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mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor?

Started byTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
First post2016-10-07 23:30 +0200
Last post2016-10-08 02:50 +0200
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  mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-10-07 23:30 +0200
    Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> - 2016-10-07 23:40 +0200
      Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-10-07 23:50 +0200
        Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> - 2016-10-08 00:00 +0200
          Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-10-08 00:40 +0200
          Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-10-08 01:00 +0200
        Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-10-08 00:00 +0200
          Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-10-08 00:50 +0200
        Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-10-08 00:20 +0200
          Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-10-08 01:00 +0200
            Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2016-10-08 02:40 +0200
              Re: mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor? Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2016-10-08 02:50 +0200

#173295 — mc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor?

FromTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-10-07 23:30 +0200
Subjectmc using nano when vim.tiny is my default editor?
Message-ID<spKSl-6de-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon 
update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT 
use mcedit, its internal editor

tony
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#173296

FromAdrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Date2016-10-07 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<spL22-6h3-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173295
On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:23:00PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon
> update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT use
> mcedit, its internal editor

What does "echo $EDITOR" say in your shell?

The update-alternatives setting is only used when EDITOR is not set.

> tony

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Adrian

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#173297

FromTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-10-07 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<spLbH-6kI-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173296
On 10/07/2016 05:38 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:23:00PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon
>> update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT use
>> mcedit, its internal editor
> What does "echo $EDITOR" say in your shell?

tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$ echo $EDITOR

tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$


Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It 
shows that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?
>
> The update-alternatives setting is only used when EDITOR is not set.
>
>> tony
> cu
> Adrian
>


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#173298

FromAdrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Date2016-10-08 00:00 +0200
Message-ID<spLln-6oj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173297
On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:46:15PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 10/07/2016 05:38 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:23:00PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > > Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon
> > > update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT use
> > > mcedit, its internal editor
> > What does "echo $EDITOR" say in your shell?
> 
> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$ echo $EDITOR
> 
> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$

What does "echo $VISUAL" say in your shell?

> Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It shows
> that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
> How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?

export EDITOR=vim.tiny

(Assuming you are using bash as shell.)

cu
Adrian

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#173302

FromTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-10-08 00:40 +0200
Message-ID<spLY5-6Wy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173298
On 10/07/2016 05:58 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> export EDITOR=vim.tin
I've learned recently whil using this to configure $PATH, Tat this is 
going to set it for the current session only.
How can I make it permanent?

thanks,

Tony

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#173305

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-10-08 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<spMhr-749-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173298

On 10/07/2016 05:58 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:46:15PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 10/07/2016 05:38 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:23:00PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>> Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon
>>>> update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT use
>>>> mcedit, its internal editor
>>> What does "echo $EDITOR" say in your shell?
>>
>> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$ echo $EDITOR
>>
>> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$
>
> What does "echo $VISUAL" say in your shell?

tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$ echo $VISUAL

tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$

Same as $EDITOR
>
>> Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It shows
>> that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
>> How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?
>
> export EDITOR=vim.tiny
>
> (Assuming you are using bash as shell.)
>
> cu
> Adrian
>

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#173299

FromCharlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au>
Date2016-10-08 00:00 +0200
Message-ID<spLln-6oj-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173297
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 17:46:15 -0400 Tony Baldwin sent:

> Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It 
> shows that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
> How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?

	After contemplation, my reply is:

I use vi.

In my ~/.config/mc/mc.ext I have

	include/editor
	Open=%var{EDITOR:vi} %f

and


# Default target for anything not described above
default/*
	Open=%var{EDITOR:vi} %f
	View=%var{EDITOR:vi} %f

Maybe that will assist you.

Be well,
Charlie

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#173304

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-10-08 00:50 +0200
Message-ID<spM7L-70p-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173299

On 10/07/2016 05:57 PM, Charlie wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 17:46:15 -0400 Tony Baldwin sent:
>
>> Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It
>> shows that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
>> How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?
>
> 	After contemplation, my reply is:
>
> I use vi.
>
> In my ~/.config/mc/mc.ext I have
>
> 	include/editor
> 	Open=%var{EDITOR:vi} %f
>
>
I don't find such a file.
I suppose I could create it and see what happens.

I tried, and I gkeep getting some error about a file error with that 
file, because the structure of it has changed or I should copy the one 
from /etc/mc (which I did).
But I'm confused where to put the above.
I see "include/editor"in several places.
When I figured to put it where I first see include/editor, I get the 
complaint about the restructuring.
I put it elsehwere I get:

/usr/bin/sensible-editor: 25: /usr/bin/sensible-editor: 
/usr/bin/vim.basic: not found
But I definitely have vim installed. I used it to edit the file in question.

Thanks,
Tony

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#173300

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2016-10-08 00:20 +0200
Message-ID<spLEJ-6Oz-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173297
On Fri 07 Oct 2016 at 17:46:15 (-0400), Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 10/07/2016 05:38 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:23:00PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >>Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon
> >>update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT use
> >>mcedit, its internal editor
> >What does "echo $EDITOR" say in your shell?
> 
> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$ echo $EDITOR
> 
> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$
> 
> 
> Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It
> shows that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
> How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?
> >
> >The update-alternatives setting is only used when EDITOR is not set.

Perhaps you have
include/editor
    Open=%var{EDITOR:nano} %f
in your mc.ext file (whichever one it's reading).

Thus I have:
# Override the built-in editor which I never use
include/editor
    Open=%var{EDITOR:less} %f

Cheers,
David.

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#173306

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-10-08 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<spMhr-749-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173300

On 10/07/2016 06:11 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 07 Oct 2016 at 17:46:15 (-0400), Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 10/07/2016 05:38 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:23:00PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>> Why is mc using nano when vim.tiny is set as my editor upon
>>>> update-alternatives --config editor?, and, of course, mc is set to NOT use
>>>> mcedit, its internal editor
>>> What does "echo $EDITOR" say in your shell?
>>
>> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$ echo $EDITOR
>>
>> tony@deathstar:~/.config/mc$
>>
>>
>> Apparently nothing, but when I do update-alternatives to set it, It
>> shows that vim.tiny is currently the chosen default (visudo uses it)
>> How do I set $EDITOR if not with update-alternatives?
>>>
>>> The update-alternatives setting is only used when EDITOR is not set.
>
> Perhaps you have
> include/editor
>     Open=%var{EDITOR:nano} %f
> in your mc.ext file (whichever one it's reading).
>
> Thus I have:
> # Override the built-in editor which I never use
> include/editor
>     Open=%var{EDITOR:less} %f
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>

I find no mention of nano anywhere in the file in question.
I assume, now that I have copied /etc/me/mc.ext to ~/.config/mc/me.ext
that is is now using the one in ~/.config

Tony

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#173309

FromBob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com>
Date2016-10-08 02:40 +0200
Message-ID<spNQd-8cv-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173306
Put in your ~/.bashrc lines like this:

export EDITOR="vim.tiny"
export VISUAL=$EDITOR

Exit the current login session and then log in again, or load 
the new contents of ~/.bashrc with

$ . ~/.bashrc

Convince yourself that all is well in the environment with:

$ env

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#173310

FromBob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com>
Date2016-10-08 02:50 +0200
Message-ID<spNZT-8gy-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#173309
Almost forgot: in mc's "Options" drop-down menu, uncheck "Use 
internal editor."

(My taste is to use mc's internal viewer, so I leave that box 
checked.)

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