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terminate unwanted bug mail how?

Started byFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
First post2016-10-31 19:40 +0100
Last post2016-10-31 23:00 +0100
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  terminate unwanted bug mail how? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-31 19:40 +0100
    Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2016-10-31 19:50 +0100
      Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-31 20:10 +0100
        Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 20:20 +0100
          Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-31 23:00 +0100
            Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 23:30 +0100
              Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-01 02:10 +0100
                Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 10:50 +0100
                  Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-01 17:00 +0100
                    Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 17:50 +0100
    Re: terminate unwanted bug mail how? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-31 23:00 +0100

#174087 — terminate unwanted bug mail how?

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-31 19:40 +0100
Subjectterminate unwanted bug mail how?
Message-ID<sypEZ-65O-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
I added subscriptions to these debian mailing lists in recent weeks:
debian-boot-request@lists.debian.org
debian-testing-request@lists.debian.org
debian-multimedia-request@lists.debian.org

Now I'm getting lots of bug mail with large attachments, so I want to 
unsubscribe from only whichever list is causing this bug mail. NAICT the 
unwanted mails only report from owner@bugs.debian.org. If there's anything in 
the complete message headers to have triggered their being sent to me, I'm 
not seeing it. Can anyone tell what I should be looking for or where to go to 
get these stopped please?
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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#174088

FromSven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
Date2016-10-31 19:50 +0100
Message-ID<sypOG-694-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174087
On 2016-10-31 14:30 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> I added subscriptions to these debian mailing lists in recent weeks:
> debian-boot-request@lists.debian.org
> debian-testing-request@lists.debian.org
> debian-multimedia-request@lists.debian.org
>
> Now I'm getting lots of bug mail with large attachments, so I want to
> unsubscribe from only whichever list is causing this bug mail. NAICT
> the unwanted mails only report from owner@bugs.debian.org. If there's
> anything in the complete message headers to have triggered their being
> sent to me, I'm not seeing it.

They are sent to the lists because those are the "Maintainers" of
packages and thus receive mail from the Debian BTS.

> Can anyone tell what I should be
> looking for or where to go to get these stopped please?

The easiest way is to unsubscribe at least from debian-boot since this
list receives a lot of bug mails as you can see for yourself[1].

Cheers,
       Sven


1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/10/

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#174092

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-31 20:10 +0100
Message-ID<syq81-6vp-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174088
Sven Joachim composed on 2016-10-31 19:41 (UTC+0100):

> On 2016-10-31 14:30 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

>> I added subscriptions to these debian mailing lists in recent weeks:
>> debian-boot-request@lists.debian.org
>> debian-testing-request@lists.debian.org
>> debian-multimedia-request@lists.debian.org

>> Now I'm getting lots of bug mail with large attachments, so I want to
>> unsubscribe from only whichever list is causing this bug mail. NAICT
>> the unwanted mails only report from owner@bugs.debian.org. If there's
>> anything in the complete message headers to have triggered their being
>> sent to me, I'm not seeing it.

> They are sent to the lists because those are the "Maintainers" of
> packages and thus receive mail from the Debian BTS.

>> Can anyone tell what I should be
>> looking for or where to go to get these stopped please?

> The easiest way is to unsubscribe at least from debian-boot since this
> list receives a lot of bug mails as you can see for yourself[1].

Lots of mails doesn't bother me. It's the sizes that do, 40k, 60k, 90k seem 
to be routine. It seems they are noticeably slowing down my email program's 
handling of its mbox files.

> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/10/
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#174093

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-10-31 20:20 +0100
Message-ID<syqhH-6yR-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174092
On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 15:02:43 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> Sven Joachim composed on 2016-10-31 19:41 (UTC+0100):
> 
> >On 2016-10-31 14:30 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >>I added subscriptions to these debian mailing lists in recent weeks:
> >>debian-boot-request@lists.debian.org
> >>debian-testing-request@lists.debian.org
> >>debian-multimedia-request@lists.debian.org
> 
> >>Now I'm getting lots of bug mail with large attachments, so I want to
> >>unsubscribe from only whichever list is causing this bug mail. NAICT
> >>the unwanted mails only report from owner@bugs.debian.org. If there's
> >>anything in the complete message headers to have triggered their being
> >>sent to me, I'm not seeing it.
> 
> >They are sent to the lists because those are the "Maintainers" of
> >packages and thus receive mail from the Debian BTS.
> 
> >>Can anyone tell what I should be
> >>looking for or where to go to get these stopped please?
> 
> >The easiest way is to unsubscribe at least from debian-boot since this
> >list receives a lot of bug mails as you can see for yourself[1].
> 
> Lots of mails doesn't bother me. It's the sizes that do, 40k, 60k, 90k seem
> to be routine. It seems they are noticeably slowing down my email program's
> handling of its mbox files.

90k is nothing. 1M wouldn't be unusual in debian-systemd.

Sven Joachim has given the reason why you you get the mails. If you do
not want them you will have to look to your own resources. With POP3 you
could find mailfilter useful.

-- 
Brian.

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#174100

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-31 23:00 +0100
Message-ID<sysMy-7ZA-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174093
Brian composed on 2016-10-31 19:11 (UTC):

> With POP3 you could find mailfilter useful.

Issue here is about wasted bandwidth, something local filtering cannot handle 
AFAICT. Bugs usually have links to attachments that can be clicked on when 
seeing them by list mail recipient is wished. Why they need to go out to all 
subscribers and populate mailing list archives I don't grok. I'd think at 
least by option subscribers could choose not having bug attachments attached 
to each list mail.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#174104

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-10-31 23:30 +0100
Message-ID<sytfA-8t8-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174100
On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 17:58:18 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> Brian composed on 2016-10-31 19:11 (UTC):
> 
> >With POP3 you could find mailfilter useful.
> 
> Issue here is about wasted bandwidth, something local filtering cannot
> handle AFAICT. Bugs usually have links to attachments that can be clicked on

You didn't say how you got mail. I thought the "POP3" would prompt you
to say. But we are still in the dark. And it does not appear you have
investigated what mailfilter can do if your bandwidth is contrained

> when seeing them by list mail recipient is wished. Why they need to go out
> to all subscribers and populate mailing list archives I don't grok. I'd
> think at least by option subscribers could choose not having bug attachments
> attached to each list mail.

Debian conducts its business through mailing lists and bug reports can
be a crucial part of it. If you are particularly interested in a list
you take the rough with the smooth. Use the "d" key. Otherwise, you
unsubscribe.

-- 
Brian.

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#174108

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-11-01 02:10 +0100
Message-ID<syvKp-1Hw-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174104
Brian composed on 2016-10-31 22:27 (UTC):

> On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 17:58:18 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

>> Brian composed on 2016-10-31 19:11 (UTC):

>>> With POP3 you could find mailfilter useful.

>> Issue here is about wasted bandwidth, something local filtering cannot
>> handle AFAICT. Bugs usually have links to attachments that can be clicked on

> You didn't say how you got mail. I thought the "POP3" would prompt you
> to say.

Sorry for expecting the reader to infer from my response the POP3 connection 
used here.

> But we are still in the dark. And it does not appear you have
> investigated what mailfilter can do if your bandwidth is contrained

Another mistake. I supposed you meant mail filter rather than an app named 
[M]ailfilter. Now that I'm apprised of mailfilter I will need to investigate, 
once I've encountered of an available round tuit. It sounds like something 
overdue for many moons.

>> when seeing them by list mail recipient is wished. Why they need to go out
>> to all subscribers and populate mailing list archives I don't grok. I'd
>> think at least by option subscribers could choose not having bug attachments
>> attached to each list mail.

> Debian conducts its business through mailing lists and bug reports can
> be a crucial part of it.

Understood.

> If you are particularly interested in a list
> you take the rough with the smooth.

Old news. I've been a regular to lots of mailing lists for upwards of 18 
years, using Netscape 2 and its lineage the entire time, other than an 
occasional brief daliance troubleshooting via web mail.

> ...unsubscribe.

Done.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#174112

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-11-01 10:50 +0100
Message-ID<syDRD-6U0-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174108
On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 21:08:08 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

> Brian composed on 2016-10-31 22:27 (UTC):
> 
> >But we are still in the dark. And it does not appear you have
> >investigated what mailfilter can do if your bandwidth is contrained
> 
> Another mistake. I supposed you meant mail filter rather than an app named
> [M]ailfilter. Now that I'm apprised of mailfilter I will need to
> investigate, once I've encountered of an available round tuit. It sounds
> like something overdue for many moons.

mailfilter deletes mail on the server. One criterion is size, which can
be set to a threshhold.

-- 
Brian.

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#174124

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-11-01 17:00 +0100
Message-ID<syJDH-29m-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174112
On Tuesday 01 November 2016 05:45:39 Brian wrote:

> On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 21:08:08 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Brian composed on 2016-10-31 22:27 (UTC):
> > >But we are still in the dark. And it does not appear you have
> > >investigated what mailfilter can do if your bandwidth is contrained
> >
> > Another mistake. I supposed you meant mail filter rather than an app
> > named [M]ailfilter. Now that I'm apprised of mailfilter I will need
> > to investigate, once I've encountered of an available round tuit. It
> > sounds like something overdue for many moons.
>
> mailfilter deletes mail on the server. One criterion is size, which
> can be set to a threshhold.

No, it doesn't IF your server is shentel.net.  When I called to complain, 
they explained that many people use pop3, but expected the message to 
still be there when accessed by imap. So I am forced to login to their 
webmail server, and delete old mail that way. Which I am now doing 
nominally daily.

I am all automated pop3 here. But I will say their spam trapping is much 
better than the average. So much so that I have discontinued using 
mailfilter.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#174125

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-11-01 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<syKq5-2Hy-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174124
On Tue 01 Nov 2016 at 11:52:50 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Tuesday 01 November 2016 05:45:39 Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 21:08:08 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Brian composed on 2016-10-31 22:27 (UTC):
> > > >But we are still in the dark. And it does not appear you have
> > > >investigated what mailfilter can do if your bandwidth is contrained
> > >
> > > Another mistake. I supposed you meant mail filter rather than an app
> > > named [M]ailfilter. Now that I'm apprised of mailfilter I will need
> > > to investigate, once I've encountered of an available round tuit. It
> > > sounds like something overdue for many moons.
> >
> > mailfilter deletes mail on the server. One criterion is size, which
> > can be set to a threshhold.
> 
> No, it doesn't IF your server is shentel.net.  When I called to complain, 
> they explained that many people use pop3, but expected the message to 
> still be there when accessed by imap. So I am forced to login to their 
> webmail server, and delete old mail that way. Which I am now doing 
> nominally daily.

That is partly why I invited the OP to say a little something about how
he got mail.

> I am all automated pop3 here. But I will say their spam trapping is much 
> better than the average. So much so that I have discontinued using 
> mailfilter.

IPS's filtering can go awry. I prefer to make my own mistakes. The
person responsible is close at hand and can be re-educated.

-- 
Brian.

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#174101

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-31 23:00 +0100
Message-ID<sysMy-7ZA-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174087
On 10/31/2016 1:30 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> I added subscriptions to these debian mailing lists in recent weeks:
> debian-boot-request@lists.debian.org
> debian-testing-request@lists.debian.org
> debian-multimedia-request@lists.debian.org
>
> Now I'm getting lots of bug mail with large attachments, so I
> want to unsubscribe from only whichever list is causing this bug
> mail. NAICT the unwanted mails only report from
> owner@bugs.debian.org. If there's anything in the complete
> message headers to have triggered their being sent to me, I'm not
> seeing it. Can anyone tell what I should be looking for or where
> to go to get these stopped please?

I've recently dealt with a similar problem.
I subscribe to multiple "bug" related lists.
I began receiving what I considered irrelevant/uninteresting but 
otherwise *legitimate* emails that came from a specific address.
I just set up a filter to place in a frequently emptied folder.
YMMV

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