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and 
reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came up.  
But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I shut down 
thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and none of the 
games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What the hell could be going on?

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#182615

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On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came up.
> But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I shut
> down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and none of
> the games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What the hell could be
> going on?

What does about:plugins report for Flash?

I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox click-to-activate
model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger" drop-down prompt related
to that model, but I'm not sure how to express the question about that
much less how to recommend checking into it.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#182618

On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>
>> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
>> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came up.
>> But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I shut
>> down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and none of
>> the games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What the hell could be
>> going on?
> What does about:plugins report for Flash?
>
> I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox click-to-activate
> model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger" drop-down prompt related
> to that model, but I'm not sure how to express the question about that
> much less how to recommend checking into it.
>
It says nothing about flash at all.  It just lists the other ones I have 
installed.

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#182620

On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>
>> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
>> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came up.
>> But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I shut
>> down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and none of
>> the games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What the hell could be
>> going on?
> What does about:plugins report for Flash?
>
> I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox click-to-activate
> model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger" drop-down prompt related
> to that model, but I'm not sure how to express the question about that
> much less how to recommend checking into it.
>
The plugin says it is not there.  All the others are there except for 
flash.  It has to be something with where libflashplayer.so is but I 
have no idea where to start?  I am seriously considering going to a 
different distro.  I really hate that idea but this is just to damn much 
for me to figure out.  At 67 I just want to browse and play my damn games.

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#182646

On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas
<silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> > On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> >
> >> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
> >> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came
> >> up. But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I
> >> shut down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and
> >> none of the games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What the
> >> hell could be going on?
> > What does about:plugins report for Flash?
> >
> > I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox click-to-activate
> > model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger" drop-down prompt
> > related to that model, but I'm not sure how to express the question
> > about that much less how to recommend checking into it.
> >
> The plugin says it is not there.  All the others are there except for 
> flash.  It has to be something with where libflashplayer.so is but I 
> have no idea where to start?  I am seriously considering going to a 
> different distro.  I really hate that idea but this is just to damn
> much for me to figure out.  At 67 I just want to browse and play my
> damn games.

Just install the flash plugin manually.  That's what I do and have done
so since I started using Linux 15+ years ago.

In firefox-esr, go to www.adobe.com.  Make sure that's all that's in
the URL.  (It may take you to the Adobe Cloud app page.)  Toward the
bottom of the page, right hand side, you should see listed Adobe
Reader, Flash Player, etc.  Click Flash Player and you should be taken
to the Download Page. The OS should say Linux, if not change it to.  The
player version should be 26.something.  Using the Type dropdown menu,
select tar.gz. NOT .DEB! Click Download.  Don't do any of the following
"install" steps. This is a manaul install, remember.  Plus, the
auto-install never worked for me.  Check if the download suceeded.
Depending on how you've got firefox-esr configured, the file should be
in Downloads in your home directory or possibly on your Desktop.  Using
a file manager, exact the tar.gz file to the same place it was
downloaded. The only file you need be concerned with is
libflashplayer.so  As root, using a terminal (or if your filemanager is
able to switch to root priviledge), copy libflashplayer.so
to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/

Restart firefox-esr, do the about:plugin thing and see if FlashPlayer
is there and enabled.  Also, by entering about: in the URL line, see if
firefox-esr version is 52.2.something.  That's the lastest version of
esr.


Test if it works with your game sites, etc. 

FWIW, you said you were "upgraded" to Stretch automatically.  From
Jessie, I assume.  This was most likely caused by your Debian
Repositories being set to "Stable."  I had this happen 10+ years ago
when I first tried Debian (Sarge).  I was "upgraded" to Etch, IIRC, and
it caused problems since it was a improper upgrade with a bastard
system mix of Sarge and Etch.  To make a long story short, the fix was
a clean install.  You may have to do that (clean install of either
Jessie or Stretch), too, to get things working properly.  If everything
was working with Jessie, I suggest you install that.  With Debian's Long
Term Support, Jessie will be supported for another 3 years or so.

Good Luck.

B

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#182647

On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> ... The only file you need be concerned with is
> libflashplayer.so As root, using a terminal (or
> if your filemanager is able to switch to root
> priviledge), copy libflashplayer.so to
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/

One thing that has bitten me when doing this and things
like it: make sure the library is world-readable.

-- 
Carl Fink          carl@finknetwork.com
Thinking and logic and stuff at Reasonably Literate
http://reasonablyliterate.com

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#182652

On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas
> <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
>>> On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
>>>> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came
>>>> up. But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I
>>>> shut down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and
>>>> none of the games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What the
>>>> hell could be going on?
>>> What does about:plugins report for Flash?
>>>
>>> I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox click-to-activate
>>> model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger" drop-down prompt
>>> related to that model, but I'm not sure how to express the question
>>> about that much less how to recommend checking into it.
>>>
>> The plugin says it is not there.  All the others are there except for
>> flash.  It has to be something with where libflashplayer.so is but I
>> have no idea where to start?  I am seriously considering going to a
>> different distro.  I really hate that idea but this is just to damn
>> much for me to figure out.  At 67 I just want to browse and play my
>> damn games.
> Just install the flash plugin manually.  That's what I do and have done
> so since I started using Linux 15+ years ago.
>
> In firefox-esr, go to www.adobe.com.  Make sure that's all that's in
> the URL.  (It may take you to the Adobe Cloud app page.)  Toward the
> bottom of the page, right hand side, you should see listed Adobe
> Reader, Flash Player, etc.  Click Flash Player and you should be taken
> to the Download Page. The OS should say Linux, if not change it to.  The
> player version should be 26.something.  Using the Type dropdown menu,
> select tar.gz. NOT .DEB! Click Download.  Don't do any of the following
> "install" steps. This is a manaul install, remember.  Plus, the
> auto-install never worked for me.  Check if the download suceeded.
> Depending on how you've got firefox-esr configured, the file should be
> in Downloads in your home directory or possibly on your Desktop.  Using
> a file manager, exact the tar.gz file to the same place it was
> downloaded. The only file you need be concerned with is
> libflashplayer.so  As root, using a terminal (or if your filemanager is
> able to switch to root priviledge), copy libflashplayer.so
> to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
>
> Restart firefox-esr, do the about:plugin thing and see if FlashPlayer
> is there and enabled.  Also, by entering about: in the URL line, see if
> firefox-esr version is 52.2.something.  That's the lastest version of
> esr.
>
>
> Test if it works with your game sites, etc.
Thank you, Patrick! You would not believe how much time I have wasted 
trying to install this thing (hmm... maybe you would). Manual 
installation rocks and it works for Jessie and FF 45.9.0.

  - Dan
> FWIW, you said you were "upgraded" to Stretch automatically.  From
> Jessie, I assume.  This was most likely caused by your Debian
> Repositories being set to "Stable."  I had this happen 10+ years ago
> when I first tried Debian (Sarge).  I was "upgraded" to Etch, IIRC, and
> it caused problems since it was a improper upgrade with a bastard
> system mix of Sarge and Etch.  To make a long story short, the fix was
> a clean install.  You may have to do that (clean install of either
> Jessie or Stretch), too, to get things working properly.  If everything
> was working with Jessie, I suggest you install that.  With Debian's Long
> Term Support, Jessie will be supported for another 3 years or so.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> B
>

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#182653

On 06/25/2017 05:18 PM, Dan Norton wrote:
>
>
> On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas
>> <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
>>>> On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
>>>>> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came
>>>>> up. But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So I
>>>>> shut down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it and
>>>>> none of the games will run.  I am at a complete loss. What the
>>>>> hell could be going on?
>>>> What does about:plugins report for Flash?
>>>>
>>>> I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox click-to-activate
>>>> model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger" drop-down prompt
>>>> related to that model, but I'm not sure how to express the question
>>>> about that much less how to recommend checking into it.
>>>>
>>> The plugin says it is not there.  All the others are there except for
>>> flash.  It has to be something with where libflashplayer.so is but I
>>> have no idea where to start?  I am seriously considering going to a
>>> different distro.  I really hate that idea but this is just to damn
>>> much for me to figure out.  At 67 I just want to browse and play my
>>> damn games.
>> Just install the flash plugin manually.  That's what I do and have done
>> so since I started using Linux 15+ years ago.
>>
>> In firefox-esr, go to www.adobe.com.  Make sure that's all that's in
>> the URL.  (It may take you to the Adobe Cloud app page.)  Toward the
>> bottom of the page, right hand side, you should see listed Adobe
>> Reader, Flash Player, etc.  Click Flash Player and you should be taken
>> to the Download Page. The OS should say Linux, if not change it to.  The
>> player version should be 26.something.  Using the Type dropdown menu,
>> select tar.gz. NOT .DEB! Click Download.  Don't do any of the following
>> "install" steps. This is a manaul install, remember.  Plus, the
>> auto-install never worked for me.  Check if the download suceeded.
>> Depending on how you've got firefox-esr configured, the file should be
>> in Downloads in your home directory or possibly on your Desktop.  Using
>> a file manager, exact the tar.gz file to the same place it was
>> downloaded. The only file you need be concerned with is
>> libflashplayer.so  As root, using a terminal (or if your filemanager is
>> able to switch to root priviledge), copy libflashplayer.so
>> to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
>>
>> Restart firefox-esr, do the about:plugin thing and see if FlashPlayer
>> is there and enabled.  Also, by entering about: in the URL line, see if
>> firefox-esr version is 52.2.something.  That's the lastest version of
>> esr.
>>
>>
>> Test if it works with your game sites, etc.
> Thank you, Patrick! You would not believe how much time I have wasted 
> trying to install this thing (hmm... maybe you would). Manual 
> installation rocks and it works for Jessie and FF 45.9.0.
>
>  - Dan
>> FWIW, you said you were "upgraded" to Stretch automatically.  From
>> Jessie, I assume.  This was most likely caused by your Debian
>> Repositories being set to "Stable."  I had this happen 10+ years ago
>> when I first tried Debian (Sarge).  I was "upgraded" to Etch, IIRC, and
>> it caused problems since it was a improper upgrade with a bastard
>> system mix of Sarge and Etch.  To make a long story short, the fix was
>> a clean install.  You may have to do that (clean install of either
>> Jessie or Stretch), too, to get things working properly.  If everything
>> was working with Jessie, I suggest you install that.  With Debian's Long
>> Term Support, Jessie will be supported for another 3 years or so.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> B
>>
>
>
So I was playing around trying to figure this crap out and I installed 
Opera and my games work in that browser.  They still do NOT work in 
Firefox ESR.  I would use Opera but none of the movie things will play.  
So how is that for screwed up.  I am going to download Stretch and do a 
clean install and then see how that goes. Thanks everyone for all the help.

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#182691

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 18:03:22 -0400 Maureen L Thomas
<silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 06/25/2017 05:18 PM, Dan Norton wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas
> >> <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> >>>> On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
> >>>>> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came
> >>>>> up. But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.
> >>>>> So I shut down thinking that firefox had a problem and
> >>>>> restarted it and none of the games will run.  I am at a
> >>>>> complete loss. What the hell could be going on?
> >>>> What does about:plugins report for Flash?
> >>>>
> >>>> I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox
> >>>> click-to-activate model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger"
> >>>> drop-down prompt related to that model, but I'm not sure how to
> >>>> express the question about that much less how to recommend
> >>>> checking into it.
> >>>>
> >>> The plugin says it is not there.  All the others are there except
> >>> for flash.  It has to be something with where libflashplayer.so
> >>> is but I have no idea where to start?  I am seriously considering
> >>> going to a different distro.  I really hate that idea but this is
> >>> just to damn much for me to figure out.  At 67 I just want to
> >>> browse and play my damn games.
> >> Just install the flash plugin manually.  That's what I do and have
> >> done so since I started using Linux 15+ years ago.
> >>
> >> In firefox-esr, go to www.adobe.com.  Make sure that's all that's
> >> in the URL.  (It may take you to the Adobe Cloud app page.)
> >> Toward the bottom of the page, right hand side, you should see
> >> listed Adobe Reader, Flash Player, etc.  Click Flash Player and
> >> you should be taken to the Download Page. The OS should say Linux,
> >> if not change it to.  The player version should be 26.something.
> >> Using the Type dropdown menu, select tar.gz. NOT .DEB! Click
> >> Download.  Don't do any of the following "install" steps. This is
> >> a manaul install, remember.  Plus, the auto-install never worked
> >> for me.  Check if the download suceeded. Depending on how you've
> >> got firefox-esr configured, the file should be in Downloads in
> >> your home directory or possibly on your Desktop.  Using a file
> >> manager, exact the tar.gz file to the same place it was
> >> downloaded. The only file you need be concerned with is
> >> libflashplayer.so  As root, using a terminal (or if your
> >> filemanager is able to switch to root priviledge), copy
> >> libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
> >>
> >> Restart firefox-esr, do the about:plugin thing and see if
> >> FlashPlayer is there and enabled.  Also, by entering about: in the
> >> URL line, see if firefox-esr version is 52.2.something.  That's
> >> the lastest version of esr.
> >>
> >>
> >> Test if it works with your game sites, etc.
> > Thank you, Patrick! You would not believe how much time I have
> > wasted trying to install this thing (hmm... maybe you would).
> > Manual installation rocks and it works for Jessie and FF 45.9.0.
> >
> >  - Dan
> >> FWIW, you said you were "upgraded" to Stretch automatically.  From
> >> Jessie, I assume.  This was most likely caused by your Debian
> >> Repositories being set to "Stable."  I had this happen 10+ years
> >> ago when I first tried Debian (Sarge).  I was "upgraded" to Etch,
> >> IIRC, and it caused problems since it was a improper upgrade with
> >> a bastard system mix of Sarge and Etch.  To make a long story
> >> short, the fix was a clean install.  You may have to do that
> >> (clean install of either Jessie or Stretch), too, to get things
> >> working properly.  If everything was working with Jessie, I
> >> suggest you install that.  With Debian's Long Term Support, Jessie
> >> will be supported for another 3 years or so.
> >>
> >> Good Luck.
> >>
> >> B
> >>
> >
> >
> So I was playing around trying to figure this crap out and I
> installed Opera and my games work in that browser.  They still do NOT
> work in Firefox ESR.  I would use Opera but none of the movie things
> will play. So how is that for screwed up.  I am going to download
> Stretch and do a clean install and then see how that goes. Thanks
> everyone for all the help.

Sorry, you've had problems.  Like I said, I think a lot of it is due to
that improper (and unwanted) upgrade to Stretch.

It's not unusual to have some sites work with one browser and not
another even if all are up-to-date with all the necessary plugins,
extensions, etc.  I came across one site that parts would only work
properly with Windows and Internet Explorer.  And that was a few months
ago!

Goo luck on your clean install of Stretch.  Just read the Release Notes
and Install Instructions first.

B

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#182689

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 17:18:50 -0400 Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> 
> 
> On 06/25/2017 03:42 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Maureen L Thomas
> > <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 06/24/2017 07:29 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> >>> On 2017-06-24 at 18:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As a last desperate attempt I completely removed firefox-esr and
> >>>> reinstalled it.  I opened it up and the first game actually came
> >>>> up. But the next two games again stated that I needed flash.  So
> >>>> I shut down thinking that firefox had a problem and restarted it
> >>>> and none of the games will run.  I am at a complete loss.  What
> >>>> the hell could be going on?
> >>> What does about:plugins report for Flash?
> >>>
> >>> I also have a niggling idea related to the Firefox
> >>> click-to-activate model and the sometimes-missable "doorhanger"
> >>> drop-down prompt related to that model, but I'm not sure how to
> >>> express the question about that much less how to recommend
> >>> checking into it.
> >>>
> >> The plugin says it is not there.  All the others are there except
> >> for flash.  It has to be something with where libflashplayer.so is
> >> but I have no idea where to start?  I am seriously considering
> >> going to a different distro.  I really hate that idea but this is
> >> just to damn much for me to figure out.  At 67 I just want to
> >> browse and play my damn games.
> > Just install the flash plugin manually.  That's what I do and have
> > done so since I started using Linux 15+ years ago.
> >
> > In firefox-esr, go to www.adobe.com.  Make sure that's all that's in
> > the URL.  (It may take you to the Adobe Cloud app page.)  Toward the
> > bottom of the page, right hand side, you should see listed Adobe
> > Reader, Flash Player, etc.  Click Flash Player and you should be
> > taken to the Download Page. The OS should say Linux, if not change
> > it to.  The player version should be 26.something.  Using the Type
> > dropdown menu, select tar.gz. NOT .DEB! Click Download.  Don't do
> > any of the following "install" steps. This is a manaul install,
> > remember.  Plus, the auto-install never worked for me.  Check if
> > the download suceeded. Depending on how you've got firefox-esr
> > configured, the file should be in Downloads in your home directory
> > or possibly on your Desktop.  Using a file manager, exact the
> > tar.gz file to the same place it was downloaded. The only file you
> > need be concerned with is libflashplayer.so  As root, using a
> > terminal (or if your filemanager is able to switch to root
> > priviledge), copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
> >
> > Restart firefox-esr, do the about:plugin thing and see if
> > FlashPlayer is there and enabled.  Also, by entering about: in the
> > URL line, see if firefox-esr version is 52.2.something.  That's the
> > lastest version of esr.
> >
> >
> > Test if it works with your game sites, etc.
> Thank you, Patrick! You would not believe how much time I have wasted 
> trying to install this thing (hmm... maybe you would). Manual 
> installation rocks and it works for Jessie and FF 45.9.0.

You're welcome. 

The manual install method was originally the only way to get the Flash
plugin installed in Linux.  Later when some distros offered auto
install, they were problematical (or didn't work at all), created new
directories, symlinks all over the place, etc.  Even when Adobe
created the install page on their web site, I was never able to get
it to work.  I'll stick with manual than you very much.

FYI: just manually installed in both Wheezy and Stretch the latest Flash
Player plugin (26.0.0.131) to run in Firefox-esr 52.2.0, the most
current version.  All working just fine.

B

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#182631

On 2017-06-24, Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> It returns /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
> it also return one for gnash.  could this be the problem or confusion?
>
>

I think it is (although that path is compliant with the Debian wiki on
the matter). On my machine, 'about:plugins' reveals that Firefox-esr
searches the following paths for the flash plugin:

/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
and
/home/curty/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

We could always experiment by copying the libflashplayer.so file as
indicated above (or merely into you're home directory) and then

update-alternatives --quiet --install /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so flash-mozilla.so /home/'your user name'/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

However, I will now admit that I'm a little confused about the whole
deal. I do not use the flash-installer; I just go to Adobe and extract
the libflashplayer.so file from the tar.gz archive and copy it to both
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and /home/curty/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so.

update-alternatives --list flash-mozilla.so 
returns
/home/curty/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so

on my machine.

Good luck.






-- 
"It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the
far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs.
Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To
the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.

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#182512

I really recommend that you switch up to Opera and forget about Chromium 
and Firefox for a number of reasons. It uses much less resources, native 
AdBlock, embedded free VPN for your privacy concerns, it uses chromium 
engine to render pages, pop up video, Speed Dial, etc, etc.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-the-opera-browser/
https://www.windowscentral.com/why-switch-opera-browser

Your issue is also why I've migrated it and I'm not willing to go back, 
I don't keep track of every single change that happens with Debian and 
Mozilla. Before I used to compile a kernel specific to my machine, now I 
just want to install the thing and use it.

I just have enough of this, Firefox is out of Debian, now is back again, 
now Firefox stop working with flash and you have to do some Voodoo magic 
to make it work until the next update that will brake flash player all 
over again.

To make flash, h.264 and html5 work on Opera, all you have to do is this.
1. Download the ".tar.gz" version
https://get.adobe.com/br/flashplayer/

2. Download the last pre-build nwjs-ffmpeg
https://github.com/iteufel/nwjs-ffmpeg-prebuilt/releases/

3. Install some nice fonts
pt-get install ttf-linux-libertine ttf-freefont ttf-mscorefonts-installer

4. Download and install Opera
http://www.opera.com/

5. Open Opera and at the top left cornet, click at the red Opera logo 
and go "about opera". Check where it is installed, my is something like 
this.
Installed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera

6. Decompress nwjs-ffmpeg and copy the "libffmpeg.so" to where your 
Opera is installed.

Restart Opera, that's it!

Youtube videos, Facebook videos, cnn, and animations should be working, 
if you test for html5 on Youtube, all should be blue.
https://www.youtube.com/html5

If you still need flash player:

1. Decompress the flashplayer
tar -zxvf flash_player_ppapi_linux.x86_64.tar.gz

2. Create the plugins directory as root or using sudo
mkdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/plugins

3. Copy libpepflashplayer.so to plugins directory
cp libpepflashplayer.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/plugins

Restart Opera.

You can use the Debian version:
https://wiki.debian.org/Opera

Please note that you have to update the nwjs-ffmpeg every time a new 
Opera version arrives.

On 22-06-2017 02:31, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch.  That is all
> fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again.  Is there any help out
> there for this program.  I even installed Chromium with pepperflash and
> it won't work either.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I am running on an AMD A8, Toshiba satellite, with stretch.  Thanks.
>
> Maureen
>

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#182513 — Opera questions (was Re: flash in stretch again)

I'm not the OP, but because you use and recommend Opera, let me ask a few 
questions:

   * Have you ever used a really large number of tabs--I mean like 800 or so?  

   * Does Opera have, hmm, what to call it--a tab interface on the left hand 
side--a thing where the tab labels can be nested and collapsed and such?

   * Does Opera have a means to recover tabs on a crash?

   * Does Opera have a means to backup the history (not in a database, I hope) 
from which I can print (or C&P) a list of the tabs that were open at the time 
of a crash?

Thanks!

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:00:35 PM Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> I really recommend that you switch up to Opera and forget about Chromium
> and Firefox for a number of reasons. It uses much less resources, native
> AdBlock, embedded free VPN for your privacy concerns, it uses chromium
> engine to render pages, pop up video, Speed Dial, etc, etc.
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-th
> e-opera-browser/ https://www.windowscentral.com/why-switch-opera-browser
> 
> Your issue is also why I've migrated it and I'm not willing to go back,
> I don't keep track of every single change that happens with Debian and
> Mozilla. Before I used to compile a kernel specific to my machine, now I
> just want to install the thing and use it.
> 
> I just have enough of this, Firefox is out of Debian, now is back again,
> now Firefox stop working with flash and you have to do some Voodoo magic
> to make it work until the next update that will brake flash player all
> over again.
> 
> To make flash, h.264 and html5 work on Opera, all you have to do is this.
> 1. Download the ".tar.gz" version
> https://get.adobe.com/br/flashplayer/
> 
> 2. Download the last pre-build nwjs-ffmpeg
> https://github.com/iteufel/nwjs-ffmpeg-prebuilt/releases/
> 
> 3. Install some nice fonts
> pt-get install ttf-linux-libertine ttf-freefont ttf-mscorefonts-installer
> 
> 4. Download and install Opera
> http://www.opera.com/
> 
> 5. Open Opera and at the top left cornet, click at the red Opera logo
> and go "about opera". Check where it is installed, my is something like
> this.
> Installed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera
> 
> 6. Decompress nwjs-ffmpeg and copy the "libffmpeg.so" to where your
> Opera is installed.
> 
> Restart Opera, that's it!
> 
> Youtube videos, Facebook videos, cnn, and animations should be working,
> if you test for html5 on Youtube, all should be blue.
> https://www.youtube.com/html5
> 
> If you still need flash player:
> 
> 1. Decompress the flashplayer
> tar -zxvf flash_player_ppapi_linux.x86_64.tar.gz
> 
> 2. Create the plugins directory as root or using sudo
> mkdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/plugins
> 
> 3. Copy libpepflashplayer.so to plugins directory
> cp libpepflashplayer.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/plugins
> 
> Restart Opera.
> 
> You can use the Debian version:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Opera
> 
> Please note that you have to update the nwjs-ffmpeg every time a new
> Opera version arrives.
> 
> On 22-06-2017 02:31, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> > I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch.  That is all
> > fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again.  Is there any help out
> > there for this program.  I even installed Chromium with pepperflash and
> > it won't work either.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > I am running on an AMD A8, Toshiba satellite, with stretch.  Thanks.
> > 
> > Maureen

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#182517 — Re: Opera questions (was Re: flash in stretch again)

* Who does it? I use 30 tabs max.

* I don't know, I'm a right hand. You can install and figure it out I guess.

* Not that I'm aware of, BUT, instead of recover tabs you can look at 
history and recover from there without using huge amount of resource on 
your HDD to show all the tabs you had open and witch one you want to 
recover from.

* I believe your use is very specific, all your history and data are 
stored in database format on your ~home/.config/opera.



On 22-06-2017 13:10, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm not the OP, but because you use and recommend Opera, let me ask a few
> questions:
>
>    * Have you ever used a really large number of tabs--I mean like 800 or so?
>
>    * Does Opera have, hmm, what to call it--a tab interface on the left hand
> side--a thing where the tab labels can be nested and collapsed and such?
>
>    * Does Opera have a means to recover tabs on a crash?
>
>    * Does Opera have a means to backup the history (not in a database, I hope)
> from which I can print (or C&P) a list of the tabs that were open at the time
> of a crash?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:00:35 PM Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
>> I really recommend that you switch up to Opera and forget about Chromium
>> and Firefox for a number of reasons. It uses much less resources, native
>> AdBlock, embedded free VPN for your privacy concerns, it uses chromium
>> engine to render pages, pop up video, Speed Dial, etc, etc.
>> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-th
>> e-opera-browser/ https://www.windowscentral.com/why-switch-opera-browser
>>
>> Your issue is also why I've migrated it and I'm not willing to go back,
>> I don't keep track of every single change that happens with Debian and
>> Mozilla. Before I used to compile a kernel specific to my machine, now I
>> just want to install the thing and use it.
>>
>> I just have enough of this, Firefox is out of Debian, now is back again,
>> now Firefox stop working with flash and you have to do some Voodoo magic
>> to make it work until the next update that will brake flash player all
>> over again.
>>
>> To make flash, h.264 and html5 work on Opera, all you have to do is this.
>> 1. Download the ".tar.gz" version
>> https://get.adobe.com/br/flashplayer/
>>
>> 2. Download the last pre-build nwjs-ffmpeg
>> https://github.com/iteufel/nwjs-ffmpeg-prebuilt/releases/
>>
>> 3. Install some nice fonts
>> pt-get install ttf-linux-libertine ttf-freefont ttf-mscorefonts-installer
>>
>> 4. Download and install Opera
>> http://www.opera.com/
>>
>> 5. Open Opera and at the top left cornet, click at the red Opera logo
>> and go "about opera". Check where it is installed, my is something like
>> this.
>> Installed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera
>>
>> 6. Decompress nwjs-ffmpeg and copy the "libffmpeg.so" to where your
>> Opera is installed.
>>
>> Restart Opera, that's it!
>>
>> Youtube videos, Facebook videos, cnn, and animations should be working,
>> if you test for html5 on Youtube, all should be blue.
>> https://www.youtube.com/html5
>>
>> If you still need flash player:
>>
>> 1. Decompress the flashplayer
>> tar -zxvf flash_player_ppapi_linux.x86_64.tar.gz
>>
>> 2. Create the plugins directory as root or using sudo
>> mkdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/plugins
>>
>> 3. Copy libpepflashplayer.so to plugins directory
>> cp libpepflashplayer.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera/plugins
>>
>> Restart Opera.
>>
>> You can use the Debian version:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Opera
>>
>> Please note that you have to update the nwjs-ffmpeg every time a new
>> Opera version arrives.
>>
>> On 22-06-2017 02:31, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
>>> I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch.  That is all
>>> fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again.  Is there any help out
>>> there for this program.  I even installed Chromium with pepperflash and
>>> it won't work either.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> I am running on an AMD A8, Toshiba satellite, with stretch.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Maureen
>

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#182518 — Re: Opera questions (was Re: flash in stretch again)

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On 2017-06-22 at 12:53, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:

> * Who does it? I use 30 tabs max.

Over the course of the past two years (give or take), I've managed to
reduce my open-tab count on my primary computer to a current count of
only 426 - but my peak was 5,190 simultaneous open tabs. I hope to
eventually get it down to a running balance, across all the things I do
with the browser, somewhere in the vicinity of 250; no matter how many
of my pending backlogs I clear away, I don't expect it to ever fall
below around 80.

That's on my desktop. My laptop has a hundred or two open tabs, and my
(two primary) work computers have several dozen each. (Well, normally.
One of them is currently up in the a-few-hundred range, because I've
been following news articles during downtime and there hasn't been
enough downtime to keep up with new ones.)

Different workflows use tabs very differently.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#187805 — Opera/Firefox speed, was Re: flash in stretch again

TL;DR perhaps try http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

On Thu 22 Jun 2017 at 13:00:35 (-0300), Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> I really recommend that you switch up to Opera and forget about
> Chromium and Firefox for a number of reasons. It uses much less
> resources, native AdBlock, embedded free VPN for your privacy
> concerns, it uses chromium engine to render pages, pop up video,
> Speed Dial, etc, etc.
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-the-opera-browser/
> https://www.windowscentral.com/why-switch-opera-browser
> 
> Your issue is also why I've migrated it and I'm not willing to go
> back, I don't keep track of every single change that happens with
> Debian and Mozilla. Before I used to compile a kernel specific to my
> machine, now I just want to install the thing and use it.
> 
> I just have enough of this, Firefox is out of Debian, now is back
> again, now Firefox stop working with flash and you have to do some
> Voodoo magic to make it work until the next update that will brake
> flash player all over again.

As a result of this recommendation, I decided to try Opera on
this low-powered machine¹. Flash is the least of my problems
as I download those I want to see and am grateful that the rest
*don't* run: it's the rendering speed that is my main concern.
Many web pages completely overload the machine: the screen
clock and even the mouse interrupts can get several tens of
seconds behind and then have to catch up. (Unless you wait,
any mouse clicks will land in the wrong place.)

I found O's usability difficult after using F for years², but
there *were* individual web sites that were faster to render,
so I set up short-cuts to call those up. The two most significant
were the 10-day forecast and the weather radar. Some newspaper
sites too.

O's printing was no better that F (eg missing a line at page
top/bottoms) and it would sometimes produce the correct number
of empty pages. Saving web pages (whichever way) seemed only to
be able to produce a mystery monolithic file, rather than F's
tree of individual images and other scraps, which is a feature
I depend on.

The Google Images interface was far less useful too. (I only rarely
want to visit the pages that the images come from: for me, it's a
search tool, not a navigation one.)

It also appeared that when O started with a number of Tabs from
the previous session, it would attempt to restore them all
straight away, with completely negated any performance gain.
F only opens the Tab you're displaying, and defers restoring
other ones until you select them.

I was happy to see that O could import F's bookmarks, but the
way they were then implemented was poor as it alphabetised
them all. Imagine getting to w-eather: six or seven lists the
height of the page.

With a couple more devices to add to /etc/hosts, I though I'd
try adding in the list of machines at

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

This has had a much more transforming effect on F than switching
to Opera; so much so that I have reverted my short-cuts for
weather etc. The fan has less work to do too.

(BTW. I'm happy to read comments on where I went wrong.)

¹ 1.50GHz Pentium M, 512MB memory, 1GB swap, fvwm, no DE.

² Opera was, I think, the third browser I used (mid-1990s), after
Mosaic and Netscape, in the days when it had a little orange panel
top-right where it put ads. Fvwm used to put a tiny xterm over it
(set to always-on-top) to avoid the distracting animations.

Cheers,
David.

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#182520

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From: silverorb@verizon.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch.

What did you have before stretch and how did updating some
packages switched you from your "other system" to stretch???

Wouldn't this be a major bug?

That is all
fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again.

So it didn't work before and you thought by updating it would?

I am running on an AMD A8, Toshiba satellite, with stretch. Thanks.

It seems your satellite just switched orbits. I think this is an issue to
investigate.

Maureen

(AK)

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#182560

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On 06/22/2017 02:57 PM, Fungi4All wrote:
>
>> From: silverorb@verizon.net
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>
>> I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch.
>>
>
> What did you have before stretch and how did updating some
> packages switched you from your "other system" to stretch???
>
> Wouldn't this be a major bug?
>
>> That is all
>> fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again.
>
> So it didn't work before and you thought by updating it would?
>
>> I am running on an AMD A8, Toshiba satellite, with stretch. Thanks.
>
> It seems your satellite just switched orbits.  I think this is an issue to
> investigate.
>
>> Maureen
>
> (AK)
Actually it worked just fine in jessie.

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