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From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

Started byRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
First post2016-10-17 16:50 +0200
Last post2016-10-22 21:40 +0200
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  From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" -  HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-17 16:50 +0200
    Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-10-17 17:00 +0200
      Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-17 17:30 +0200
        Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-17 21:10 +0200
    Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-17 17:30 +0200
      Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-17 17:40 +0200
        Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2016-10-17 20:10 +0200
          Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-17 21:40 +0200
            Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 12:50 +0100
              Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-02 17:00 +0100
              RE: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2016-11-03 17:40 +0100
                Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 18:20 +0100
        Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-10-22 21:00 +0200
          Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash  drive" - HOW? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 21:40 +0200

#173530 — From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-17 16:50 +0200
SubjectFrom "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sthoK-4JB-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
If some of this sounds familiar, I have asked related questions 
in the past.
[I do have copies of previous posts&replies for reference.
  I've re-read most but may have missed reading some due to how I 
sorted them.]
I think I can give a better description of what I wish to accomplish.
The laptop I used for previous experiment is now classed as 
unreliable, which may have been cause of some previous problems. 
I have a healthy desktop machine now.

Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a 
physical set of purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].

I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install medium.
I DO NOT wish to install to the flash drive (one person called 
that 'Debian to Go']
It shall be bootable
It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can boot 
from a USB device.
It shall have a repository equivalent to the contents on all 13 
DVD's.
It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.

I envision a file structure of
/dev/sdX
	/alpha		optional partition for GRUB or LILO
	/beta		bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
	/gamma		repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
	/delta		collection of preseed.cfg files

Comments/suggestions?
TIA

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#173531 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromHans <hans.ullrich@loop.de>
Date2016-10-17 17:00 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sthyp-4Nc-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173530
Am Montag, 17. Oktober 2016, 09:40:31 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett:
> If some of this sounds familiar, I have asked related questions
> in the past.
> [I do have copies of previous posts&replies for reference.
>   I've re-read most but may have missed reading some due to how I
> sorted them.]
> I think I can give a better description of what I wish to accomplish.
> The laptop I used for previous experiment is now classed as
> unreliable, which may have been cause of some previous problems.
> I have a healthy desktop machine now.
> 
> Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a
> physical set of purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].
> 
> I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install medium.
> I DO NOT wish to install to the flash drive (one person called
> that 'Debian to Go']
> It shall be bootable
> It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can boot
> from a USB device.
> It shall have a repository equivalent to the contents on all 13
> DVD's.
> It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.
> 
> I envision a file structure of
> /dev/sdX
> 	/alpha		optional partition for GRUB or LILO
> 	/beta		bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
> 	/gamma		repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
> 	/delta		collection of preseed.cfg files
> 
> Comments/suggestions?
> TIA
So it looks like you want to do many installations and often. Maybe you might 
want to look at Fully Automatical Installatio (FAI). You can create an ISO for 
every architecture, then put in on the USB-drive. I suggest "XBOOT" for this, 
it is a multiboot tool.

As you can preconfigure everything, you can point the installer iso's to the 
repo on your usb drive.

On the other hand, IMO, an image server might be more usefull. Take a look at 
"clonezilla" project, especially "cloinezilla se".

Just my ideas.....

Happy hacking1

Hans

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#173534 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-17 17:30 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sti1s-5cC-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173531
On 10/17/2016 9:51 AM, Hans wrote:
> Am Montag, 17. Oktober 2016, 09:40:31 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett:
>> If some of this sounds familiar, I have asked related questions
>> in the past.
>> [I do have copies of previous posts&replies for reference.
>>    I've re-read most but may have missed reading some due to how I
>> sorted them.]
>> I think I can give a better description of what I wish to accomplish.
>> The laptop I used for previous experiment is now classed as
>> unreliable, which may have been cause of some previous problems.
>> I have a healthy desktop machine now.
>>
>> Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a
>> physical set of purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].
>>
>> I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install medium.
>> I DO NOT wish to install to the flash drive (one person called
>> that 'Debian to Go']
>> It shall be bootable
>> It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can boot
>> from a USB device.
>> It shall have a repository equivalent to the contents on all 13
>> DVD's.
>> It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.
>>
>> I envision a file structure of
>> /dev/sdX
>> 	/alpha		optional partition for GRUB or LILO
>> 	/beta		bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
>> 	/gamma		repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
>> 	/delta		collection of preseed.cfg files
>>
>> Comments/suggestions?
>> TIA
> So it looks like you want to do many installations and often.

YES <GRIN>
I have two general use cases:
   1. experimenting with configuration on a test-bed machine. I 
routinely multi-boot
      with as many as 5 choices. I have been known to wipe the 
hard drive multiple
      times in one week in order to start from scratch.
   2. portable install media.

> Maybe you might want to look at Fully Automatical Installatio (FAI).

I'd come across that but the references were for a distro other 
than Debian. If there are Debian oriented tools/instructions, 
that could be viable. Will do some web searches.

> You can create an ISO for every architecture,

Not an issue as I only use the version labeled "i386".

> then put in on the USB-drive. I suggest "XBOOT" for this, it is a multiboot tool.

Will investigate.

>
> As you can preconfigure everything, you can point the installer iso's to the
> repo on your usb drive.

I'm not sure we're on the same path here.
My procedure is to:
   choose "Automated install" from menu
   press ESC to edit command line
   append  "preseed/file=/mnt/preseed.cfg"
   continue

I generally have at least 3 preseed.cfg files available:
   1. full install
   2. a very minimal GUI install with only tools I routinely use
   3. one for whatever I'm currently experimenting with

>
> On the other hand, IMO, an image server might be more usefull. Take a look at
> "clonezilla" project, especially "cloinezilla se".

Will investigate.
>
> Just my ideas.....
>
> Happy hacking1
>
> Hans
>

Thank you.

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#173550 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-17 21:10 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<stlsl-7Hb-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173534
On 10/17/2016 10:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/17/2016 9:51 AM, Hans wrote:
>> Am Montag, 17. Oktober 2016, 09:40:31 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett:
[SNIP}
>> Maybe you might want to look at Fully Automatical Installatio
>> (FAI).
>
> I'd come across that but the references were for a distro other
> than Debian. If there are Debian oriented tools/instructions,
> that could be viable. Will do some web searches.

Did a web search. Search string was
     "fully automated install" +debian -ubuntu
Eventually weeded it down to http://fai-project.org/ .
I'll assume that to be *THE* authoritative site.
After surveying multiple pages, it is apparent it presumes:
    networked machines
    multiple identical installs
    no per install customizations
My use case *FAILS* all assumptions ;/

>
>> You can create an ISO for every architecture,
>
> Not an issue as I only use the version labeled "i386".
>
>> then put in on the USB-drive. I suggest "XBOOT" for this, it is
>> a multiboot tool.
>
> Will investigate.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=XBOOT&searchon=names&suite=stable&section=all
lists 4 packages. *ALL* descriptions include the string "tool to 
test and create graphical boot logos". Don't see how that is 
relevant.

Using duckduckgo.com I searched for:
XBOOT +debian
All hits referenced YUMI and/or "LIVE" ISO -- neither are in my 
"universe of discourse".

>
>>
>> As you can preconfigure everything, you can point the installer
>> iso's to the
>> repo on your usb drive.
>
> I'm not sure we're on the same path here.
> My procedure is to:
>    choose "Automated install" from menu
>    press ESC to edit command line
>    append  "preseed/file=/mnt/preseed.cfg"
>    continue
>
> I generally have at least 3 preseed.cfg files available:
>    1. full install
>    2. a very minimal GUI install with only tools I routinely use
>    3. one for whatever I'm currently experimenting with
>
>>
>> On the other hand, IMO, an image server might be more usefull.
>> Take a look at
>> "clonezilla" project, especially "cloinezilla se".
>
> Will investigate.

I am *NOT 'cloning' systems.
[ E.G. I create 'fraternal twins' *NOT* 'identical twins']
http://clonezilla.org/ explicitly counters my use case.


>>
>> Just my ideas.....
>>
>> Happy hacking1
>>
>> Hans
>>
>
> Thank you.
>
>

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#173533 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-10-17 17:30 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sti1s-5cC-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173530
On Mon 17 Oct 2016 at 09:40:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> If some of this sounds familiar, I have asked related questions in the past.
> [I do have copies of previous posts&replies for reference.
>  I've re-read most but may have missed reading some due to how I sorted
> them.]
> I think I can give a better description of what I wish to accomplish.
> The laptop I used for previous experiment is now classed as unreliable,
> which may have been cause of some previous problems. I have a healthy
> desktop machine now.
> 
> Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a physical set of
> purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].
> 
> I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install medium.
> I DO NOT wish to install to the flash drive (one person called that 'Debian
> to Go']
> It shall be bootable
> It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can boot from a USB
> device.
> It shall have a repository equivalent to the contents on all 13 DVD's.
> It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.

  https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick

looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to your needs.

> I envision a file structure of
> /dev/sdX
> 	/alpha		optional partition for GRUB or LILO
> 	/beta		bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
> 	/gamma		repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
> 	/delta		collection of preseed.cfg files

That too looks like it could be accomodated but the need to partition
isn't necessary.

-- 
Brian.

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#173535 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-17 17:40 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<stib7-5fR-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173533
On 10/17/2016 10:22 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 17 Oct 2016 at 09:40:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> If some of this sounds familiar, I have asked related questions in the past.
>> [I do have copies of previous posts&replies for reference.
>>   I've re-read most but may have missed reading some due to how I sorted
>> them.]
>> I think I can give a better description of what I wish to accomplish.
>> The laptop I used for previous experiment is now classed as unreliable,
>> which may have been cause of some previous problems. I have a healthy
>> desktop machine now.
>>
>> Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a physical set of
>> purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].
>>
>> I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install medium.
>> I DO NOT wish to install to the flash drive (one person called that 'Debian
>> to Go']
>> It shall be bootable
>> It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can boot from a USB
>> device.
>> It shall have a repository equivalent to the contents on all 13 DVD's.
>> It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.
>
>    https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick
>
> looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to your needs.

I'd seen it and caused me to think what I wanted might be reasonable.
I tried to follow it but got tangled up. Perhaps should try again 
after a good night's sleep.

>
>> I envision a file structure of
>> /dev/sdX
>> 	/alpha		optional partition for GRUB or LILO
>> 	/beta		bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
>> 	/gamma		repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
>> 	/delta		collection of preseed.cfg files
>
> That too looks like it could be accomodated but the need to partition
> isn't necessary.
>

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#173547 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk>
Date2016-10-17 20:10 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<stkwh-6WQ-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173535
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:33:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/17/2016 10:22 AM, Brian wrote:
> >On Mon 17 Oct 2016 at 09:40:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>If some of this sounds familiar, I have asked related questions in the past.
> >>[I do have copies of previous posts&replies for reference.
> >>  I've re-read most but may have missed reading some due to how I sorted
> >>them.]
> >>I think I can give a better description of what I wish to accomplish.
> >>The laptop I used for previous experiment is now classed as unreliable,
> >>which may have been cause of some previous problems. I have a healthy
> >>desktop machine now.
> >>
> >>Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a physical set of
> >>purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].
> >>
> >>I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install medium.
> >>I DO NOT wish to install to the flash drive (one person called that 'Debian
> >>to Go']
> >>It shall be bootable
> >>It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can boot from a USB
> >>device.
> >>It shall have a repository equivalent to the contents on all 13 DVD's.
> >>It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.
> >
> >   https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick
> >
> >looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to your needs.
> 
> I'd seen it and caused me to think what I wanted might be reasonable.
> I tried to follow it but got tangled up. Perhaps should try again after a
> good night's sleep.
> 
> >
> >>I envision a file structure of
> >>/dev/sdX
> >>	/alpha		optional partition for GRUB or LILO
> >>	/beta		bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
> >>	/gamma		repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
> >>	/delta		collection of preseed.cfg files
> >
> >That too looks like it could be accomodated but the need to partition
> >isn't necessary.
> >
>

Double layer Blu-Ray disk image. Use dd to write this to a single stick. That will give you virtually everything you need to install. 

A second USB stick to hold preseed files and the .iso files for dlbd1 and dlbd 2 in case you really need it (chances are you won't - since the first DL-BD will be the first 10 DVDs in one directly bootable image) 

One USB stick will be bootable and install almost all of Debian (50G or 10 or 11 DVDs). Otionally, you can use the second large stick and apt-cdrom add to add in any packages which aren't on the dl-bd image you use to install.

One 64G stick might hold both .iso files and any preseeds you write - so 2 x 64G sticks might work.

Hope this helps,

AndyC
 

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#173553 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-17 21:40 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<stlVo-7Rn-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173547
On 10/17/2016 1:08 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> [SNIP]
>>
>
> Double layer Blu-Ray disk image. Use dd to write this to a single stick. That will give you virtually everything you need to install.

"virtually everything" <> "everything" by *DEFINITION*

>
> A second USB stick to hold preseed files and the .iso files for dlbd1 and dlbd 2 in case you really need it (chances are you won't - since the first DL-BD will be the first 10 DVDs in one directly bootable image)

"2 flash drives"  <> "1 flash drive"     <GRIN>
   THEREFORE *UNACCEPTABLE* by specification ;/
So I'm looking to near future when >= 128 GB flash drives available.
[currently commercially available 1 TB USB connected rotating 
medium is acceptable ;]

>
> One USB stick will be bootable and install almost all of Debian (50G or 10 or 11 DVDs). Optionally, you can use the second large stick and apt-cdrom add to add in any packages which aren't on the dl-bd image you use to install.
>
> One 64G stick might hold both .iso files and any preseeds you write - so 2 x 64G sticks might work.

Project specification *IS* :
   13 DVD's in --> *1* device out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;/

>
> Hope this helps,
>
> AndyC
>
>
>

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#174132 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-02 12:50 +0100
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sz2dj-5Ek-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173553
On Monday 17 October 2016 20:32:54 Richard Owlett wrote:
> So I'm looking to near future when >= 128 GB flash drives available.

They already are, and larger.  
See e.g.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128bbeu.html
and
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128baeu.html

That was just a quick trawl at my local shop.  I am sure that newegg or 
whatever you guys use will have them if we have them in our backwoods. ;-)

Going slightly further afield produced this:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sandisk-cruzer-glide-usb-2-0-flash-drive-memory-stick-256gb-sdcz60-256g-b35

I rest my case. ;-)

Lisi

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#174133 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-11-02 17:00 +0100
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sz67f-8aH-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174132
On 11/2/2016 6:49 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 17 October 2016 20:32:54 Richard Owlett wrote:
>> So I'm looking to near future when >= 128 GB flash drives available.
>
> They already are, and larger.
> See e.g.
>
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128bbeu.html
> and
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128baeu.html
>
> That was just a quick trawl at my local shop.  I am sure that newegg or
> whatever you guys use will have them if we have them in our backwoods. ;-)
>
> Going slightly further afield produced this:
> https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sandisk-cruzer-glide-usb-2-0-flash-drive-memory-stick-256gb-sdcz60-256g-b35
>
> I rest my case. ;-)
>
> Lisi
>

I'll see your backwoods and raise our wide open prairie, 
southwest corner of Missouri ;/
I just looked and the national sites for Staples and Office Depot 
list them.
The last time I looked at our local Staples, they only had 64 GB.
Hadn't done an exhaustive search as 64 GB can handle my immediate 
need (as opposed to my dreams).

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#174154 — RE: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromBonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl>
Date2016-11-03 17:40 +0100
SubjectRE: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sztdv-6nD-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174132
Hi,

>On Monday 17 October 2016 20:32:54 Richard Owlett wrote:
>> So I'm looking to near future when >= 128 GB flash drives available.
>
> They already are, and larger.  See e.g.
> 
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128bbeu.html
> and
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128baeu.html
> 
> That was just a quick trawl at my local shop.  I am sure that newegg or whatever you guys use will have them if we have them in our backwoods. ;-)
> 
> Going slightly further afield produced this:
> https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sandisk-cruzer-glide-usb-2-0-flash-drive-memory-stick-256gb-sdcz60-256g-b35
> 
> I rest my case. ;-)

I will let it rest until I have had my this to say, why stop at 256GB?
https://www.google.nl/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_nlNL671NL671&q=1TB+usb+drive&gws_rd=ssl#q=1TB+usb+drive&hl=nl&tbm=shop

Bonno

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#174157 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-03 18:20 +0100
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sztQe-6Qe-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174154
On Thursday 03 November 2016 16:27:17 Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >On Monday 17 October 2016 20:32:54 Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> So I'm looking to near future when >= 128 GB flash drives available.
> >
> > They already are, and larger.  See e.g.
> >
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128bb
> >eu.html and
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-usb/usb3.0/muf-128ba
> >eu.html
> >
> > That was just a quick trawl at my local shop.  I am sure that newegg or
> > whatever you guys use will have them if we have them in our backwoods.
> > ;-)
> >
> > Going slightly further afield produced this:
> > https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sandisk-cruzer-glide-usb-2-0-flash-driv
> >e-memory-stick-256gb-sdcz60-256g-b35
> >
> > I rest my case. ;-)
>
> I will let it rest until I have had my this to say, why stop at 256GB?
> https://www.google.nl/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_
>nlNL671NL671&q=1TB+usb+drive&gws_rd=ssl#q=1TB+usb+drive&hl=nl&tbm=shop

:-))  I only said e.g.. ;-)  And I just started locally.

Lisi 

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#173738 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-10-22 21:00 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<sv9Gp-79Q-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173535
On 10/17/2016 10:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/17/2016 10:22 AM, Brian wrote:
>> On Mon 17 Oct 2016 at 09:40:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>[snip
>>> Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a
>>> physical set of purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].
>>>
>>> I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install
>>> medium. I *DO NOT* wish to install to the flash drive (not 'Debian to Go').
>>> It shall be bootable
>>> It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can
>>> boot from a USB device.
>>> It shall have a repository with contents on all 13 DVD's.
>>> It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.
>>
>>    https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick
>>
>> looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to
>> your needs.
>
> I'd seen it and caused me to think what I wanted might be reasonable.
>  I tried to follow it but got tangled up. Perhaps should try again
> after a good night's sleep.

That was one major problem. Another is the author's style was not 
suitable for me.
It probably would fine someone whose goal was identical to the 
author's. I believe it has all the pieces. I will attempt to 
follow a dictum I heard decades ago - Plan the Work. Work the Plan.

>>> I envision a file structure of
>>> /dev/sdX
>>>     /alpha        optional partition for GRUB or LILO
>>>     /beta        bootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
>>>     /gamma        repository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
>>>     /delta        collection of preseed.cfg files
>>
>> That too looks like it could be accommodated but the need to
>> partitionisn't necessary.

It is necessary to match goals and constraints I haven't 
described in detail.

I'll try to demonstrate something in a week or so.
Some thought is needed on the "Plan the Work" step.

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#173742 — Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-10-22 21:40 +0200
SubjectRe: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?
Message-ID<svaj7-7Ca-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173738
On Sat 22 Oct 2016 at 13:54:28 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> >On 10/17/2016 10:22 AM, Brian wrote:
> >>
> >>   https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick
> >>
> >>looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to
> >>your needs.
> >
> >I'd seen it and caused me to think what I wanted might be reasonable.
> > I tried to follow it but got tangled up. Perhaps should try again
> >after a good night's sleep.
> 
> That was one major problem. Another is the author's style was not suitable
> for me.

You leave your "major problem" unexpressed (will we ever know?) but have
focussed on concerns about the style on the wiki page at

   https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick

If the author had known his efforts were not suitable for Richard Owlett
I'm sure he would have written differently. He should be reprimanded for
not tailoring his advice to your needs. Get in touch and badger him to
amend his ways. From all accounts, he is a very reasonable and pleasant
chap.

It's a wiki, of course. Guess what? You can make it better.

> It probably would fine someone whose goal was identical to the author's. I
> believe it has all the pieces. I will attempt to follow a dictum I heard
> decades ago - Plan the Work. Work the Plan.

By God! I wish I had said that.

-- 
Brian.

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