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| Started by | Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> |
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| First post | 2017-05-21 03:00 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-05-21 10:00 +0200 |
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Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-21 03:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-21 03:50 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 10:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-21 05:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 10:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:50 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 13:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 17:50 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 19:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 22:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 23:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 02:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-22 05:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 06:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 16:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 16:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 16:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 16:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 00:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-22 17:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-05-22 17:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 19:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 22:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-23 00:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 04:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-23 15:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 18:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-23 18:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 00:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 01:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 14:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 15:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 15:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-24 15:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 16:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 16:50 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 21:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 22:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 22:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 22:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 23:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-05-24 23:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 22:50 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 23:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 23:30 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-25 00:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 06:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-26 16:40 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 01:20 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 01:50 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) (was: Oh no something has gone wrong! after...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:10 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 02:40 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:50 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 03:10 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 03:30 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 04:50 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 05:20 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 17:20 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-31 16:20 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-31 16:30 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-31 20:00 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-05-31 23:50 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-05-31 22:00 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-31 22:10 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-31 23:50 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-01 13:20 +0200
Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) (was: Oh no something has gone wrong! after...) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 17:00 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 02:10 +0200
Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 10:00 +0200
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| From | Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 02:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tLy5z-4rv-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181459 |
On 05/26/2017 07:35 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Michael Milliman composed on 2017-05-26 19:06 (UTC-0500): > >> I hadn't checked the posts in the pastebin. As I >> stated, the problem is a little over my head at this point, so I'm not >> sure what the modeset(0) driver being in use actually means, as the OP > > It means he's most likely using the default Stretch Xorg driver configuration > for Intel gfx.... > >> also indicated. At this point, he, and I for that matter, doesn't know >> even whether that is correct, and if not what the alternative is or how >> to configure for that alternative. > The short story is that for some Intel users the Intel driver works better, for > other Intel users Xorg's integral modeset(0) driver works better, and for some > Intel users, neither are satisfactory. Whether either driver is "correct" > depends on the particular gfx hardware version. > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX > is the only default Intel driver change announcement I can recall seeing. > OK, so the question is, since he is using the default modeset(0) driver, what can he do,if anything, to install and try the Intel driver instead and see if it works better? -- 73's, WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 03:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tLyoV-4NQ-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181460 |
Michael Milliman composed on 2017-05-26 19:40 (UTC-0500): > OK, so the question is, since he is using the default modeset(0) driver, > what can he do,if anything, to install and try the Intel driver instead > and see if it works better? In https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00781.html I explained how, but he hasn't written here whether he tried or not. I asked for another Xorg.0.log, in order to find that out (among other things), but that hasn't happened. If the Intel driver has already been tried, then his focus probably needs to be shifted to hunting down anything to be tried that's specific to his Braswell chipset generation. One possible thing to try (which AFAICT can't work in Gnome), is disabling of compositing. Whether Mate can work with compositing disabled I have no idea, but I know it can in Plasma and TDE, and most likely also in IceWM, LXDE and other lightweights. I do it, when necessary, or desirable, globally, via /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 03:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tLyIn-4Vw-165@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181465 |
On 05/26/2017 08:03 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Michael Milliman composed on 2017-05-26 19:40 (UTC-0500): > >> OK, so the question is, since he is using the default modeset(0) driver, >> what can he do,if anything, to install and try the Intel driver instead >> and see if it works better? > > In https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00781.html I explained how, > but he hasn't written here whether he tried or not. I asked for another > Xorg.0.log, in order to find that out (among other things), but that hasn't > happened. > Yes, I remember that post earlier in the thread. I have however, slept since then :) The OP has not AFAICT performed the cp command to install the xorg.conf file. Does this cp command overwrite an existing xorg.conf. AIR, the xorg.conf is no longer required (of course I've slept several times since I think I saw that :) ). If it is overwriting, perhaps it would be a good idea if the OP preserved the existing xorg.conf in case the new one borks the system worse (always possible when messing with the drivers). > If the Intel driver has already been tried, then his focus probably needs to be > shifted to hunting down anything to be tried that's specific to his Braswell > chipset generation. > > One possible thing to try (which AFAICT can't work in Gnome), is disabling of > compositing. Whether Mate can work with compositing disabled ... As Mate is a fork of Gnome (Gnome 2 to be exact) I would suspect that if Gnome will not work without compositing, Mate would not either. But, the current Gnome desktop is Gnome3, and has been for some time, so perhaps the Mate fork is early enough that it may run without compositing (but I wouldn't put MY money on it. As I run Mate, I guess I could try it and see. As I know what changes I'm making, if I bork the system, I can always fix it with a console log-in :). ...I have no idea, but > I know it can in Plasma and TDE, and most likely also in IceWM, LXDE and other > lightweights. I do it, when necessary, or desirable, globally, via > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf: Well, as I wrote this, I took a look, and on my system (Stretch, with an amd processor and Radeon graphics) the etc/X11/xord.conf.d/ directory does not even exist. > > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Disable" > EndSection > -- 73's, WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 04:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tLzXH-5Mf-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181471 |
Michael Milliman composed on 2017-05-26 20:23 (UTC-0500): > ...Does this cp command overwrite an existing > xorg.conf. AIR, the xorg.conf is no longer required (of course I've > slept several times since I think I saw that :) ). xorg.conf is an optional file that is unnecessary and not present for the vast majority of users for all generations of Xorg going back too far to remember, probably getting close to 10 years, maybe longer. The primary and large exception is users of proprietary NVidia driver users. > If it is overwriting, > perhaps it would be a good idea if the OP preserved the existing > xorg.conf in case the new one borks the system worse (always possible > when messing with the drivers). I don't know of any reason why a fresh Stretch installation to Intel gfx would have xorg.conf. He wouldn't be overwriting an existing unless he created it himself. > Well, as I wrote this, I took a look, and on my system (Stretch, with an > amd processor and Radeon graphics) the etc/X11/xord.conf.d/ directory > does not even exist. Both xorg.conf and xorg.conf.d/ are optional. Most distros either create an empty xorg.conf.d/, or populate one with a small number of tweaks specific to various combinations of hardware and/or software. A common one contains exclusively keyboard configuration. Mine enables Ctrl-Alt-BS, which IIRC is disabled by default in upstream Xorg. xorg.conf is a comprehensive file. xorg.conf.d/ is designed for presence of multiple files, each optional, each designed to address specific components. IIRC, presence in xorg.conf.d/ inconsistent with anything in xorg.conf if it exists overrides it. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 05:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tLAqJ-6c2-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181474 |
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Looks like this will probably top-post, or perhaps not have any quoted material...I'm using mobile device at the moment, my apologies. The last time I had to mess with anything Xorg was with the xorg.conf filr, but that may well have been 10+ years ago. I've probably forgotten more than I ever knew about it now. The conf file vs. conf.d directory has become a common motif these days. I use the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory extensively on my system; it is the same principle (other than not being optional). Thanks for all the info, Felix, I have learned a lot, though this was not originally my thread. Hopefully, the OP has learned some as well. 73's, de WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray On May 26, 2017 21:48, "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote: Michael Milliman composed on 2017-05-26 20:23 (UTC-0500): > ...Does this cp command overwrite an existing > xorg.conf. AIR, the xorg.conf is no longer required (of course I've > slept several times since I think I saw that :) ). xorg.conf is an optional file that is unnecessary and not present for the vast majority of users for all generations of Xorg going back too far to remember, probably getting close to 10 years, maybe longer. The primary and large exception is users of proprietary NVidia driver users. > If it is overwriting, > perhaps it would be a good idea if the OP preserved the existing > xorg.conf in case the new one borks the system worse (always possible > when messing with the drivers). I don't know of any reason why a fresh Stretch installation to Intel gfx would have xorg.conf. He wouldn't be overwriting an existing unless he created it himself. > Well, as I wrote this, I took a look, and on my system (Stretch, with an > amd processor and Radeon graphics) the etc/X11/xord.conf.d/ directory > does not even exist. Both xorg.conf and xorg.conf.d/ are optional. Most distros either create an empty xorg.conf.d/, or populate one with a small number of tweaks specific to various combinations of hardware and/or software. A common one contains exclusively keyboard configuration. Mine enables Ctrl-Alt-BS, which IIRC is disabled by default in upstream Xorg. xorg.conf is a comprehensive file. xorg.conf.d/ is designed for presence of multiple files, each optional, each designed to address specific components. IIRC, presence in xorg.conf.d/ inconsistent with anything in xorg.conf if it exists overrides it. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 17:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tLLFv-5HI-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181476 |
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Hello, I am looking at 2 new threads in my Inbox, which one are we going to follow ??I pasted my new Xorg.log here https://paste.debian.net/945756 The situation has definitely improved, In my previous post (in the other thread) I used the word completely, because I was missing the cp command. I checked to see if there was an xorg.conf file there, there wasnt, so I went ahead and copied.thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it,
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| From | Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 16:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNcDE-5Wy-35@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181500 |
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Hello, I was just wondering if you could confirm that I am now using the intel driver, I dont know how to check this in my Xorg log. I am still having an issue I do believe pertains to Gnome. The Applications menu in Gnome Classic is sluggish at best, as I described before, moving the mouse around it starts to dramatically increase cpu use, if I am playing a video and then go to this menu, the video starts freezing. Also, my scrolling is still not as smooth as it is in Windows (sorry for this comparison, but it is what I have). Or, for example, the Gnome animations upon closing or opening a window or in the Desktop Overview, are not smooth. I believe I still dont have the best graphics configuration and would like more help. I have pasted my Xorg.log here https://paste.debian.net/955691thanks a lot, On Sat, May 27, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Hello, I am looking at 2 new threads in my Inbox, which one are we > going to follow ??> I pasted my new Xorg.log here https://paste.debian.net/945756 > The situation has definitely improved, > In my previous post (in the other thread) I used the word completely, > because I was missing the cp command. I checked to see if there was an > xorg.conf file there, there wasnt, so I went ahead and copied.> thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it, > > > > >
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 16:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNcNj-5ZF-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181617 |
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 09:15:20AM -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > I was just wondering if you could confirm that I am now using the intel > driver, I dont know how to check this in my Xorg log. You simply read it until you find the driver lines. > I have pasted my Xorg.log here > https://paste.debian.net/955691thanks a lot, Please make sure you put whitespace after the URL. From https://paste.debian.net/955691 : 69 [ 57.769] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: 70 i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 71 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, 72 Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, 73 GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43 74 [ 57.772] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics 75 [ 57.772] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 76 [ 57.772] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics etc. It's not that hard to find. Compare to your previous X log that had modeset driver lines.
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| From | Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 20:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNg4x-7XU-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181618 |
Le 31/05/2017 à 16:25, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 09:15:20AM -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: >> I was just wondering if you could confirm that I am now using the intel >> driver, I dont know how to check this in my Xorg log. > > You simply read it until you find the driver lines. > > https://paste.debian.net/955691 : > > 69 [ 57.769] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: > 70 i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, > 71 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, > 72 Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, > 73 GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43 > 74 [ 57.772] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) HD Graphics > 75 [ 57.772] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics > 76 [ 57.772] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Iris(TM) Pro Graphics The above lines are not enough. They just mean that the intel driver has been loaded, not that it is actually used. You must read further for many more "intel" lines.
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| From | Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 23:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNjF7-25j-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181618 |
On 01/06/17 02:25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> I have pasted my Xorg.log here >> https://paste.debian.net/955691thanks a lot, > Please make sure you put whitespace after the URL. From > https://paste.debian.net/955691 : Or surround the URL with angle brackets like<https://paste.debian.net/955691>this to delimit it from surrounding text. Appendix C of RFC 3986 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#appendix-C> recommends delimiting URIs in plain text with angle brackets. This is especially useful for URLs used in flowing text where the interpretation of trailing punctuation might be ambiguous. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> Director Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/> New Zealand
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 22:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNhWG-Ge-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181617 |
On 2017-05-31, Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > Hello, > I was just wondering if you could confirm that I am now using the intel > driver, I dont know how to check this in my Xorg log. I am still having This used to grep accurately for the pertinent info (if things haven't changed--I'm still on Wheezy (asthmatic cough)): grep -B4 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (adjust path to log to wherever your log is living if it is living elsewhere though I doubt it).
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 22:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNi6m-YB-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181622 |
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 07:50:09PM +0000, Curt wrote: > This used to grep accurately for the pertinent info (if things haven't > changed--I'm still on Wheezy (asthmatic cough)): > > grep -B4 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > (adjust path to log to wherever your log is living if it is living > elsewhere though I doubt it). Just for posterity, in stretch, the Xorg.0.log file is in /var/log/ if you run startx as root, or use a display manager; or ~/.local/share/xorg/ if you run startx as a non-root user. (Also, you may want grep -FB4 there, since you're using . as a literal dot rather than a single-character wildcard expression. Not likely to matter much in reality, but hey.)
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| From | Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2017-05-31 23:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNjF7-25j-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181622 |
On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 19:50 +0000, Curt wrote: > On 2017-05-31, Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I was just wondering if you could confirm that I am now using the > > intel > > driver, I dont know how to check this in my Xorg log. I am still > > having > > This used to grep accurately for the pertinent info (if things > haven't > changed--I'm still on Wheezy (asthmatic cough)): > > grep -B4 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > (adjust path to log to wherever your log is living if it is living > elsewhere though I doubt it). > Thanks guys, the output of grep -B4 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log is [ 58.352] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [ 58.353] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [ 58.380] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 58.380] compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 2.99.917 [ 58.380] Module class: X.Org Video Driver So that makes it clear, the intel driver is bein used, is there anything else I can do to improve my graphics. Is it possible that installing Mate caused trouble of some sort. I tell you the truth, my solution to many problems has been to simply reinstall the system. I believe my system is not correctly configured in some way, for example, composing this email in Evolution in the little composer window, if I want to delete several words of text and press and hold my backspace key, it goes back at a certain speed, so I have to wait to see how back I will be taken with the time I have held pressed the backspace key. Performance is just not good in general, and I believe this laptop should certainly be able to handle Gnome, and guessing I would have issues with any other DE. I appreciate any help. For now, my plan, when I have time, is to reinstall Debian Stretch, dont touch anything and configure to load intel driver, and hope that any issues have been resolved. thanks,
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-01 13:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) |
| Message-ID | <tNwiZ-1RP-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181626 |
On 05/31/2017 04:41 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > [snip] > > ... Is it possible that > installing Mate caused trouble of some sort. ... > I appreciate any help. For now, my plan, when I have time, is to > reinstall Debian Stretch, dont touch anything and configure to load > intel driver, and hope that any issues have been resolved. > thanks, > Stretch is due to make the transition from Testing to Stable in about two weeks IIRC. There are several upstream bug fixes for Mate in the works for that transition.
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| From | Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2017-05-27 17:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) (was: Oh no something has gone wrong! after...) |
| Message-ID | <tLLm9-5lF-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181456 |
> However, in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00767.html he > provided a pastebin (now expired) of Xorg.0.log that reported the > modeset(0) > driver in use. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00781.html explained how > he > could try configuring use of the Intel driver. Hi. thanks, I have followed those instructions completely now and the situation improved notably, scrolling my Inbox and in LibreOffice is better. I also noticed that right after logging in, previously the screen would show the black terminal screen (again) while loading the desktop, now I see a prettier gray Gnome background at that time. I have also uninstalled Mate (uninstalled all packages with "mate" string in them), it seemed to make things (graphics) worst, and also choosing an item from Places in the top bar in Gnome Classic would open Caja instead of Files, it also made the Applications menu notably slower. Should I take any other steps at completely removing Mate?? I dont know if my graphics are perfect now, but at least I can work nicely in my PC now. Isnt using the Intel driver usually a better option than using another?? I really need to learn about this (modeset) things to be able to figure out what driver I am using. thanks a lot,
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-24 02:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. |
| Message-ID | <tKs2d-2wM-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181274 |
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 08:24 (UTC-0500): > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes Playback of what? With which player? All players? SMplayer? VLC? MPV? Kodi? > unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the > recommendations here > (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to > install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for > firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what > non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I Show us what firmware is currently installed: dpkg -l | grep mware If firmware-linux-free is already installed, as it should be, unless there's something in firmware-misc-nonfree and it is not installed, I don't think adding any more firmware will help you. Realtek is only ever about network or sound. > missing. I am happy my sytem is working, but graphics work better in> Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me Now that you've switched to Stretch we need to see /var/log/Xorg.0 again. Send it to https://paste.debian.net/ It might be helpful to report your problem on the Intel video driver mailing list: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-21 10:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. |
| Message-ID | <tJtWq-4XS-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181162 |
On 05/20/2017 05:56 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > I had installed Windows 10 and Debian 8.8 (with LXDE) in dual boot > (UEFI) and everything was working. I wanted to reinstall Debian, so I > installed Debian again by deleting the debian partitions (I think > correctly) using the Debian installer partitioner and choosing the > Guided use largest continuous space option, this time I installed with > the Gnome desktop environment. I am getting a Oh No, Something has gone > wrong message, the system cannot recover' message after booting into > Debian. Should I have deleted the prior Debian entry in the EFI > partition? does this have anything to do with this error? Is there any > other solution to this problem? > thanks a lot, No, you should NOT have deleted the partition, now your partition table is messed up. All you had to do was format or better yet just delete the files and reinstall, by deleting the files you can save /home. But now you need to look at that drive with a partition editor like gparted, maybe use a live-cd with gparted installed OR the wheezy live disc will let you install gparted. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
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