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Re: Compositing Problem Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 08:40 +0200
Re: Compositing Problem Thom Castermans <thom.castermans@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:10 +0200
Re: Compositing Problem Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 19:40 +0200
Re: Compositing Problem Brandon Doyle <bjd2385@aperiodicity.com> - 2016-10-23 06:50 +0200
Re: Compositing Problem Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:40 +0100
linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 23:30 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 05:40 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-15 07:00 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 19:30 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-15 19:50 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 22:50 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-01-16 01:50 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau David Baron <dbaron770@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 08:50 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 06:20 +0100
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 23:40 +0100
| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-20 08:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Compositing Problem |
| Message-ID | <sufbb-3SB-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: > Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. > > Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not > show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. > > Effects all compositing options. > > Where to file bug? > Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Thom Castermans <thom.castermans@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-20 09:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sufEd-4iL-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #173620 |
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This may be something you already tried, but a friend of mine had this issue so I am suggesting it anyway. Are you sure you need the 304.x version of the drivers? If you have a newer graphics card, then using this older driver may cause problems. You can check this by running nvidia-debugdump --list to see your device name and then searching for it in this list <http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html>, or, probably easier, selecting it on this page <http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us>. You can then search for the Debian package matching the suggested version. Good luck, video drivers tend to be finicky... Thom 2016-10-20 8:33 GMT+02:00 Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>: > On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: > >> Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. >> >> Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not >> show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. >> >> Effects all compositing options. >> >> Where to file bug? >> Quick fix? >> > > Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages > back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages > that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not > upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in > xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no > problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. > hehe > > There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. > I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, > plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say > they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure > they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a > simple code error. > > With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not > correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. > > With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines > and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. > > David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may > not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. > -- > Jimmy Johnson > > Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15 > Registered Linux User #380263 > >
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-20 19:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <suptT-2bV-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #173621 |
On 10/19/2016 11:53 PM, Thom Castermans wrote: > This may be something you already tried, but a friend of mine had this > issue so > I am suggesting it anyway. > > Are you sure you need the 304.x version of the drivers? If you have a newer > graphics card, then using this older driver may cause problems. You can > check > this by running nvidia-debugdump --list to see your device name and then > searching for it in this list <http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html>, > or, probably easier, selecting it on this page > <http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us>. > > You can then search for the Debian package matching the suggested version. > > Good luck, video drivers tend to be finicky... > > Thom Complying to check for proper driver. jimmy@jimmy-1:~$ nvidia-detect Detected NVIDIA GPUs: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [10de:03d6] (rev a2) Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) Your card is only supported up to the 304 legacy drivers series. It is recommended to install the nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver package. jimmy@jimmy-1:~$ Thanks. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - XFCE4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda24 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Brandon Doyle <bjd2385@aperiodicity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-23 06:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sviTn-4HV-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #173620 |
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Unsubscribe Sent from Android ________________________________ From: Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:33:41 AM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org; Debian.org Subject: Re: Compositing Problem On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: > Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. > > Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not > show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. > > Effects all compositing options. > > Where to file bug? > Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-07 13:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sWYrU-oH-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #173620 |
On 10/19/2016 11:33 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: >> Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. >> >> Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not >> show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. >> >> Effects all compositing options. >> >> Where to file bug? >> Quick fix? > > Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages > back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 > packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, > some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used > synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a > side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, > at this time anyways. hehe > > There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. > I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the > upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame > nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian > plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only > 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. > > With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not > correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no > plasma. > > With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly > lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. > > David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I > may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.2 - nvidia-legacy-304xx - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-14 23:30 +0100 |
| Subject | linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <sZEZI-35X-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #173620 |
<This was my report for the 4.8.0-2 kernel> And it still works. I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start. On first boot plasma loaded the vga driver giving me the wrong screen size and did not load the installed nvidia driver at all. Booting linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 and reinstalling nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver crashed plasma and so did nouveau. I'm back to using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver and linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 with XRender and compositing enabled. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - nvidia-legacy-304xx - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-15 05:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <sZKLL-6v3-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176715 |
On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> <This was my report for the 4.8.0-2 kernel> And it still works.
> I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers,
> "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful
> lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender
> and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too,
> now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian!
>
> linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave
> nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's
> nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start.
>
> On first boot plasma loaded the vga driver giving me the wrong screen
> size and did not load the installed nvidia driver at all. Booting
> linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 and reinstalling nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
> crashed plasma and so did nouveau. I'm back to using
> nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver and linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 with XRender
> and compositing enabled.
Here are some bits from log files:
Kernel log:
[ 0.888338] rtc_cmos 00:02: alarms up to one year, y3k, 242 bytes
nvram, hpet irqs
System log:
[ 0.888542] rtc_cmos 00:02: alarms up to one year, y3k, 242 bytes
nvram, hpet irqs
First boot with new kernel:
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088148] NVRM: Your system is not
currently configured to drive a VGA console
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088157] NVRM: on the primary VGA
device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088160] NVRM: requires the use of
a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088162] NVRM: drivers including,
but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088164] NVRM: corruption and
stability problems, and is not supported.
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Running display setup script
"/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup"
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Display server started.
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Socket server starting...
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Socket server started.
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Greeter starting...
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Adding cookie to
"/var/run/sddm/{f73eabcb-08df-499d-83bc-90cf9a367ba1}"
NVRM: DRM init failed
Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module?
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17
Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-15 07:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <sZM1b-7eu-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176716 |
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-14 20:37 (UTC-0800): > Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module? Which gfxchip do you have? Did you miss that the _preferred_ FOSS video driver in Sid, modesetting, is integrated into the xerver and you haven't tried it? It might be your solution. If you purge nouveau and nvidia drivers modesetting should be used automatically unless your gfxchip is outside support scope. I don't know whether there actually has been an announcement for NVidia, but NAICT it did happen for Intel: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Xorg-Intel-DDX-Switch http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-modesetting-2017&num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-15 19:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <sZXIZ-5Of-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176717 |
On 01/14/2017 09:51 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-14 20:37 (UTC-0800): > >> Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module? > > Which gfxchip do you have? This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. > Did you miss that the _preferred_ FOSS video driver in Sid, modesetting, > is integrated into the xerver and you haven't tried it? It might be your > solution. If you purge nouveau and nvidia drivers modesetting should be > used automatically unless your gfxchip is outside support scope. I don't > know whether there actually has been an announcement for NVidia, but > NAICT it did happen for Intel: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Xorg-Intel-DDX-Switch > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-modesetting-2017&num=1 > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550 graphics and an Intel Laptop with Intel 965 graphics and this my main desktop is Nvidia with Nvidia GeForce7025 graphics. They all have some kind of problem with Sid/testing and Stretch Plasma. They all have many systems installed and are ready to test suggestions. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-15 19:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <sZY2m-5UE-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176726 |
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 10:24 (UTC-0800): > This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the > 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. > I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550 graphics and an > Intel Laptop with Intel 965 graphics and this my main desktop is Nvidia > with Nvidia GeForce7025 graphics. They all have some kind of problem > with Sid/testing and Stretch Plasma. They all have many systems > installed and are ready to test suggestions. 965 is too old for Xorg's modesetting driver support. About the 9550 I don't know because I don't have its rv number or know the rv number breakpoint, but suspect it might be supported, as the next rv group is supported. NAICT your 7025 should be new enough to use it. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-15 22:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <t00Qx-7HI-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176727 |
On 01/15/2017 10:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 10:24 (UTC-0800): > >> This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the >> 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. > >> I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550 graphics and an >> Intel Laptop with Intel 965 graphics and this my main desktop is Nvidia >> with Nvidia GeForce7025 graphics. They all have some kind of problem >> with Sid/testing and Stretch Plasma. They all have many systems >> installed and are ready to test suggestions. > > 965 is too old for Xorg's modesetting driver support. About the 9550 I > don't know because I don't have its rv number or know the rv number > breakpoint, but suspect it might be supported, as the next rv group is > supported. NAICT your 7025 should be new enough to use it. The 965 is only using "ro", the 4.8 and 4.9 kernel are installed but not working. The 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell, if the newer kernel's are not working later on I will do something else, like import another kernel that will be updated. The ATI is basically working with the 4.8.0-2 kernel and with the 4.9 kernel if I assist it by pressing key's on the keyboard or it dies and it's just using "ro". The Nvidia has to use "ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0" and is working swell with the 4.8.0-2 kernel but dies with the 4.9 kernel. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-16 01:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <t03EJ-15A-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176730 |
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 13:43 (UTC-0800): > The 965 is only using "ro", the 4.8 and 4.9 kernel are installed but not > working. The 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell, if the newer kernel's are not > working later on I will do something else, like import another kernel > that will be updated. ro has no remaining effect long before starting Xorg or sddm are attempted. From the man page: ro [KNL] Mount root device read-only on boot > The ATI is basically working with the 4.8.0-2 kernel and with the 4.9 > kernel if I assist it by pressing key's on the keyboard or it dies and > it's just using "ro". Is Plymouth both required and installed on your systems? If installed and not required for your configuration, try disabling it, or removing it entirely. > The Nvidia has to use "ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0" and is working > swell with the 4.8.0-2 kernel but dies with the 4.9 kernel. It seems as though you are equating the FOSS Xorg driver named modesetting with kernel modesetting (KMS). They are not the same thing. The proprietary NVidia Xorg driver, unless something has changed lately that I'm unaware of, requires that KMS be disabled (exclusively via kernel cmdline???, such as nomodeset or *.modeset=0) in order for it to function. AFIAK, as I've never tried using it, AMD's proprietary drivers require the same. Disabling KMS via kernel cmdline disables these FOSS Xorg drivers: Intel AMD/ATI/Radeon Nouveau If you have a new enough (but not bleeding edge) "big 3" gfxchip, and have neither the NVidia nor AMD proprietary drivers or any of their remnants installed, nor any of the "big 3" FOSS Xorg video drivers installed, then the modesetting Xorg driver should be employed automatically, and probably sucessfully, at least for some definition of successful that does not include high performance gaming. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | David Baron <dbaron770@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-16 08:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <t0adb-5uS-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176734 |
On יום ראשון, 15 בינואר 2017 19:44:36 IST Felix Miata wrote: > Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 13:43 (UTC-0800): > > The 965 is only using "ro", the 4.8 and 4.9 kernel are installed but not > > working. The 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell, if the newer kernel's are not > > working later on I will do something else, like import another kernel > > that will be updated. > > ro has no remaining effect long before starting Xorg or sddm are attempted. > From the man page: > > ro [KNL] Mount root device read-only on boot > > > The ATI is basically working with the 4.8.0-2 kernel and with the 4.9 > > kernel if I assist it by pressing key's on the keyboard or it dies and > > it's just using "ro". > > Is Plymouth both required and installed on your systems? If installed and > not required for your configuration, try disabling it, or removing it > entirely. > > The Nvidia has to use "ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0" and is working > > swell with the 4.8.0-2 kernel but dies with the 4.9 kernel. > > It seems as though you are equating the FOSS Xorg driver named modesetting > with kernel modesetting (KMS). They are not the same thing. > > The proprietary NVidia Xorg driver, unless something has changed lately that > I'm unaware of, requires that KMS be disabled (exclusively via kernel > cmdline???, such as nomodeset or *.modeset=0) in order for it to function. > AFIAK, as I've never tried using it, AMD's proprietary drivers require the > same. > > Disabling KMS via kernel cmdline disables these FOSS Xorg drivers: > > Intel > AMD/ATI/Radeon > Nouveau > I used to use the nomodeset. I also tested for it and brute-force switched between Nouveau and Nvidia legacy based on it. I have not had nomodeset since that "trick" (copying one or other Xorg.conf) became deprecated and I did a new 64-bit install. With no appends on kernel command line, Xorg works with either driver until I try to use KDE, Kwin, compositing. Then Nouveau will hang up, Nvidia legacy 304 will have missing window decorations.
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-24 06:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <t31Gp-8u2-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176715 |
On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > <This was my report for the 4.8.0-2 kernel> And it still works. > I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, > "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful > lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender > and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, > now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! > > linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave > nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's > nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start. > > On first boot plasma loaded the vga driver giving me the wrong screen > size and did not load the installed nvidia driver at all. Booting > linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 and reinstalling nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver > crashed plasma and so did nouveau. I'm back to using > nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver and linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 with XRender > and compositing enabled. I'm happy to report linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver are currently working swell together. Thank you Debian! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-24 23:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| Message-ID | <t3hUR-1Ql-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #176962 |
On 01/23/2017 11:54 PM, David Baron wrote: > On יום שני, 23 בינואר 2017 21:14:58 IST Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> I'm happy to report linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + >> nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver are currently working swell together. > I just updated, rebooted. See no change. Window decorations still missing, > both in openGL and Xrender. Yes, Plasma defaults to OpenGL 2.0 and it's not good that it's not working, you have to use XRender, but compositing is working. Once you switch to XRender you need to logout/login to see the change. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
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