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Graphics issues debian 8.6

Started byMark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com>
First post2016-10-11 22:10 +0200
Last post2016-11-02 12:10 +0100
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  Graphics issues debian 8.6 Mark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com> - 2016-10-11 22:10 +0200
    Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-10-11 22:30 +0200
      Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Mark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com> - 2016-10-11 23:30 +0200
        Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 12:10 +0100
    Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-10-11 23:10 +0200
    Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-10-11 23:20 +0200
    Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-11 23:40 +0200
    Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 00:10 +0200
    Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 12:10 +0100

#173422 — Graphics issues debian 8.6

FromMark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com>
Date2016-10-11 22:10 +0200
SubjectGraphics issues debian 8.6
Message-ID<srbx7-2Kh-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
I'm building a backup server which will be tucked away.  For the odd times 
that it needs administration, I want to be able to see the server's desktop 
(XFCE) remotely.  The server has a Gigabyte GA-H110N (Intel H110 chipset) 
motherboard, an i3 CPU, 8 Mb of RAM.  It is using the on-board Intel graphics.

Before I remove the keyboard and monitor from it, I want to be sure that 
everything is working properly.  So, using a monitor and keyboard directly 
connected to the server, I am able to log in to an X session, BUT, the 
resolution of the session is 1024 X 768, not the 1280 X 1024 that I expect and 
that I see in other distros.  There seems to be no option to change this 
resolution.

In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:

#apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel

but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.

My problem is not just getting the proper resolution on a local display, but 
also I want to remotely log into a graphical desktop.

Thanks for any help,

Mark

PS.  If I have left anything out, or haven't explained clearly, please ask me 
for clarification and/or missing information.

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#173424

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-10-11 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<srbQu-2QB-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173422
On 10/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mark Neidorff wrote:
>
> In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:
>
> #apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel
>
> but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.
>

is nonfree enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?

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#173429

FromMark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com>
Date2016-10-11 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<srcMy-3ql-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173424
On Tuesday, 10/11/16 03:25:30 PM Mark Allums wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:
> > 
> > #apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel
> > 
> > but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.
> 
> is nonfree enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?

Yes, I think it is.  Below is the contents of the file:
*******************************************
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
20160917-14:25]/ jessie contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
20160917-14:25]/ jessie main contrib

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free

deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie non-free main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates contrib main non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
***********************************************

Thanks,

Mark

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#174131

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-02 12:10 +0100
Message-ID<sz1AB-5s2-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173429
On Tuesday 11 October 2016 22:25:56 Mark Neidorff wrote:
> On Tuesday, 10/11/16 03:25:30 PM Mark Allums wrote:
> > On 10/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > > In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:
> > >
> > > #apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel
> > >
> > > but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware
> > > file.
> >
> > is nonfree enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?
>
> Yes, I think it is.  Below is the contents of the file:
> *******************************************
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
> 20160917-14:25]/ jessie contrib main
>
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
> 20160917-14:25]/ jessie main contrib
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free
>
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie non-free main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates contrib main non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
>
> # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates non-free contrib main
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
> non-free ***********************************************
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark

Why have you left contrib out of these two lines:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie non-free main

And non-free out of:
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib

?

Lisi

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#173427

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-10-11 23:10 +0200
Message-ID<srctb-3jq-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173422
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 16:10:10 -0400
Mark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com> wrote:

> I'm building a backup server which will be tucked away.  For the odd
> times that it needs administration, I want to be able to see the
> server's desktop (XFCE) remotely.  
> 
> My problem is not just getting the proper resolution on a local
> display, but also I want to remotely log into a graphical desktop.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS.  If I have left anything out, or haven't explained clearly,
> please ask me for clarification and/or missing information.
> 

Just curiosity, really. I'm wondering why you need graphics on a server.

-- 
Joe

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#173428

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2016-10-11 23:20 +0200
Message-ID<srcCS-3n1-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173422
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 04:10:10PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> I'm building a backup server which will be tucked away.  For the odd times 
> that it needs administration, I want to be able to see the server's desktop 
> (XFCE) remotely.  The server has a Gigabyte GA-H110N (Intel H110 chipset) 
> motherboard, an i3 CPU, 8 Mb of RAM.  It is using the on-board Intel graphics.

If you're firing up X remotely, you don't care what the server's
graphics card can do. 

Install tightvncserver or vnc4server, make sure that you can
tunnel through SSL or SSH, and you should be set.

Setting resolution will be a run-time option.

-dsr-

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#173430

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-11 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<srcWd-3tt-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173422
Mark Neidorff composed on 2016-10-11 16:10 (UTC-0400):

> I'm building a backup server which will be tucked away.  For the odd times
> that it needs administration, I want to be able to see the server's desktop
> (XFCE) remotely.  The server has a Gigabyte GA-H110N (Intel H110 chipset)
> motherboard, an i3 CPU, 8 Mb of RAM.  It is using the on-board Intel graphics.

> Before I remove the keyboard and monitor from it, I want to be sure that
> everything is working properly.  So, using a monitor and keyboard directly
> connected to the server, I am able to log in to an X session, BUT, the
> resolution of the session is 1024 X 768, not the 1280 X 1024 that I expect and
> that I see in other distros.  There seems to be no option to change this
> resolution.

> In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:

> #apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel

> but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.

> My problem is not just getting the proper resolution on a local display, but
> also I want to remotely log into a graphical desktop.

> Thanks for any help,

> Mark

> PS.  If I have left anything out, or haven't explained clearly, please ask me
> for clarification and/or missing information.

8.6 is Jessie, released April 2015. The Intel H110 chipset was released 
September 2015. One cannot expect satisfactory hardware support from a pure 
Jessie. With Debian, either you need Stretch (or Sid) instead of Jessie, or 
you need to upgrade Kernel and/or Xorg and/or (video) driver to version(s) 
supporting H110.

Do note it's possible you ultimately might not even want to use the Intel 
Xorg video driver. The integrated modesetting driver in Xorg server versions 
1.17.0 and up has been transitioning to preferred video driver status:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#173432

FromLiam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-12 00:10 +0200
Message-ID<srdpg-3Uq-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173422
On 2016-10-11, Mark Neidorff <mark@neidorff.com> wrote:
> I'm building a backup server which will be tucked away.  For the odd times 
> that it needs administration, I want to be able to see the server's desktop 
> (XFCE) remotely.  The server has a Gigabyte GA-H110N (Intel H110 chipset) 
> motherboard, an i3 CPU, 8 Mb of RAM.  It is using the on-board Intel graphics.
>
> Before I remove the keyboard and monitor from it, I want to be sure that 
> everything is working properly.  So, using a monitor and keyboard directly 
> connected to the server, I am able to log in to an X session, BUT, the 
> resolution of the session is 1024 X 768, not the 1280 X 1024 that I expect and 
> that I see in other distros.  There seems to be no option to change this 
> resolution.
>
> In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:
>
> #apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel

Those are two different packages, namely firmware-linux-nonfree and
xserver-xorg-video-intel. To get the former you will need to enable the
'non-free' component in your APT sources[1].

>
> but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.
>
> My problem is not just getting the proper resolution on a local display, but 
> also I want to remotely log into a graphical desktop.

You could install lightdm on the server and enable XDMCP. Alternativley
you could consider vnc4server.

>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Mark
>
> PS.  If I have left anything out, or haven't explained clearly, please ask me 
> for clarification and/or missing information.
>
>

1: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Component

-- 

Liam

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#174130

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-02 12:10 +0100
Message-ID<sz1AB-5s2-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173422
On Tuesday 11 October 2016 21:10:10 Mark Neidorff wrote:
> In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:
>
> #apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel
>
> but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.

Try:

#apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree xserver-xorg-video-intel

I think you will find that particular problem solved.

Note:  I have removed one hyphen.

Lisi

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