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| Started by | Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> |
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| First post | 2017-06-04 03:20 +0200 |
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switching flavors Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> - 2017-06-04 03:20 +0200
Re: switching flavors Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2017-06-04 05:20 +0200
Re: switching flavors Davor Balder <davor@cropakglobal.com> - 2017-06-04 08:30 +0200
Re: switching flavors SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 18:30 +0200
Re: switching flavors Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-04 19:50 +0200
Re: switching flavors SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 23:00 +0200
Re: switching flavors Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 02:00 +0200
Re: switching flavors SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 10:20 +0200
Re: switching flavors Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> - 2017-06-04 20:10 +0200
Re: switching flavors Davor Balder <davor@cropakglobal.com> - 2017-06-04 23:50 +0200
Re: switching flavors Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> - 2017-06-04 18:10 +0200
Re: switching flavors Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> - 2017-06-04 18:10 +0200
| From | Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 03:20 +0200 |
| Subject | switching flavors |
| Message-ID | <tOsmZ-6az-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
I am running Debian Stretch, and like to change to Sid. Can I just change my sources.list to unstable and upgrade? I have run Sid before and am prepared to deal with some breakage.
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| From | Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 05:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOuf8-7nn-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181732 |
On 03/06/17 08:59 PM, Frank M wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch, and like to change to Sid. > > Can I just change my sources.list to unstable and upgrade? > > I have run Sid before and am prepared to deal with some breakage Yes, although I'd do a dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade if using aptitude). Based on some earlier problems with Stretch and the discussions around it, I'm not sure that sid is necessarily less stable. Apparently they dump stuff into Stretch without anyone actually checking to see that it can work with other Stretch libraries.
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| From | Davor Balder <davor@cropakglobal.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 08:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOxcZ-Xi-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181733 |
Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep the things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. I changed the repo to unstable Then I did: apt-get update apt-get upgrade That was it. Cheers D On 04/06/17 13:11, Gary Dale wrote: > On 03/06/17 08:59 PM, Frank M wrote: >> I am running Debian Stretch, and like to change to Sid. >> >> Can I just change my sources.list to unstable and upgrade? >> >> I have run Sid before and am prepared to deal with some breakage > > Yes, although I'd do a dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade if using aptitude). > > Based on some earlier problems with Stretch and the discussions around > it, I'm not sure that sid is necessarily less stable. Apparently they > dump stuff into Stretch without anyone actually checking to see that > it can work with other Stretch libraries. >
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| From | SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 18:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOGzE-7B8-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181734 |
On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: > Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep the > things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. > > I changed the repo to unstable > > Then I did: > > apt-get update > > apt-get upgrade > > That was it. Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's 'apt full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure what the eqivalent command is in apt-get.
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 19:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOHP3-8lJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181746 |
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:20:51 -0400 SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: > > Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep > > the things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. > > > > I changed the repo to unstable > > > > Then I did: > > > > apt-get update > > > > apt-get upgrade > > > > That was it. > > Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's > 'apt full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure > what the eqivalent command is in apt-get. > Other way around, aptitude is safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, it's apt-get which has upgrade and dist-upgrade. apt mixes the two, with upgrade and full-upgrade. -- Joe
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| From | SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-06 23:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tPtK2-5mC-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181749 |
On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 06:44:10PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:20:51 -0400 > SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: > > > Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep > > > the things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. > > > > > > I changed the repo to unstable > > > > > > Then I did: > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > apt-get upgrade > > > > > > That was it. > > > > Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's > > 'apt full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure > > what the eqivalent command is in apt-get. > > > > Other way around, aptitude is safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, it's > apt-get which has upgrade and dist-upgrade. apt mixes the two, with > upgrade and full-upgrade. Not unless it was changed in aptitude just recently, (I've used it for years prior). Aptitude has 'safe-upgrade' yes, but it also has 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade'. So 3 options.
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| From | Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 02:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tPwyd-7dr-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181854 |
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:55:01PM -0400, SDA wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 06:44:10PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:20:51 -0400 > > SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: > > > > Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep > > > > the things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. > > > > > > > > I changed the repo to unstable > > > > > > > > Then I did: > > > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > > > apt-get upgrade > > > > > > > > That was it. > > > > > > Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's > > > 'apt full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure > > > what the eqivalent command is in apt-get. > > > > > > > Other way around, aptitude is safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, it's > > apt-get which has upgrade and dist-upgrade. apt mixes the two, with > > upgrade and full-upgrade. > > Not unless it was changed in aptitude just recently, (I've used it for years > prior). Aptitude has 'safe-upgrade' yes, but it also has 'upgrade' and > 'dist-upgrade'. So 3 options. > >From the man page for aptitude, search for dist-upgrade, in the section on full-upgrade -- "This command was originally named dist-upgrade for historical reasons, and aptitude still recognises dist-upgrade as a synonym for full-upgrade." The man page does not acknowledge just upgrade as a command. According to the man page, the two options are safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, but I can testify that upgrade still works (and I _think_ does a safe-upgrade). Mark
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| From | SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 10:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tPEm5-44h-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181862 |
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 08:57:40AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:55:01PM -0400, SDA wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 06:44:10PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:20:51 -0400 > > > SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: > > > > > Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep > > > > > the things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. > > > > > > > > > > I changed the repo to unstable > > > > > > > > > > Then I did: > > > > > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > > > > > apt-get upgrade > > > > > > > > > > That was it. > > > > > > > > Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's > > > > 'apt full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure > > > > what the eqivalent command is in apt-get. > > > > > > > > > > Other way around, aptitude is safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, it's > > > apt-get which has upgrade and dist-upgrade. apt mixes the two, with > > > upgrade and full-upgrade. > > > > Not unless it was changed in aptitude just recently, (I've used it for years > > prior). Aptitude has 'safe-upgrade' yes, but it also has 'upgrade' and > > 'dist-upgrade'. So 3 options. > > > > >From the man page for aptitude, search for dist-upgrade, in the section > on full-upgrade -- "This command was originally named dist-upgrade for > historical reasons, and aptitude still recognises dist-upgrade as a > synonym for full-upgrade." > > The man page does not acknowledge just upgrade as a command. According > to the man page, the two options are safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, but > I can testify that upgrade still works (and I _think_ does a > safe-upgrade). Ah I see. Thanks Mark, it's been sometime since I've used Aptitude for managing my packages.
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| From | Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 20:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOI8q-fs-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181746 |
On 06/04/2017 01:44 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:20:51 -0400
> SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote:
>>> Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep
>>> the things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful.
>>>
>>> I changed the repo to unstable
>>>
>>> Then I did:
>>>
>>> apt-get update
>>>
>>> apt-get upgrade
>>>
>>> That was it.
>> Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's
>> 'apt full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure
>> what the eqivalent command is in apt-get.
>>
> Other way around, aptitude is safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, it's
> apt-get which has upgrade and dist-upgrade. apt mixes the two, with
> upgrade and full-upgrade.
>
Did an apt full-upgrade. Now running Sid. No problems.
Thanks guys.
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| From | Davor Balder <davor@cropakglobal.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 23:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOLzk-2f9-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181746 |
You're right there should be also apt-get dist-upgrade as the third command on the bottom Cheers D On 05/06/17 02:20, SDA wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Balder wrote: >> Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep the >> things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful. >> >> I changed the repo to unstable >> >> Then I did: >> >> apt-get update >> >> apt-get upgrade >> >> That was it. > Nope, not done yet. You still need to do a full upgrade. In apt it's 'apt > full-upgrade' in aptitude it's 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. Not sure what the > eqivalent command is in apt-get. >
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| From | Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 18:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOGgi-7tg-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181733 |
On 06/04/2017 02:20 AM, Davor Balder wrote:
> Yes - and based on some work I did earlier in the week if you keep the
> things simple I would say your upgrade should be uneventful.
>
> I changed the repo to unstable
>
> Then I did:
>
> apt-get update
>
> apt-get upgrade
>
> That was it.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> D
>
> On 04/06/17 13:11, Gary Dale wrote:
>> On 03/06/17 08:59 PM, Frank M wrote:
>>> I am running Debian Stretch, and like to change to Sid.
>>>
>>> Can I just change my sources.list to unstable and upgrade?
>>>
>>> I have run Sid before and am prepared to deal with some breakage
>> Yes, although I'd do a dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade if using aptitude).
>>
>> Based on some earlier problems with Stretch and the discussions around
>> it, I'm not sure that sid is necessarily less stable. Apparently they
>> dump stuff into Stretch without anyone actually checking to see that
>> it can work with other Stretch libraries.
>>
>
Great. Thanks very much. We'll see how it goes.
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| From | Frank M <debianlist@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-06-04 18:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tOGgh-7tg-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181732 |
On 06/03/2017 11:11 PM, Gary Dale wrote: > On 03/06/17 08:59 PM, Frank M wrote: >> I am running Debian Stretch, and like to change to Sid. >> >> Can I just change my sources.list to unstable and upgrade? >> >> I have run Sid before and am prepared to deal with some breakage > > Yes, although I'd do a dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade if using aptitude). > > Based on some earlier problems with Stretch and the discussions around > it, I'm not sure that sid is necessarily less stable. Apparently they > dump stuff into Stretch without anyone actually checking to see that > it can work with other Stretch libraries. > Thanks Gary. Will do later today.
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