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| Started by | RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> |
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| First post | 2017-05-07 00:00 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-05-08 17:40 +0200 |
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How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 00:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-07 00:40 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 01:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 00:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 01:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 02:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 04:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 05:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-08 14:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 00:40 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 23:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 01:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 15:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-05-08 17:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 21:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-08 13:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-09 18:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-10 15:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-13 14:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-13 14:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-13 18:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-13 18:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-14 03:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-05-14 09:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 12:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 13:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 16:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 21:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 13:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Thanatos Incarnate <thanatosincarnate@openmailbox.org> - 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-17 12:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 20:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-17 00:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 08:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-17 14:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? G <gpdsb@mailbox.org> - 2017-05-17 17:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-17 17:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-05-17 18:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 18:50 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 18:40 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-17 00:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-05-14 14:10 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-11 00:20 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:00 +0200
Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-08 17:40 +0200
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 08:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI0jL-7Ri-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181043 |
Fungi4All wrote: > The best thing about manjaro is that it is not ubuntu (which is like > Debian in drag without a personality) and I don't dare even look at > someone's machine that mentions mint. Ubuntu to me is like a Porsche 914, > a VW beatle mascaraded into a sports car. I'll just go with Fiat for now > and keep debian as a challenging sport for the weekend. Perhaps you've missed the KDE3 series - which is now TDE. All you are talking about is ubuntu and Gnome - which IMO are not meant to be friendly when it comes to changing things. You can of course learn all the details how you proceed with them, but is it really necessary? I gave up years ago on them. I think LXDE is also based on Gnome, but not sure. I also think we are going off topic now. regards
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 14:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI6fw-32g-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181043 |
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:26:51PM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
> But in recent times have brought me various frustrations with deb...
> particularly with resolv.conf acting as it has a mind of its own and
> vanishing my set of dns collections and replacing them with its believed to
> be best for me.
If you run as a DHCP client, the dhclient program requests DNS nameservers
and hostname and domain from the DHCP server by default, periodically.
It will overwrite /etc/resolv.conf if configured to do so. It is
configured to do so by default. So, you will change this.
Step 1: Remove the resolvconf package, if it is installed.
Step 2: Edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and either make it stop requesting
nameserver info altogether by removing these lines:
titan:/etc/dhcp$ diff -u dhclient.conf.20170510 dhclient.conf
--- dhclient.conf.20170510 2017-05-10 18:49:25.838259274 -0400
+++ dhclient.conf 2017-05-10 18:49:58.426123217 -0400
@@ -20,8 +20,6 @@
#supersede domain-name "fugue.com home.vix.com";
#prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
- domain-name, domain-name-servers, domain-search, host-name,
- dhcp6.name-servers, dhcp6.domain-search,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu,
rfc3442-classless-static-routes, ntp-servers;
#require subnet-mask, domain-name-servers;
Or, if you prefer, you can uncomment and edit the lines that say
"supersede domain-name" and "prepend domain-name-servers". If you do
it that way, dhclient will still request the information, and it will
still overwrite /etc/resolv.conf periodically, but it will do so with
your edits in mind. And you'll have to remember that directly editing
/etc/resolv.conf will not work.
I'll assume you chose to delete the lines indicated in the diff, because
this is much simpler.
Step 3: Bring your network interface down and back up, to restart the
dhclient program. Otherwise, the already-running dhclient will
continue requesting nameserver info from your DHCP server, undoing
your edits continually. You can either reboot, or run "ifdown eth0"
and "ifup eth0", assuming your network interface is eth0.
Step 4: Edit /etc/resolv.conf as you see fit.
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| From | RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI71U-3xU-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181039 |
On 05/16/2017 02:18 PM, deloptes wrote: > Thanatos Incarnate wrote: > >> My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then >> Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts >> (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove >> profile, KDE having GUI elements that follow your set theme, but then >> also others that don't, KDE PIM being crashy as ever,...). Of course, >> the less complicated your system, the fewer bugs you'll have. So, while >> Openbox, a panel and a terminal won't drive your crazy even on Sid, KDE >> or Gnome might. > > To all that like the old stable style of DE I recommend TDE > http://trinitydesktop.org That looked interesting! I used to use KDE all the time and then decided to use XFCE after finding that KDE kept my laptop fan running and the laptop running hot all the time. I don't have that happening in XFCE (but did add some power control stuff which may have helped as well). I also got quite used to XFCE and the fact that everything looks the same. No more GTK looking one way and KDE stuff looking another way.
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| From | G <gpdsb@mailbox.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 17:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI8AG-4o1-27@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181055 |
Hello. I'm new here so i would like to confirm/ask some questions. First of all as far as i can understand Debian stretch is frozen. And is becoming more and more stable since no more packages are added and from now on the development team just fix bugs. I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing becomes stable? I search around and found this https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting It has a section "How to use Debian (next-stable) Testing". So if i understand it right i should: 1.Install Debian stable 2.Upgrade to testing by editing source.list according to the instructions i found on that link. 3.After Debian stretch becomes stable i should edit again source.list file by uncommenting the security updates and other stable specific lines that i commented on step 2. I'm not missing something right? Thanks in advance for your help.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 17:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI8Km-4GH-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181062 |
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 05:57:29PM +0300, G wrote: > I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then > follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian > testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing > becomes stable? No. You just keep doing "apt update" and "apt upgrade" to continue receiving stretch updates and fixes. The only thing you might have to change is adding a security.debian.org line (or two) once stretch becomes stable and starts getting security.d.o support.
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| From | Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 18:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI9Gp-5g6-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181062 |
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On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 05:57:29PM +0300, G wrote: >Hello. >I'm new here so i would like to confirm/ask some questions. > >First of all as far as i can understand Debian stretch is frozen. And is >becoming more and more stable since no more packages are added and from >now on the development team just fix bugs. > >I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then >follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian >testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing >becomes stable? In essence, "releasing" Debian merely involves changing the destination of some links on the repository servers (there's probably more to it, but this is the user-visible effect). At the moment "stable" points to "jessie", "testing" points to "stretch" and "unstable" points to "sid". On the day of release "stable" will be made to point to "stretch", "testing" will be made to point to "buster" and "unstable" will remain pointing to "sid" (sid is always unstable). So the question remains as to how you refer to things in your /etc/apt/sources.list. If you have the word "testing" in your sources.list, then at the momnet, you'll getting the pre-release "stretch" packages. After release, you'll move forward to "buster" and you'll see the rapid influx of packages from unstable as the development focus moves. If you have the word "stretch" in your sources.list, instead, then you will move from "pre-released stretch" to "released stretch" which should effectively mean no visible change at your end at all. > >I search around and found this https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting >It has a section "How to use Debian (next-stable) Testing". > >So if i understand it right i should: > >1.Install Debian stable >2.Upgrade to testing by editing source.list according to the >instructions i found on that link. Actually, if you want to install testing/stretch, you'd be better off using the testing version of the debian installer: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ This will A) get you straight into testing and B) include any installer-related changes that you may need (for example, I recently installed to an NVMe drive, which the stable installer couldn't see). > >3.After Debian stretch becomes stable i should edit again source.list >file by uncommenting the security updates and other stable specific >lines that i commented on step 2. > >I'm not missing something right? > >Thanks in advance for your help. > -- For more information, please reread.
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 18:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tIaj8-5vV-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181062 |
On Wednesday 17 May 2017 15:57:29 G wrote: > I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then > follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian > testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing > becomes stable? No. > > I search around and found this https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting > It has a section "How to use Debian (next-stable) Testing". > > So if i understand it right i should: > > 1.Install Debian stable See Darac Marjal's comment. > 2.Upgrade to testing by editing source.list according to the > instructions i found on that link. If you want to stay with stretch, use the option in the instructions to use the name stretch in your sources list. > 3.After Debian stretch becomes stable i should edit again source.list > file by uncommenting the security updates and other stable specific > lines that i commented on step 2. Yes. And change all references to jessie to stretch. Lisi
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| From | RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI71T-3xU-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181029 |
On 05/16/2017 07:22 AM, Thanatos Incarnate wrote: > Hello there, > > > My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then > Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts > (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove > profile, KDE having GUI elements that follow your set theme, but then > also others that don't, KDE PIM being crashy as ever,...). Of course, > the less complicated your system, the fewer bugs you'll have. So, while > Openbox, a panel and a terminal won't drive your crazy even on Sid, KDE > or Gnome might. Well, I keep Firefox as a backup, use Thunderbird a lot, but never used Icedove. I use XFCE and not KDE (but was thinking of returning to KDE, not sure right now), and don't use PIMs at all. I don't know what Openbox is either. :) I have a pretty functional development system setup and it works well for me. But the packages are probably very outdated. I would love to have newer packages.
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| From | Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tHIPT-4Yo-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181027 |
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On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:17:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: >>Richard Owlett wrote: >> > >> >>mkdir test && cd test && zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio -Hnewc -i >> > >I may not be "prophet or son of a prophet", but I see a "lab >practical" on parsing in my future. You may find https://explainshell.com useful. There you can paste in command lines and the commands will be explained. For this instance: https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=mkdir+test+%26%26+cd+test+%26%26+zcat+%2Fboot%2Finitrd.img-`uname+-r`+|+cpio+-Hnewc+-i -- For more information, please reread.
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tHLb3-6iL-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181030 |
On 05/16/2017 06:26 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:17:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: >>> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> mkdir test && cd test && zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio >>> -Hnewc -i >>> >> >> I may not be "prophet or son of a prophet", but I see a "lab >> practical" on parsing in my future. > > You may find https://explainshell.com useful. Bookmarked! It also has some interesting links. > There you can paste in > command lines and the commands will be explained. For this instance: > https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=mkdir+test+%26%26+cd+test+%26%26+zcat+%2Fboot%2Finitrd.img-`uname+-r`+|+cpio+-Hnewc+-i > The link didn't survive the email process, but intended URL was clear. Due to my learning style, I still see a "lab practical" on parsing in my future. That page will be a good check on my understanding. Thank you.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-05-16 18:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tHNFT-7VJ-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181033 |
On Tue 16 May 2017 at 08:58:27 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/16/2017 06:26 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > >On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:17:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: > >>>Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>>mkdir test && cd test && zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio > >>>-Hnewc -i > >>> > >> > >>I may not be "prophet or son of a prophet", but I see a "lab > >>practical" on parsing in my future. > > > >You may find https://explainshell.com useful. > > Bookmarked! It also has some interesting links. > > >There you can paste in > >command lines and the commands will be explained. For this instance: > >https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=mkdir+test+%26%26+cd+test+%26%26+zcat+%2Fboot%2Finitrd.img-`uname+-r`+|+cpio+-Hnewc+-i > > > > The link didn't survive the email process, but intended URL was clear. That's odd. I can still lift it straight from your reply's quote, and even 3rd-hand from this composition buffer, without any problem. > Due to my learning style, I still see a "lab practical" on parsing > in my future. That page will be a good check on my understanding. > Thank you. Cheers, David.
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-17 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tHSPg-31N-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #181027 |
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-05-16 06:17 (UTC-0500): > On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: >> I wouldn't use dedicated boot partition in your case. For testing >> you can leave all on one partition. If you use dedicated boot >> partition and want to share it among different installs - watch out >> to not format it ... and you must keep all your kernels+initrd there. > I'm unclear as to "dedicated boot partition" above. > My typical install procedure results in a directory structure as below: > richard@stretch-2nd:/$ dir > bin etc initrd.img.old media proc sbin tmp vmlinuz > boot home lib mnt root srv usr vmlinuz.old > dev initrd.img lost+found opt run sys var > Are you referring to the "boot" in that list? > I've may have been a computer *user* for a half-century. > But I have little formal background ;} "Dedicated boot partition" normally refers to the boot directory you see in your dir output having a filesystem mounted to it in /etc/fstab. It doesn't have to be so. I have dedicated boot partitions, meaning FOSS native filesystem primary partition on each BIOS disk 0, with Grub installed on it that I manage entirely myself, and which I do *not* mount to /boot/, in order to maintain exclusive control of it on PCs with as many as 40 installed operating systems. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 14:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tH0vw-1p5-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #180996 |
On Sun, 14 May 2017 04:57:07 -0500 Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote: > On 05/14/2017 02:40 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 13 May 2017 20:54:04 -0400 > > RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> wrote: > > > >> On 05/13/2017 12:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> I have a partition whose label is "common". > >> > >> I could almost smack myself in the head. I had done that when I > >> used to dual-boot Windows / Linux (now you can see why I'm not a > >> fan of dual-boot, I guess! LOL!). I also used to dual boot SolydX > >> and SolydK distributions. > >> > >> In my VMs, I do use the guest additions and have a shared directory > >> (necessity for what I need to do as well). > >> > >> But that was one way I had shared data. > >> > >> However, I still balk at dual-booting (like you balk at VMs :) ) > >> > > > > Another option I've used for some years: a pocket-sized USB hard > > drive with an i386 all-modules installation, which boots on > > practically anything that isn't an ARM. > > > > Can you clarify what you mean by the phrase "i386 all-modules > installation"? TIA > > Question during installation: 'Do you want all driver modules or just the ones that apply to this hardware' or something similar. On every other occasion I go for 'just the ones needed'. -- Joe
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tH2dX-2fX-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #180999 |
Thank you. On 05/14/2017 07:09 AM, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2017 04:57:07 -0500 > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote: > >> On 05/14/2017 02:40 AM, Joe wrote: >>> On Sat, 13 May 2017 20:54:04 -0400 >>> RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/13/2017 12:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: >>>>> I have a partition whose label is "common". >>>> >>>> I could almost smack myself in the head. I had done that when I >>>> used to dual-boot Windows / Linux (now you can see why I'm not a >>>> fan of dual-boot, I guess! LOL!). I also used to dual boot SolydX >>>> and SolydK distributions. >>>> >>>> In my VMs, I do use the guest additions and have a shared directory >>>> (necessity for what I need to do as well). >>>> >>>> But that was one way I had shared data. >>>> >>>> However, I still balk at dual-booting (like you balk at VMs :) ) >>>> >>> >>> Another option I've used for some years: a pocket-sized USB hard >>> drive with an i386 all-modules installation, which boots on >>> practically anything that isn't an ARM. >>> >> >> Can you clarify what you mean by the phrase "i386 all-modules >> installation"? TIA >> >> > > Question during installation: 'Do you want all driver modules or just > the ones that apply to this hardware' or something similar. On every > other occasion I go for 'just the ones needed'. >
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| From | Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 00:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tFI7D-6lQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #180890 |
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From: ravenlx@sitesplace.net >My system is used for work (I work from home exclusively) and stuff I do >sometimes can be mission-critical in that if I'm notified, I might have >to go and do some work right away on something important. Customers >would be relying on my ability to fix things. So, I really can't afford >something to go down on my machine. This is why I have a spare laptop >just in case my "main" laptop has a problem. They are both set up >identical and data files are backed up very frequently so all I need to >do is get the backups onto the spare laptop and be good to go within >minutes. > >Stability, in my case, is a must. However, I do like to have newer >features as well. I'd say based on what you describe you should keep your old system and just create a small partition to practice debian on your spare time. By the way, did you guys hear about the mother of all security bugs that was uncovered last weekend that affects all ms-win 7,8,10 by some google project-group who have yet to uncover a ton of security bugs on android? MS already patched it for all the valid licensed customers, which leaves a few million out on their crack-jobs.
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| From | kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 08:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tGyfT-7Py-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #180890 |
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:03 PM, RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> wrote: > My system is used for work (I work from home exclusively) and stuff I do > sometimes can be mission-critical in that if I'm notified, I might have to > go and do some work right away on something important. Customers would be > relying on my ability to fix things. So, I really can't afford something to > go down on my machine. This is why I have a spare laptop just in case my > "main" laptop has a problem. They are both set up identical and data files > are backed up very frequently so all I need to do is get the backups onto > the spare laptop and be good to go within minutes. > > Stability, in my case, is a must. However, I do like to have newer features > as well. Use stable. When stability is important, that is the correct distribution to use. You might also like http://kamarajukusumanchi.github.io/choosing_debian_distribution/choosing_debian_distribution.html which contains a bunch of FAQs that come up in choosing the right distribution. It has not been updated in a while (so the names of stable, testing are different) but the content should still be relevant. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog
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| From | Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-08 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tESVs-5Jx-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #180791 |
On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 05:55:44PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: > I am thinking about trying out Stretch (Debian 9) in either a spare laptop > or a virtual machine. If I like it I might just point my sources list to > that repo on both laptops if it's stable enough. At this point - except for an important production service - I'd install stretch over jessie with no hesitation. *Especially* on a throw-away VM or spare laptop (in fact I have done so on several of both, many times, in the last few weeks). -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
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