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Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

Started byAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
First post2017-05-21 03:00 +0200
Last post2017-05-21 10:00 +0200
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  Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-21 03:00 +0200
    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-21 03:50 +0200
      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 10:10 +0200
    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-21 05:10 +0200
    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 10:00 +0200
      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:10 +0200
        Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:30 +0200
          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:50 +0200
            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 13:30 +0200
            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 17:50 +0200
              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 19:30 +0200
                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 22:00 +0200
                  Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 23:00 +0200
                    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 02:30 +0200
                      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-22 05:40 +0200
                      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 06:00 +0200
                        Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 16:00 +0200
                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 16:10 +0200
                            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 16:20 +0200
                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 16:40 +0200
                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 00:30 +0200
                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-22 17:00 +0200
                            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-05-22 17:10 +0200
                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-22 19:30 +0200
                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 22:20 +0200
                                  Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-23 00:00 +0200
                      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 04:20 +0200
                        Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-23 15:30 +0200
                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 18:00 +0200
                            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-23 18:10 +0200
                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 00:10 +0200
                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 01:00 +0200
                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 14:20 +0200
                                  Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 15:00 +0200
                                    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 15:00 +0200
                                      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-24 15:40 +0200
                                        Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 16:20 +0200
                                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:40 +0200
                                            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 16:50 +0200
                                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 21:40 +0200
                                            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 22:10 +0200
                                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 22:40 +0200
                                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 22:40 +0200
                                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 23:10 +0200
                                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-05-24 23:10 +0200
                                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-24 22:50 +0200
                                                Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-24 23:00 +0200
                                                  Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 23:30 +0200
                                                    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-25 00:00 +0200
                                      Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 06:20 +0200
                                        Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-26 16:40 +0200
                                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 01:20 +0200
                                            Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 01:50 +0200
                                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
                                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
                                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
                                              Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
                                            Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) (was: Oh no  something has gone wrong! after...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 02:00 +0200
                                              Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:10 +0200
                                                Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 02:40 +0200
                                                  Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 02:50 +0200
                                                    Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 03:10 +0200
                                                      Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 03:30 +0200
                                                        Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-27 04:50 +0200
                                                          Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 05:20 +0200
                                                            Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 17:20 +0200
                                                              Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-31 16:20 +0200
                                                                Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-31 16:30 +0200
                                                                  Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-31 20:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-05-31 23:50 +0200
                                                                Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-05-31 22:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-31 22:10 +0200
                                                                  Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-31 23:50 +0200
                                                                    Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-01 13:20 +0200
                                              Re: Poor X performance with Intel 8086:22b1 (Braswell) (was: Oh no  something has gone wrong! after...) Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-05-27 17:00 +0200
                          Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-24 02:10 +0200
    Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and  Gnome. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 10:00 +0200

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#181263

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-23 00:30 +0200
Message-ID<tK3ZU-34F-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181245
On Monday 22 May 2017 15:12:39 Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines
> and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ??

If you are installing from scratch, yes.  If you are upgrading, go straight 
from "stable" or "jessie" to "stretch", and don't bother with "testing".

Lisi

> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:05 AM, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 22 May 2017 at 08:54:59 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
> > > I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
> > > Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
> > > that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release
> >
> > You already have Stretch installed. Ok, it is not yet released as stable
> > but it is nearly there. Make sure your sources.list has stretch and not
> > testing for the deb lines to keep the machine on stable.
> >
> > > right? I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
> > > for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
> > > packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
> > > that didn't work.
> >
> > At this stage of the freeze you are not risking much in terms of
> > stability. No need to be afraid.
> >
> > --
> > Brian.

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#181251

FromFungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com>
Date2017-05-22 17:00 +0200
Message-ID<tJWYq-6XB-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181243

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Subject: Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.
UTC Time: May 22, 2017 1:54 PM
From: anilduggirala@fastmail.fm

Thanks a lot Felix and Micheal.
I will follow your advice, and for the first time ever, use Debian
Testing. I guess when Stretch is released I will be able to install
that, correct? So I will be able to go back to using a stable release
right?

FAQ101 No, if you chose testing (replace in sources.list or in synaptics list the word jessie with testing) once stretch is stable you will be there, just like if you had just installed Debian9 from the disk and added all your current packages. But if you don't replace testing with stretch you will end up one step beyond (debian 10). So it is best to replace jessie with stretch in your repository/sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list use root or sudo to edit). Then eventually you will be running stretch stable, which might be tomorrow or next month.

I'm really afraid of testing, the whole reason I like Debian is
for its stability, but using stable would require me to install various
packages from backports maybe?? I did try installing that newer kernel,
that didn't work.

How did you try that? Not all lin4. is compatible with stretch.
The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it. I have run stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware resources. With all the fooling around I do I have yet to see anything break or freeze or do anything unexpected in sid. Stretch is so stable it is boring :) Now Jessie, that is a really unstable system ;b .... even your graphics don't like it.

thanks a lot,

(AK)

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#181252

FromKent West <westk@acu.edu>
Date2017-05-22 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<tJX86-7gH-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181251

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On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have run
> stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense that sid
> is even lighter and more stable in hardware resources.  With all the
> fooling around I do I have yet to see anything break or freeze or do
> anything unexpected in sid.  Stretch is so stable it is boring :)   Now
> Jessie, that is a really unstable system ;b  .... even your graphics don't
> like it.
>

I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although there's
often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a day and a
half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only recall one time (8
years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious enough that it actually
borked my box so I couldn't do anything with it. But even that, as I
recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I either manually fixed it, or
just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited until the breakage "fixed itself".
The conclusion I have come to after all these years is that for a
workstation that doesn't have a mission-critical need for five-9's uptime,
sid/unstable is a good solution for staying up-to-date and happy, but it's
probably not suitable for a mission-critical box.


-- 
Kent West                    <")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

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#181255

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-22 19:30 +0200
Message-ID<tJZjA-7i-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181252

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thanks a lot Fungi,
I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3
from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for
'jessie', can I do that?thanks a lot,

P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi


On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kent West wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All
> <fungilife@protonmail.com> wrote:>> 
>> 
>> The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have run
>> stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a sense
>> that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware resources.  With
>> all the fooling around I do I have yet to see anything break or
>> freeze or do anything unexpected in sid.  Stretch is so stable it is
>> boring :)   Now Jessie, that is a really unstable system ;b  ....
>> even your graphics don't like it.> 
> I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although
> there's often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a
> day and a half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only
> recall one time (8 years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious
> enough that it actually borked my box so I couldn't do anything with
> it. But even that, as I recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I
> either manually fixed it, or just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited
> until the breakage "fixed itself". The conclusion I have come to after
> all these years is that for a workstation that doesn't have a mission-
> critical need for five-9's uptime, sid/unstable is a good solution for
> staying up-to-date and happy, but it's probably not suitable for a mission-
> critical box.> 
> 
> -- 
> Kent West                    <")))>< 
> Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

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#181257 — Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

FromMichael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-22 22:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.
Message-ID<tK1Y6-1N3-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181255

On 05/22/2017 12:28 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> thanks a lot Fungi,
> I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3
> from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for
> 'jessie', can I do that?
> thanks a lot,
> 
No, after installing, you want to change testing for stretch...in fact,
I would use stretch just to start with, then no change will be needed
after installation.  If you do a fresh install with the stretch
installation CD/DVD, then it should handle the sources.list file for
you, and you won't have to change anything.

> P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kent West wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com
>> <mailto:fungilife@protonmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have
>>     run stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a
>>     sense that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware
>>     resources.  With all the fooling around I do I have yet to see
>>     anything break or freeze or do anything unexpected in sid. 
>>     Stretch is so stable it is boring :)   Now Jessie, that is a
>>     really unstable system ;b  .... even your graphics don't like it.
>>
>>
>> I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although
>> there's often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a
>> day and a half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only
>> recall one time (8 years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious
>> enough that it actually borked my box so I couldn't do anything with
>> it. But even that, as I recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I
>> either manually fixed it, or just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited
>> until the breakage "fixed itself". The conclusion I have come to after
>> all these years is that for a workstation that doesn't have a
>> mission-critical need for five-9's uptime, sid/unstable is a good
>> solution for staying up-to-date and happy, but it's probably not
>> suitable for a mission-critical box.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Kent West                    <")))><
>> Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
> 

-- 
73's,
WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray

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#181261

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-23 00:00 +0200
Message-ID<tK3wR-2DV-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181257
Thanks a lot, thanks Micheal,

On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 03:18 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/22/2017 12:28 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > thanks a lot Fungi,
> > I want to reinstall the whole system, so I will download Strech RC 3
> > from here https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> > and then after finishing installation will change 'testing' for
> > 'jessie', can I do that?
> > thanks a lot,
> > 
> No, after installing, you want to change testing for stretch...in fact,
> I would use stretch just to start with, then no change will be needed
> after installation.  If you do a fresh install with the stretch
> installation CD/DVD, then it should handle the sources.list file for
> you, and you won't have to change anything.
> 
> > P.S. sorry for spamming your email Fungi
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Kent West wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com
> >> <mailto:fungilife@protonmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     The only thing to fear is stability, or too much of it.  I have
> >>     run stretch and sid (testing and unstable currently) and I get a
> >>     sense that sid is even lighter and more stable in hardware
> >>     resources.  With all the fooling around I do I have yet to see
> >>     anything break or freeze or do anything unexpected in sid. 
> >>     Stretch is so stable it is boring :)   Now Jessie, that is a
> >>     really unstable system ;b  .... even your graphics don't like it.
> >>
> >>
> >> I have run sid (unstable) for years (a decade? more?), and although
> >> there's often little breakages (uh oh, can't install Firefox; wait a
> >> day and a half; okay, all better now, it's installed), I can only
> >> recall one time (8 years ago? 10?) when the breakage was serious
> >> enough that it actually borked my box so I couldn't do anything with
> >> it. But even that, as I recall, only had me broken a day or so, as I
> >> either manually fixed it, or just reinstalled a fresh sid, or waited
> >> until the breakage "fixed itself". The conclusion I have come to after
> >> all these years is that for a workstation that doesn't have a
> >> mission-critical need for five-9's uptime, sid/unstable is a good
> >> solution for staying up-to-date and happy, but it's probably not
> >> suitable for a mission-critical box.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Kent West                    <")))><
> >> Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 73's,
> WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray
> 

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#181269 — Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-23 04:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.
Message-ID<tK7Au-5p7-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181221
On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full
> response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible graphics
> and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from backports (4.9),
> these problems were resolved. I have tried installing Linux-image 4.9
> from backports (using the command line) now again, the problem persists.
> However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who said he has the
> exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running Gnome-Classic
> (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem but have
> received no response from him.
> All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> Outputs:
> inxi commands say 'command not found'
> lspci .... :
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> (rev 35)
>
> I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
>
> Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
>
> thanks a lot,

If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg 
and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

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#181274

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-23 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<tKi2S-3Kj-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181269
Hello, 
I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes
unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
recommendations here
(https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I
missing. I am happy my system is working, but graphics work better in
Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me.
thanks a lot,

On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full
> > response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible graphics
> > and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from backports (4.9),
> > these problems were resolved. I have tried installing Linux-image 4.9
> > from backports (using the command line) now again, the problem persists.
> > However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who said he has the
> > exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running Gnome-Classic
> > (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem but have
> > received no response from him.
> > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > Outputs:
> > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > lspci .... :
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > (rev 35)
> >
> > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> >
> > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> >
> > thanks a lot,
> 
> If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg 
> and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
> -- 
> Jimmy Johnson
> 
> Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
> Registered Linux User #380263
> 

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#181282

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-23 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<tKko2-5cc-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181274
On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Hello,
> I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
> interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
> playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes
> unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
> recommendations here
> (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
> install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
> firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
> non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I
> missing. I am happy my system is working, but graphics work better in
> Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me.
> thanks a lot,

What is your graphics card?

Lisi
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and
> > > full response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> > > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible
> > > graphics and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from
> > > backports (4.9), these problems were resolved. I have tried installing
> > > Linux-image 4.9 from backports (using the command line) now again, the
> > > problem persists. However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who
> > > said he has the exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running
> > > Gnome-Classic (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem
> > > but have received no response from him.
> > > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > > Outputs:
> > > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > > lspci .... :
> > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > > (rev 35)
> > >
> > > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> > >
> > > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> > >
> > > thanks a lot,
> >
> > If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg
> > and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
> > --
> > Jimmy Johnson
> >
> > Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
> > Registered Linux User #380263

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#181283

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-23 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<tKkxI-5uz-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181282
Im not sure, this is the output from lspci 
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
[8086:22b1] (rev 21)
as I posted before.

On Tue, May 23, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
> > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
> > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes
> > unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
> > recommendations here
> > (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
> > install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
> > firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
> > non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I
> > missing. I am happy my system is working, but graphics work better in
> > Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me.
> > thanks a lot,
> 
> What is your graphics card?
> 
> Lisi
> >
> > On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > > On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > > > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and
> > > > full response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > > > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > > > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> > > > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible
> > > > graphics and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from
> > > > backports (4.9), these problems were resolved. I have tried installing
> > > > Linux-image 4.9 from backports (using the command line) now again, the
> > > > problem persists. However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who
> > > > said he has the exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running
> > > > Gnome-Classic (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem
> > > > but have received no response from him.
> > > > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > > > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > > > Outputs:
> > > > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > > > lspci .... :
> > > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > > > (rev 35)
> > > >
> > > > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> > > >
> > > > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> > > >
> > > > thanks a lot,
> > >
> > > If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg
> > > and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
> > > --
> > > Jimmy Johnson
> > >
> > > Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
> > > Registered Linux User #380263
> 

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#181297 — Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2017-05-24 00:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.
Message-ID<tKqa7-18X-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181283
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500):

> Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100):

>> What is your graphics card?

> Im not sure, this is the output from lspci 
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:22b1] (rev 21)
> as I posted before.

That's incomplete as before, so we have to look it up.

You were asked:

	inxi -c0 -G
or
	inxi -c0 -v1
or
	lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'

Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months after
Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.

Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#181299

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-24 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<tKqWu-1xx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181297
On Tuesday 23 May 2017 23:06:44 Felix Miata wrote:
> Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500):
> > Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100):
> >> What is your graphics card?
> >
> > Im not sure, this is the output from lspci
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22b1] (rev 21)
> > as I posted before.
>
> That's incomplete as before, so we have to look it up.
>
> You were asked:
>
> 	inxi -c0 -G
> or
> 	inxi -c0 -v1
> or
> 	lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'
>
> Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months
> after Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
>
> Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.

He says that it isn't, so there may be a driver missing??  It is hard to tell 
since he is so reluctant to provide information. :-(

Lisi

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#181314

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2017-05-24 14:20 +0200
Message-ID<tKDqF-2fU-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181297
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months after
> Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
> 
> Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.

We had a user with a Braswell system (Intel Pentium N3710) in IRC
yesterday, and he was not even able to *boot* into stretch normally
(hard-locked with a black screen and no logs written to disk, even in
rescue mode, unless he suppled the "nomodeset" kernel option).  He could
boot jessie, but the graphics ran without acceleration.

There's definitely some room for improvement in Debian's support of
Intel Braswell systems.  But we'll need a whole lot more information.

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#181317

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-24 15:00 +0200
Message-ID<tKE3n-2t8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181314
Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics
acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video
with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then after some while starts
to freeze badly making it unwatchabel.
the output from inxi -c0 -G
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: N/A
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 405 (Braswell)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6

and from lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics
Controller [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
	x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:1290]
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915
00:0b.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power
Management Controller [8086:22dc] (rev 35)

and from dpkg -l | grep mware
ii  firmware-realtek                      20161130-2                    
      all          Binary firmware for Realtek wired/wifi/BT adapters
ii  libfwupd1:amd64                       0.7.4-2                       
      amd64        Firmware update daemon library
ii  xserver-xorg-video-vmware             1:13.2.1-1+b1                 
      amd64        X.Org X server -- VMware display driver

Thanks a lot, 


On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:18 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> > important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months after
> > Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
> > 
> > Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.
> 
> We had a user with a Braswell system (Intel Pentium N3710) in IRC
> yesterday, and he was not even able to *boot* into stretch normally
> (hard-locked with a black screen and no logs written to disk, even in
> rescue mode, unless he suppled the "nomodeset" kernel option).  He could
> boot jessie, but the graphics ran without acceleration.
> 
> There's definitely some room for improvement in Debian's support of
> Intel Braswell systems.  But we'll need a whole lot more information.
> 

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#181318

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-24 15:00 +0200
Message-ID<tKE3o-2t8-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181317
Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, 


On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:52 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics
> acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video
> with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then after some while starts
> to freeze badly making it unwatchabel.
> the output from inxi -c0 -G
> Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
> x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
>            Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: N/A
>            Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
>            GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 405 (Braswell)
>            GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6
> 
> and from lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
> Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics
> Controller [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
> 	x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:1290]
> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
> 	Kernel modules: i915
> 00:0b.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation
> Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power
> Management Controller [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> 
> and from dpkg -l | grep mware
> ii  firmware-realtek                      20161130-2                    
>       all          Binary firmware for Realtek wired/wifi/BT adapters
> ii  libfwupd1:amd64                       0.7.4-2                       
>       amd64        Firmware update daemon library
> ii  xserver-xorg-video-vmware             1:13.2.1-1+b1                 
>       amd64        X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
> 
> Thanks a lot, 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:18 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> > > important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months after
> > > Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
> > > 
> > > Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.
> > 
> > We had a user with a Braswell system (Intel Pentium N3710) in IRC
> > yesterday, and he was not even able to *boot* into stretch normally
> > (hard-locked with a black screen and no logs written to disk, even in
> > rescue mode, unless he suppled the "nomodeset" kernel option).  He could
> > boot jessie, but the graphics ran without acceleration.
> > 
> > There's definitely some room for improvement in Debian's support of
> > Intel Braswell systems.  But we'll need a whole lot more information.
> > 
> 

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#181320 — Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-05-24 15:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.
Message-ID<tKEG6-2V1-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181318
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 07:57:17 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:

> Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log,

$HOME/.local/share/xorg

-- 
Brian.

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#181325

FromAnil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm>
Date2017-05-24 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<tKFiO-3ph-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181320
hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243
Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop?
I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left
from previous Jessie.
swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case?
thanks a lot,

On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 08:32 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 24 May 2017 at 07:57:17 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> 
> > Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log,
> 
> $HOME/.local/share/xorg
> 
> -- 
> Brian.
> 

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#181326

FromFungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com>
Date2017-05-24 16:40 +0200
Message-ID<tKFCa-3vO-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181325

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

UTC Time: May 24, 2017 2:12 PM
From: anilduggirala@fastmail.fm

hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243

[ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8?
I assume jessie was installed and then it was upgraded to stretch, right?
So some of the X and dm configuration files were based on Jessie and were just revised based on those settings.
That's what I think. I may be very wrong as my knowledge is incomplete.

Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop?

I don't know, I've never had one. I know that lenovo dell hp stuff are well tested and ironed out in all systems, maybe some sony toshiba etc. I know nothing of asus, I've used some of their mb building and repairing stuff.

I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left
from previous Jessie.
swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case?
thanks a lot,

It was a suggestion of an easy and safe thing to do. It takes 5-10' round trip, or 2 reboots.
If I remember right you have lxde. Between that and Xofc it is the safest bet to figure out what may be wrong, the rest of the desktops I believe are much more demanding and have more to go wrong with.

The official stretch installer will not be out till it becomes stable. There is a beta version of it out but I've never used it. I doubt it would say 3.16 on it though. You can't get to GT from a v6 mustang that easy :)

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#181327

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2017-05-24 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<tKFLQ-3z2-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181326
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:34:22AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
> hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243
> 
> [ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
> 6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8?

> The official stretch installer will not be out till it becomes stable. There
> is a beta version of it out but I've never used it. I doubt it would say 3.16
> on it though. You can't get to GT from a v6 mustang that easy :)

You're misinterpreting the X log.  The lines in question actually say:

[    65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
[    65.388] Current Operating System: Linux laptopanil 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.18-1 (2017-03-30) x86_64
[    65.388] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=47d1db29-628c-4a50-9ab1-808217075da8 ro quiet

Which is to say, this system is running kernel package 4.9.0-2-amd64,
but the X server was *built* by the Debian maintainers under kernel
package 3.16.0-4-amd64.  Which is not relevant to the current problem
as far as I'm aware.

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#181339 — Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2017-05-24 21:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.
Message-ID<tKKiu-6rO-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#181325
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-24 09:12 (UTC-0500):

> hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243
> Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop?
> I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left
> from previous Jessie.
> swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case?

Given that that log contains no (EE) errors, switching to a different DE might
be a solution.

That log also reports the modeset(0) driver is in use. It's possible that the
Intel driver would work better. If you wish to try the Intel driver and

	dpkg -l | grep intel

does not return

	xserver-xorg-video-intel

then do

	apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel

and

	cp /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf /etc/X11

followed by login manager restart or reboot. Then report results and provide
Xorg.0.log on https://paste.debian.net again if not a satisfactory improvement.
Also if not improved, do

	journalctl | grep failed

and post that result here if fairly short, or on https://paste.debian.net/ if
extensive.

Also, try a different WM/DE, as this problem could be limited to Gnome. FWIW, I
use TDE on Stretch, installed via these instructions:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall
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