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(abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

Started byLong Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com>
First post2017-06-06 23:40 +0200
Last post2017-06-08 14:10 +0200
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  (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Long Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 23:40 +0200
    Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 01:40 +0200
      Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Long Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 03:00 +0200
        Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 21:30 +0200
          Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Long Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 22:10 +0200
            Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 22:20 +0200
            Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 23:10 +0200
              Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Long Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 23:40 +0200
                Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-08 14:10 +0200

#181858 — (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

FromLong Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-06 23:40 +0200
Subject(abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site
Message-ID<tPumK-5Ri-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
Thank Thomas!
I disable javascript, but it still display nothing.

the web site is in Chinese, use Unicode

my energy is limited,I give up
Thank all those who reply!

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#181861

FromSDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-07 01:40 +0200
Message-ID<tPweS-75T-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181858
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:05AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> Thank Thomas!
> I disable javascript, but it still display nothing.
> 
> the web site is in Chinese, use Unicode
> 
> my energy is limited,I give up
> Thank all those who reply!

I posted a link to what the page looks like as a webm movie. Not see it? 

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#181864

FromLong Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-07 03:00 +0200
Message-ID<tPxuh-7Me-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181861

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i can visit the web site with firefox 4 xp and android browser. the problem
is with iceweasel

thanks anyway!

On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:05AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> > Thank Thomas!
> > I disable javascript, but it still display nothing.
> >
> > the web site is in Chinese, use Unicode
> >
> > my energy is limited,I give up
> > Thank all those who reply!
>
> I posted a link to what the page looks like as a webm movie. Not see it?
>
>

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#181897

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-07 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<tPOOu-2mz-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181864
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 01:51:30 Long Wind wrote:
> i can visit the web site with firefox 4 xp and android browser. the problem
> is with iceweasel
>
> thanks anyway!
>
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:05AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> > > Thank Thomas!
> > > I disable javascript, but it still display nothing.
> > >
> > > the web site is in Chinese, use Unicode
> > >
> > > my energy is limited,I give up
> > > Thank all those who reply!
> >
> > I posted a link to what the page looks like as a webm movie. Not see it?

Why are you using Iceweasel?  (You probably said, but I can't find it.)

Lisi

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#181898

FromLong Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-07 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<tPPrc-2PB-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181897
On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Why are you using Iceweasel?  (You probably said, but I can't find it.)
>
> Lisi
>
>

iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)?
i want to use a popular browser
and i think iceweasel is a popular one.

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#181899

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-06-07 22:20 +0200
Message-ID<tPPAS-2SK-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181898
On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 04:05:33 +0800, Long Wind wrote:

> On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Why are you using Iceweasel?  (You probably said, but I can't find it.)
> >
> > Lisi
> 
> iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)?
> i want to use a popular browser
> and i think iceweasel is a popular one.

iceweasel is definitely not a fork of firefox.

Cue history of Debian's naming of a popular web browser.

-- 
Brian.

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#181900

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2017-06-07 23:10 +0200
Message-ID<tPQnf-3rp-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181898
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:05:33AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why are you using Iceweasel?  (You probably said, but I can't find it.)

> iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)?
> i want to use a popular browser
> and i think iceweasel is a popular one.

You've missed the point, though to be fair it wasn't spelled out very
clearly.

The "iceweasel" name is historic now.  The trademark issues with
Mozilla have been resolved.  In jessie and stretch, iceweasel is a
*transitional* package, existing only to bring in firefox-esr for
people who had previously been using the browser under that name.
Once you've got firefox-esr installed, you can remove the "iceweasel"
transitional package.

As for your original issue, I'm stumped.  Firefox-esr (and iceweasel
before it) have Javascript enabled by default.  If your Javascript web
site isn't loading in those browsers, and you're sure you've tried it with
the default settings, then the reason is something much too subtle for me.

(If you haven't tried it with the default settings yet, that would be
the next thing I'd try.  Create a new browser profile, or create a
whole new Debian user account if you want a *really* clean slate.)

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#181901

FromLong Wind <longwind2009@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-07 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<tPQQi-3EL-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181900
Thank Greg Wooledge!

I have created a new user, and the problem remain
it mean the default setting does not work for the web site

iceweasel in jessie really is firefox?
it's strange that firefox for XP is ok with the site

Thank Brian!

On 6/8/17, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:05:33AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
>> On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Why are you using Iceweasel?  (You probably said, but I can't find it.)
>
>> iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)?
>> i want to use a popular browser
>> and i think iceweasel is a popular one.
>
> You've missed the point, though to be fair it wasn't spelled out very
> clearly.
>
> The "iceweasel" name is historic now.  The trademark issues with
> Mozilla have been resolved.  In jessie and stretch, iceweasel is a
> *transitional* package, existing only to bring in firefox-esr for
> people who had previously been using the browser under that name.
> Once you've got firefox-esr installed, you can remove the "iceweasel"
> transitional package.
>
> As for your original issue, I'm stumped.  Firefox-esr (and iceweasel
> before it) have Javascript enabled by default.  If your Javascript web
> site isn't loading in those browsers, and you're sure you've tried it with
> the default settings, then the reason is something much too subtle for me.
>
> (If you haven't tried it with the default settings yet, that would be
> the next thing I'd try.  Create a new browser profile, or create a
> whole new Debian user account if you want a *really* clean slate.)
>
>

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#181919

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2017-06-08 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<tQ4qd-45j-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181901
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 05:34:10AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> iceweasel in jessie really is firefox?

You should probably verify what browser you're actually using.  Either
find the "Help" or "About Something" option in the settings menu, or
try going to "about:" in the URL bar.

> it's strange that firefox for XP is ok with the site

There are many strange aspects of this problem.  I don't yet understand
what's going on.

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