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  Missing update notification on Stretch Gnome Yvan Masson <yvan.masson@openmailbox.org> - 2017-05-27 15:20 +0200
    Re: Missing update notification on Stretch Gnome Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 15:30 +0200
      Re: Missing update notification on Stretch Gnome Yvan Masson <yvan.masson@openmailbox.org> - 2017-05-27 16:50 +0200
        Re: Missing update notification on Stretch Gnome Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 17:20 +0200
          Re: Missing update notification on Stretch Gnome Yvan Masson <yvan.masson@openmailbox.org> - 2017-05-29 15:20 +0200

#181491 — Missing update notification on Stretch Gnome

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Hi,

As said "deloptes" in the previous "Update notifier" thread, there is by
default a notification about pending updates on Stretch with Gnome.
However, I never got any of those notifications.

I have gnome-packagekit installed (which indeed has section "Povides:
update-notifier").

My source.list seems normal:
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main
contrib non-free

software-properties-gtk is installed and seems configured normally.

Any clue of what could be tho problem?

Regards,
Yvan

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#181492

On 27-05-17, Yvan Masson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As said "deloptes" in the previous "Update notifier" thread, there is by
> default a notification about pending updates on Stretch with Gnome.
> However, I never got any of those notifications.
> 
> I have gnome-packagekit installed (which indeed has section "Povides:
> update-notifier").
> 
> My source.list seems normal:
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main non-free contrib
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main
> contrib non-free
> 
> software-properties-gtk is installed and seems configured normally.
> 
> Any clue of what could be tho problem?
> 
> Regards,
> Yvan
> 



Open software and updates and check settings under updates tab?

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>Le 27/05/2017 à 15:27, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
>>> On 27-05-17, Yvan Masson wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As said "deloptes" in the previous "Update notifier" thread, there is by
>>>> default a notification about pending updates on Stretch with Gnome.
>>>> However, I never got any of those notifications.
>>>>
>>>> I have gnome-packagekit installed (which indeed has section "Povides:
>>>> update-notifier").
>>>>
>>>> My source.list seems normal:
>>>> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
>>>> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main non-free contrib
>>>> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main
>>>> contrib non-free
>>>>
>>>> software-properties-gtk is installed and seems configured normally.
>>>>
>>>> Any clue of what could be tho problem?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Yvan
>>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Open software and updates and check settings under updates tab?
>>> 

>> Done, here is what I have:
>>
>> Install updates from:
>>   security updates (stretch/updates)
>>   recommended updates (stretch-updates)
>> Automatically check for updates: daily
>> When there are security updates: display immediately
>> Whene there are other updates: <blank>
>>

> Please, do not reply to me directly, I'm subscribed to the mailing
> list, you should send mail there.

Please apologize, I am used to other mail client where clicking on
"Reply" just rely to the list by default.

> As for those settings, only difference is that I have Download and
> install automatically in security updates, but that should not make
> any difference. There are no security updates for stretch anyway.
> Perhaps some settings under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ are different, or I
> simply have some package installed that you are missing. Are you sure
> that you do not get any notifications at all? Those are located under
> clock and calendar with this version of Gnome. You can open them with
> Super+m combination of keys. Also, if you do update in terminal
> before those notifications get chance to show up, they will not be
> displayed. And once you do update, they are gone too.

The only special configuration I have in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d is a file
to avoid debconf prompts on update:
Dpkg::Options {
   "--force-confdef";
   "--force-confold";
}

Absolutely sure that I did not have any update notifications since
install (2 months ago). As I did not installed gnome metapackage but
instead installed each packages manually, I may have missed an important
package.

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#181501

On 27-05-17, Yvan Masson wrote:
> >Le 27/05/2017 à 15:27, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> >>> On 27-05-17, Yvan Masson wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> As said "deloptes" in the previous "Update notifier" thread, there is by
> >>>> default a notification about pending updates on Stretch with Gnome.
> >>>> However, I never got any of those notifications.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have gnome-packagekit installed (which indeed has section "Povides:
> >>>> update-notifier").
> >>>>
> >>>> My source.list seems normal:
> >>>> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
> >>>> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main non-free contrib
> >>>> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main
> >>>> contrib non-free
> >>>>
> >>>> software-properties-gtk is installed and seems configured normally.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any clue of what could be tho problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Yvan
> >>>>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Open software and updates and check settings under updates tab?
> >>> 
> 
> >> Done, here is what I have:
> >>
> >> Install updates from:
> >>   security updates (stretch/updates)
> >>   recommended updates (stretch-updates)
> >> Automatically check for updates: daily
> >> When there are security updates: display immediately
> >> Whene there are other updates: <blank>
> >>
> 
> > Please, do not reply to me directly, I'm subscribed to the mailing
> > list, you should send mail there.
> 
> Please apologize, I am used to other mail client where clicking on
> "Reply" just rely to the list by default.
> 
No problem, really, been in that situation myself :)

> > As for those settings, only difference is that I have Download and
> > install automatically in security updates, but that should not make
> > any difference. There are no security updates for stretch anyway.
> > Perhaps some settings under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ are different, or I
> > simply have some package installed that you are missing. Are you sure
> > that you do not get any notifications at all? Those are located under
> > clock and calendar with this version of Gnome. You can open them with
> > Super+m combination of keys. Also, if you do update in terminal
> > before those notifications get chance to show up, they will not be
> > displayed. And once you do update, they are gone too.
> 
> The only special configuration I have in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d is a file
> to avoid debconf prompts on update:
> Dpkg::Options {
>    "--force-confdef";
>    "--force-confold";
> }
> 
> Absolutely sure that I did not have any update notifications since
> install (2 months ago). As I did not installed gnome metapackage but
> instead installed each packages manually, I may have missed an important
> package.
> 

Perhaps you could check gnome metapackage vs your gnome packages and see
what is missing? apt-get --simulate install gnome should provide you
with some clues, I guess.

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#181561

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Le 27/05/2017 à 17:14, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> On 27-05-17, Yvan Masson wrote:
>>> Le 27/05/2017 à 15:27, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
>>>>> On 27-05-17, Yvan Masson wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As said "deloptes" in the previous "Update notifier" thread, there is by
>>>>>> default a notification about pending updates on Stretch with Gnome.
>>>>>> However, I never got any of those notifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have gnome-packagekit installed (which indeed has section "Povides:
>>>>>> update-notifier").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My source.list seems normal:
>>>>>> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
>>>>>> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main non-free contrib
>>>>>> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main
>>>>>> contrib non-free
>>>>>>
>>>>>> software-properties-gtk is installed and seems configured normally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any clue of what could be tho problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Yvan
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Open software and updates and check settings under updates tab?
>>>>>
>>
>>>> Done, here is what I have:
>>>>
>>>> Install updates from:
>>>>   security updates (stretch/updates)
>>>>   recommended updates (stretch-updates)
>>>> Automatically check for updates: daily
>>>> When there are security updates: display immediately
>>>> Whene there are other updates: <blank>
>>>>
>>
>>> Please, do not reply to me directly, I'm subscribed to the mailing
>>> list, you should send mail there.
>>
>> Please apologize, I am used to other mail client where clicking on
>> "Reply" just rely to the list by default.
>>
> No problem, really, been in that situation myself :)
> 
>>> As for those settings, only difference is that I have Download and
>>> install automatically in security updates, but that should not make
>>> any difference. There are no security updates for stretch anyway.
>>> Perhaps some settings under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ are different, or I
>>> simply have some package installed that you are missing. Are you sure
>>> that you do not get any notifications at all? Those are located under
>>> clock and calendar with this version of Gnome. You can open them with
>>> Super+m combination of keys. Also, if you do update in terminal
>>> before those notifications get chance to show up, they will not be
>>> displayed. And once you do update, they are gone too.
>>
>> The only special configuration I have in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d is a file
>> to avoid debconf prompts on update:
>> Dpkg::Options {
>>    "--force-confdef";
>>    "--force-confold";
>> }
>>
>> Absolutely sure that I did not have any update notifications since
>> install (2 months ago). As I did not installed gnome metapackage but
>> instead installed each packages manually, I may have missed an important
>> package.
>>
> 
> Perhaps you could check gnome metapackage vs your gnome packages and see
> what is missing? apt-get --simulate install gnome should provide you
> with some clues, I guess.

Good idea, I did not think about this command. Unfortunately, I really
don't see any possible package:
bogofilter
bogofilter-bdb
bogofilter-common
evolution
evolution-common
evolution-plugins
five-or-more
four-in-a-row
gedit-plugins
gir1.2-gdata-0.0
gir1.2-gepub-0.4
gir1.2-git2-glib-1.0
gir1.2-grilo-0.3
gir1.2-gucharmap-2.90
gir1.2-lokdocview-0.1
gir1.2-mediaart-2.0
gir1.2-tracker-1.0
gir1.2-zeitgeist-2.0
gir1.2-zpj-0.0
gnome
gnome-chess
gnome-dictionary
gnome-documents
gnome-games
gnome-klotski
gnome-mahjongg
gnome-mines
gnome-music
gnome-nibbles
gnome-robots
gnome-sudoku
gnome-taquin
gnome-tetravex
hitori
hoichess
iagno
libcryptui0a
libevolution
libgdict-1.0-10
libgdict-common
libgepub0
libgit2-24
libgit2-glib-1.0-0
libgnome-autoar-gtk-0-0
libgnome-games-support-1-2
libgnome-games-support-common
libhttp-parser2.1
liblibreofficekitgtk
libmission-control-plugins0
libpst4
libqqwing2v5
libreoffice-evolution
libreofficekit-data
librygel-renderer-gst-2.6-2
libytnef0
lightsoff
polari
quadrapassel
rygel-playbin
rygel-tracker
seahorse-daemon
swell-foop
tali
telepathy-idle
telepathy-logger
telepathy-mission-control-5
unoconv

The same command with task-gnome-desktop adds only these packages:
hyphen-en-us
libreoffice-help-en-us
mythes-en-us
task-desktop
task-gnome-desktop

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