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| Started by | rlharris@oplink.net |
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| First post | 2016-09-19 00:30 +0200 |
| Last post | 2016-09-19 02:30 +0200 |
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page RELOAD by Firefox rlharris@oplink.net - 2016-09-19 00:30 +0200
Re: page RELOAD by Firefox Terence Levings <terence.levings@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 01:00 +0200
Re: page RELOAD by Firefox "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2016-09-19 02:00 +0200
Re: page RELOAD by Firefox Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2016-09-19 02:20 +0200
Re: page RELOAD by Firefox rlharris@oplink.net - 2016-09-19 06:20 +0200
Re: page RELOAD by Firefox Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2016-09-19 22:40 +0200
Re: page RELOAD by Firefox Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2016-09-19 02:30 +0200
| From | rlharris@oplink.net |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 00:30 +0200 |
| Subject | page RELOAD by Firefox |
| Message-ID | <siSL0-5wR-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
My limited G4 data allocation is being depleted much too rapidly for my budget. I suspect that the culprit is the web page of a personal weather station (PWS) in which page measurements are updated every ten minutes. I keep a Firefox window open to monitor the web page. I do not understand the mechanism, but every time I click on the window or tab in which the PWS web page is displayed, I see the latest data, without clicking the Firefox RELOAD button. Thus, it appears to me that the PWS web page somehow is notifying Firefox every time the web page is updated, and that Firefox is automatically loading the update. Is there a way to keep Firefox from automatically reloading this particular web page? Or am I misunderstanding what is happening here? RLH
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| From | Terence Levings <terence.levings@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 01:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <siTe1-5Hg-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172412 |
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On Sep 18, 2016 18:22, <rlharris@oplink.net> wrote: > > My limited G4 data allocation is being depleted much too rapidly for my > budget. I suspect that the culprit is the web page of a personal weather > station (PWS) in which page measurements are updated every ten minutes. I > keep a Firefox window open to monitor the web page. > > I do not understand the mechanism, but every time I click on the window or > tab in which the PWS web page is displayed, I see the latest data, without > clicking the Firefox RELOAD button. Thus, it appears to me that the PWS > web page somehow is notifying Firefox every time the web page is updated, > and that Firefox is automatically loading the update. > > Is there a way to keep Firefox from automatically reloading this > particular web page? Or am I misunderstanding what is happening here? > > RLH > > Likely some scripts are running on the page and refreshing the content periodically, many websites do this now. There are plugins available that can force stop the scripts on individual pages.
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| From | "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 02:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <siUa5-6fv-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172412 |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:21:57 -0500 rlharris@oplink.net wrote: > My limited G4 data allocation is being depleted much too rapidly for my > budget. I suspect that the culprit is the web page of a personal weather > station (PWS) in which page measurements are updated every ten minutes. I > keep a Firefox window open to monitor the web page. > > I do not understand the mechanism, but every time I click on the window or > tab in which the PWS web page is displayed, I see the latest data, without > clicking the Firefox RELOAD button. Thus, it appears to me that the PWS > web page somehow is notifying Firefox every time the web page is updated, > and that Firefox is automatically loading the update. > > Is there a way to keep Firefox from automatically reloading this > particular web page? Or am I misunderstanding what is happening here? You could only open the page only when you wish to check the weather, then close it. Some web pages run a JS script when loaded. That script then schedules itself to run asynchronously (in the background) every so often. It may be that the browser checks for updates/changes far more often than every 10 minutes.
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| From | Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 02:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <siUts-6HO-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172412 |
On 9/18/2016 3:21 PM, rlharris@oplink.net wrote: > My limited G4 data allocation is being depleted much too rapidly for my > budget. I suspect that the culprit is the web page of a personal weather > station (PWS) in which page measurements are updated every ten minutes. I > keep a Firefox window open to monitor the web page. > Is this web page on the PWS or out on the internet? Is the PWS using the same data connection you are using to access the web page? Is there advertising on this page? If you do not leave the page open in a tab, does your data allocation still get rapidly depleted? Maybe with more information someone will have an alternative suggestion. > I do not understand the mechanism, but every time I click on the window or > tab in which the PWS web page is displayed, I see the latest data, without > clicking the Firefox RELOAD button. Thus, it appears to me that the PWS > web page somehow is notifying Firefox every time the web page is updated, > and that Firefox is automatically loading the update. > > Is there a way to keep Firefox from automatically reloading this > particular web page? Or am I misunderstanding what is happening here? > > RLH > Another response already mentioned there are some add-ons related to refresh. For a limited data connection you might also want to go through the list of plugins and change the settings for some of them to 'Ask to activate'. If you have not already looked into them, maybe look into privacy badger, noscript, and some some kind of ad blocker. Later, Seeker
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| From | rlharris@oplink.net |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 06:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <siYdI-CF-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172421 |
On Sun, September 18, 2016 7:10 pm, Seeker wrote: > Is this web page on the PWS or out on the internet? > Is the PWS using the same data connection you are using to access the > web page? Is there advertising on this page? > If you do not leave the page open in a tab, does your data allocation > still get rapidly depleted? > > Maybe with more information someone will have an alternative suggestion. The page is associated with the weather underground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KTXSMITH14
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| From | Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 22:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sjdw6-1LI-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172426 |
On 9/18/2016 9:11 PM, rlharris@oplink.net wrote: > On Sun, September 18, 2016 7:10 pm, Seeker wrote: >> Is this web page on the PWS or out on the internet? >> Is the PWS using the same data connection you are using to access the >> web page? Is there advertising on this page? >> If you do not leave the page open in a tab, does your data allocation >> still get rapidly depleted? >> >> Maybe with more information someone will have an alternative suggestion. > > The page is associated with the weather underground: > > https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KTXSMITH14 > > > Looks like some kind of widget/script things to me that keep things up to date, without requiring a refresh of the page. Thought I saw something about 10 minutes when I loaded the page earlier in the morning, but going back later, current status is updated multiple times per minute, the radar map less often, but not too many minutes in between. The advertising cycles as well, so the amount of weather data versus ad data is a question. Privacy badger is not an ad blocker, but for this site, blocking the potential trackers blocks the ads. With noscript installed/enabled looks like the only thing that loads is the current conditions and reload/refresh is required to see updated information. Later, Seeker
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| From | Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> |
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| Date | 2016-09-19 02:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <siUD7-6KT-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172412 |
On 19/09/16 10:21, rlharris@oplink.net wrote: > Is there a way to keep Firefox from automatically reloading this > particular web page? Or am I misunderstanding what is happening here? Some pages are automatically reloaded with the HTML meta refresh tag: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_refresh For example, in <head>: <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="600"> If the page in question is refreshed with an HTML meta refresh tag, it might be possible to change this behaviour in Firefox by setting accessibility.blockautorefresh to true in about:config: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Accessibility.blockautorefresh I have not tried this option, but it is documented. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> Director Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/> New Zealand
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