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| First post | 2016-09-12 01:00 +0200 |
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Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-12 01:00 +0200
Re: Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-12 01:20 +0200
Re: Fwd: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 04:50 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-12 05:20 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 12:50 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-12 20:20 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 21:20 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:40 +0200
Re: icedove: failed to connect server XXX@gmail.com "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2016-09-13 01:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-13 15:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 16:50 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-13 19:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 21:40 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 22:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 23:20 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-13 19:30 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 23:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-14 03:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-14 08:50 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 11:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-14 17:40 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 19:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 21:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 21:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-14 22:50 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-14 23:20 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 00:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 01:40 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 02:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 12:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 14:40 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 20:10 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 23:50 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-15 02:20 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-15 02:10 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-15 12:10 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-15 12:50 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-15 13:00 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 18:20 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-15 18:50 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-15 19:50 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 20:00 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 20:30 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:50 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 20:10 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-15 21:30 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-09-16 03:10 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 03:40 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 04:40 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-09-16 11:10 +0200
Re: internet connectivity from Comcast Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-16 05:00 +0200
Re: Windows Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-16 10:40 +0200
Re: Windows Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:10 +0200
Re: Windows Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:40 +0200
Re: Windows (really about cut&paste) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 16:20 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:30 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:30 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 22:00 +0200
Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 21:20 +0200
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| From | Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-15 19:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) |
| Message-ID | <shIXo-1D5-45@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172188 |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:05:50 PM
Subject: Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...)
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-14 17:11 (UTC-0400):
> My final problem is: how to get my Jessie to get on line. I don't think this is
> anything anyone here can help me with, since I live in a retirement community
> which has a huge contract with Comcast.
Is it a cable account, or is it a DSL account? Appropriate help from here,
should you choose to accept any, depends on your answer.
It certainly isn't DSL. I have an Ethernet cable running from my machine
to a Comcast provided "modem" -- except that it is called a router. Quite
obviously it works well from my Windoze side(I am using MS Edge the M$ new
browser) to dial into mail.his.com, which uses the afore-mentioned Zimbra
Any suggestions you can give me would be welcome, especially since I know
you know your stuff<g>.
Also: although ALSA and pulse-audio are installed on the Jessie side, I get
no sound there(I have a couple of videos and some mp3s to test on. They played
well back in the Golden Days of Wheezy. Maybe you have suggestions about
how to get sound working under Jessie? Needless to say, I can play Donald
Trump speeches and Mozart on youtube from this present Edge browser, which
hasn't crashed once(iceweasel, under Jessie, used to crash continually; it
worked fine under wheezy)
And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me how
to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. But he may have given up
with his efforts to "help" me.
Alan
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-15 20:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) |
| Message-ID | <shJ74-1GD-33@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172250 |
On Thursday 15 September 2016 18:36:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me how > to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. Brian suggested a USB stick. You rudely poo-pooed it. Lisi
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-15 20:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) |
| Message-ID | <shJA5-25R-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172253 |
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 18:57:52 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 15 September 2016 18:36:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me how > > to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. > > Brian suggested a USB stick. You rudely poo-pooed it. Well, at least that's a reaction. My solution for copying *from* W10 was completely ignored by all, except google which has added two (possibly) random hex numbers to its repertoire. Cheers, David.
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-15 22:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) |
| Message-ID | <shLLA-3qc-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172257 |
On Thursday 15 September 2016 19:24:49 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 18:57:52 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 15 September 2016 18:36:58 Alan McConnell wrote: > > > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me > > > how to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. > > > > Brian suggested a USB stick. You rudely poo-pooed it. > > Well, at least that's a reaction. My solution for copying *from* > W10 was completely ignored by all, except google which has added > two (possibly) random hex numbers to its repertoire. Being ignored by Alan is less painful than being kicked!! I didn't really understand your solution, and as I cannot ever envisage myself wanting to transfer anything from Win10, anywhere, and am rather stressed and rushed at the moment, I rather skimmed over it. Sorry. :-( I'll try to come back to it and read it properly in the reasonably near future. Lisi
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-15 20:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast (was: How to get Jessie to run...) |
| Message-ID | <shJgK-1Z8-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172250 |
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 13:36:58 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me how > to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. But he may have given up > with his efforts to "help" me. Brian has decided he has nothing more to contibute beyond suggesting a USB stick to transfer files between the two OSs. Putting "help" in double quotes says a lot. But I'll learn to live with it. -- Brian.
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-15 21:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast |
| Message-ID | <shKwa-2Fo-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172250 |
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 13:36 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata composed: > Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-14 17:11 (UTC-0400): >>> My final problem is: how to get my Jessie to get on line. I don't think this is >>> anything anyone here can help me with, since I live in a retirement community >>> which has a huge contract with Comcast. >> Is it a cable account, or is it a DSL account? Appropriate help from here, >> should you choose to accept any, depends on your answer. > It certainly isn't DSL. I have an Ethernet cable running from my machine > to a Comcast provided "modem" -- except that it is called a router. Quite Called a "router" by whom, and where? Maybe help could better be forthcoming if you announced its brand name and a model number. From the description so far in this thread, yours seems to be one of those boxes that combine modem, router, switch and firewall. Does it also provide wireless? > obviously it works well from my Windoze side(I am using MS Edge the M$ new > browser) to dial into mail.his.com, which uses the afore-mentioned Zimbra > Any suggestions you can give me would be welcome, especially since I know > you know your stuff<g>. I know some stuff. Virturally no Comcast-specific connectivity is included. OTOH, Tony Baldwin and Jude DaShiell have offered Comcast-specific clues in this thread. > Also: although ALSA and pulse-audio are installed on the Jessie side, I get > no sound there... Different and new problem belongs in a virgin thread. > And if Brian is reading this, I remind him that he is going to tell me how > to use Jessie to copy to and from my Windows 10. But he may have given up > with his efforts to "help" me. This too belongs in a separate thread, but I'll provide a seed for you to try to fix on your own. This is from Jessie on a multiboot Dell that includes Windows 10: # grep ntfs /etc/fstab /dev/sda6 /win/C ntfs-3g nofail,users,gid=100,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0 # mount | grep eblk /dev/sda6 on /win/C type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096) # ls -gG /win/C total 3313985 -rw-rw-rw- 1 400228 Oct 30 2015 bootmgr -rw-rw-rw- 1 1 Oct 30 2015 BOOTNXT lrwxrwxrwx 2 60 Jul 27 06:06 Documents and Settings -> /win/C/Users -rw-rw-rw- 1 1648193536 Aug 5 03:52 hiberfil.sys drwxrwxrwx 1 49152 Apr 27 02:35 Logs -rw-rw-rw- 1 1476395008 Aug 5 03:52 pagefile.sys drwxrwxrwx 1 0 Oct 30 2015 PerfLogs drwxrwxrwx 1 4096 Jul 27 06:06 ProgramData drwxrwxrwx 1 4096 Apr 27 02:34 Program Files drwxrwxrwx 1 4096 Oct 30 2015 Program Files (x86) drwxrwxrwx 1 0 Jul 27 06:05 Recovery drwxrwxrwx 1 0 Aug 4 05:58 $Recycle.Bin -rw-rw-rw- 1 268435456 Aug 5 03:52 swapfile.sys drwxrwxrwx 1 4096 Jul 27 04:37 System Volume Information drwxrwxrwx 1 4096 Jul 27 04:55 Users drwxrwxrwx 1 24576 Jul 27 03:07 Windows If the above not enough help to get you where you want to be and you want more, start a separate thread with an appropriate subject line please. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 03:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast |
| Message-ID | <shPPb-697-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172261 |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:20:54 PM
Subject: Re: internet connectivity from Comcast
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 13:36 (UTC-0400):
> It certainly isn't DSL. I have an Ethernet cable running from my machine
> to a Comcast provided "modem" -- except that it is called a router. Quite
Called a "router" by whom, and where? Maybe help could better be forthcoming
if you announced its brand name and a model number. From the description so
far in this thread, yours seems to be one of those boxes that combine modem,
router, switch and firewall. Does it also provide wireless?
I don't think so: the little box on my desk is made by
Cisco. Model number: LinksysWUMC710
> Also: although ALSA and pulse-audio are installed on the Jessie side, I get
> no sound there...
Different and new problem belongs in a virgin thread.
<LOL> One will be forthcoming tomorrow.
This too belongs in a separate thread, but I'll provide a seed for you to try
to fix on your own. This is from Jessie on a multiboot Dell that includes
Windows 10:
# grep ntfs /etc/fstab
/dev/sda6 /win/C ntfs-3g nofail,users,gid=100,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
Already this doesn't work. I put my /etc/fstab on a USB stick which has a VFAT file
system on it, and my Windoze made a most satisfying chime when I stuck the stick
into one of the sockets on my USB splitter. I would give you the whole short text
file if I could swipe my mouse over it. But this is no go in Windoze, and I don't
know how to Copy and Paste in the Windoze world. So I'll just say here that my
fstab simply enumerates the partitions I made when I installed. Those are /dev/sda3,
/dev/sda4, etc. No mention of /dev/sda1, which is I believe called C: in the Windoze
world. I have my fstab, on E:, open as I write, but the wretched Notepad pays no
attention to the Unix 'CR's ! ! Takes me back decades!<G>.
This is another failure of the installer failing to recognize that there is another OS
on my hard drive. There is a class of people on this E-list who seem to think that
the Jessie installer couldn't possibly be expected to recognize a Windoze OS, especially
since Windows 10 is "so new". My reaction is: codswallop!
Thanks for your helpful attempt, Felix. Were your examples from a box with Windoze already
on it?
Alan
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 03:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast |
| Message-ID | <shQid-6iU-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172275 |
On Friday 16 September 2016 02:02:04 Alan McConnell wrote: > There is a class of people on this E-list who seem to think that > the Jessie installer couldn't possibly be expected to recognize a > Windoze OS, especially since Windows 10 is "so new". My reaction is: > codswallop! We know that. You seem to be completely unable to say anything politely. Let's just reword that: Jessie is old. That is the problem. If you use Stretch, which is new, apparently the problem is less and people are working on it. MS wanted to make it difficult, or preferably impossible, to dual boot with Windows 10, which doesn't help. The installer will not be rewritten for Jessie, which is old, because Jessie is Stable. I.e. things don't change. It could not be written for Windows 10 before Windows 10 existed, since the developers haven't got a crystal ball, much as you think that idea is codswallop, and it could not be rewritten for Windows 10 after Windows 10 existed because that is the nature of Stable. It doesn't change. Since you obviously don't like Jessie, and are unwilling to try to adapt to it, why on earth are you using it? There are loads of other things you could be using, including, but not only, other versions of Debian, which would probably suit you better. Do you think you could possibly try to be polite, just once? Incidentally: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/spellcheck/english/?q=E-list And the result of a search on E-list on the Oxford Dictionary site: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/a_&_e Lisi
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 04:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast |
| Message-ID | <shRei-6XI-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172275 |
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 21:02:04 (-0400), Alan McConnell wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:20:54 PM > Subject: Re: internet connectivity from Comcast > > Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 13:36 (UTC-0400): > > > It certainly isn't DSL. I have an Ethernet cable running from my machine > > to a Comcast provided "modem" -- except that it is called a router. Quite > > Called a "router" by whom, and where? Maybe help could better be forthcoming > if you announced its brand name and a model number. From the description so > far in this thread, yours seems to be one of those boxes that combine modem, > router, switch and firewall. Does it also provide wireless? > I don't think so: the little box on my desk is made by > Cisco. Model number: LinksysWUMC710 Now that is very revealing. It gives a whole new significance to the statement "I didn't attempt to copy down on a piece of paper what it wrote; trust me that it was unenlightening garbage." Anyway, moving on, here's a quotation from http://www.linksys.com/no/support-article?articleNum=135444 "The Linksys WUMC710 is a single band Wireless-AC Wi-Fi 5GHz Universal Media Connector Bridge with 4-Port Switch capable of connecting Ethernet devices to a wireless network." I think I'll quit here. Carrying on is too painful. Cheers, David.
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 11:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast |
| Message-ID | <shXjI-2Fs-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172277 |
On 2016-09-16, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > > I think I'll quit here. Carrying on is too painful. I'm here praying the machinery has the kind of malfunction that locks the pod bay doors while the pilot is out on a leisurely space walk. > Cheers, > David. > > -- “Whatever is rejected from the self, appears in the world as an event.” C.G. Jung
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 05:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: internet connectivity from Comcast |
| Message-ID | <shRxD-74v-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172275 |
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 21:02 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata composed: >> Called a "router" by whom, and where? Maybe help could better be forthcoming >> if you announced its brand name and a model number. From the description so >> far in this thread, yours seems to be one of those boxes that combine modem, >> router, switch and firewall. Does it also provide wireless? > I don't think so: the little box on my desk is made by > Cisco. Model number: LinksysWUMC710 So, this has an ethernet cable going between it and your PC, and it has a wall wart providing power to it. Are there any other ethernet cables connected to it? If so, where does/do it/they go? If not, where does the cable coming from Comcast come into your house, and what's the model number of whatever is connected to it there? In rough terms, how far is it from your PC and the LinksysWUMC710? Different room? Close enough to connect an ethernet cable between them? If yes to the last question, connect one and see if Jessie doesn't magically connect to the Internet. Some of these might sound like irrelevant questions, but they're not. You provide such a dearth of information about what you're working with or what you understand it's difficult to figure out how to help you, making it necessary to elicit useful information creatively. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 10:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Windows |
| Message-ID | <shWQG-2fE-35@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172275 |
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 21:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:20:54 PM > Subject: Re: internet connectivity from Comcast > > Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-15 13:36 (UTC-0400): > > > # grep ntfs /etc/fstab > /dev/sda6 /win/C ntfs-3g > nofail,users,gid=100,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0 > Already this doesn't work. I put my /etc/fstab on a USB stick which > has a VFAT file system on it, and my Windoze made a most satisfying > chime when I stuck the stick into one of the sockets on my USB > splitter. I would give you the whole short text file if I could > swipe my mouse over it. But this is no go in Windoze, and I don't > know how to Copy and Paste in the Windoze world. The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. Right-click, menu, or drag and drop. For a text file, open in Notepad (if it has a .txt suffix, just double-click), highlight, crtl-C, paste with ctrl-V. Where do you think the Linux DEs got their look and feel from? > So I'll just say > here that my fstab simply enumerates the partitions I made when I > installed. Those are /dev/sda3, /dev/sda4, etc. No mention > of /dev/sda1, which is I believe called C: in the Windoze world. I > have my fstab, on E:, open as I write, but the wretched Notepad pays > no attention to the Unix 'CR's ! ! Takes me back decades!<G>. Use Wordpad. /etc/fstab doesn't know about any partitions you didn't install with, even if they're Linux. Systemd will generally mount things, either at boot or on demand as you explicitly tell it with new fstab entries. Removable media will generally be automounted under /media/<your login> and don't need fstab entries. It's the job of grub to pick up other installed OSes, and boot them. Grub doesn't want to know about their filesystems. I don't know the incantation for mounting a Windows partition for a user, I've never bothered with it. If I run Linux on my Win8a laptop, I get the partitions mounted automatically with root privileges, and if I really need to write to one, I open mc with sudo. But I do usually use a FAT USB stick, and either OS automounts it R/W. -- Joe
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 13:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Windows |
| Message-ID | <shZbQ-3TI-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172288 |
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote: >> But this is no go in Windoze, and I don't >> know how to Copy and Paste in the Windoze world. > > The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. Right-click, > menu, or drag and drop. For a text file, open in Notepad (if it has > a .txt suffix, just double-click), highlight, crtl-C, paste with > ctrl-V. Where do you think the Linux DEs got their look and feel from? The same place Windows got it from: the Common User Access guidelines. Ctrl-Ins to copy, Shift-Ins to paste, and the Ctrl-X/C/V as optional bonuses. ChrisA
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 13:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Windows |
| Message-ID | <shZER-44g-25@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172288 |
On Friday 16 September 2016 09:34:56 Joe wrote: > The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. No, that is not how I do it in Linux, and having to do it that cumbersome way in Windows and sometimes LibreOffice is a constant minor niggle. In Linux, I sweep the mouse over what I want to copy to select it, then go to where I want to paste it and middle click. On a two button mouse press both buttons simultaneously. In my DE that even works in the terminal. Lisi
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 16:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Windows (really about cut&paste) |
| Message-ID | <si29H-5Pq-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172296 |
On Fri 16 Sep 2016 at 12:30:47 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 16 September 2016 09:34:56 Joe wrote: > > The same way you do in any medium-heavyweight Linux DE. > > No, that is not how I do it in Linux, and having to do it that cumbersome way > in Windows and sometimes LibreOffice is a constant minor niggle. > > In Linux, I sweep the mouse over what I want to copy to select it, then go to > where I want to paste it and middle click. On a two button mouse press both > buttons simultaneously. > > In my DE that even works in the terminal. Have a care, we don't want Harry Hill shouting "Fiiiiiiight!" All these methods work in various circumstances because X tries to allow them all. But the way they interact is complicated by which buffer is holding the information: X selection, Clipboard, Kill-ring; on the local machine, on the remote machine, etc. And where the pasted information goes is also configurable: in emacs I can select with the mouse like Lisi, but the paste will always go to the active cursor position (at the flashing blob called "point"), not to where the middle button is clicked. But that's my choice; and probably not the default. This is one area where a bit of experimentation will help much more than trying to understand the scattered documentation. There's no Gates/Jobs (showing my age) defining and documenting what can be done, and I don't think it's possible to write a document that would cover every conceivable DE, WM, browser, editor, office-style app etc., 2/3/N-button mouse, not forgeting the entire repertoire of keyboards, languages and key-redefinitions that are possible. (And don't forget the plain old linux console.) The best I've found (for me) is https://specifications.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-latest.txt Cheers, David.
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-14 09:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <shcNP-6gS-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172156 |
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 01:50:44 Alan McConnell wrote: > More perhaps tomorrow. I have tasks to perform before bed. But maybe > someone can tell me why the installer can't look at the partitions and > determine that there is some kind of OS already installed? Why does it > have to know about Windows 10 to behave sensibly? "Curious minds . . . " It can. But MS put a lot of effort into making it difficult to dual boot with Windows 10, and the installer you are using was, as you have been told, written before Windows 10 was released. The first installer to be written AFTER Windows 10 can apparently handle it well. I haven't tried. Lisi
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-14 09:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <shcNP-6gS-29@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172156 |
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 01:50:44 Alan McConnell wrote: > Re Royal Holloway: boys were added in 1966, a year before my time > there. But there were always male faculty there, especially in math, which > subject has, most unfortunately, suffered from a dearth of qualified women. > This is beginning to change: the AMS puts a lot of effort in supporting > women and departments supporting women. But: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Scott and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_Fawcett Quality, not quantity. Lisi
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 22:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sh225-6k1-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172090 |
On Mon 12 Sep 2016 at 14:14:53 (-0400), Alan McConnell wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Felix Miata" <mrmazda@earthlink.net> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:14:26 PM > Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > > David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500): > ... > >> Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved > ... > How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives to > continue a thread by chastising an OP for being imperfect more than 12 hours > after OP added string "solved" to the subject and thanked people who provided > useful help? > <LOL> Hurrah for Felix! He got it. Glad you found it funny. > > Now I have a follow-on question: I'd like to be able, from Jessie, to copy files to and from my > Windoze system. I haven't really tried simply cd-ing to e.g. /dev/sda1, which is the partition > containing my Windoze stuff. Is that what you dual OS users do? is there some subtle mount > command that you use? I shall be most grateful for any instructions, or even suggestions. I put lines in /etc/fstab that look like: UUID=8CA476AAA4769684 /media/olaf01 ntfs ro,utf8 UUID=349A79B99A797866 /media/olaf02 ntfs ro,utf8 where those UUIDs come from dire /dev/disk/by-uuid/* or /run/udev/data/b* but bear in mind that I only transfer file in one direction. I don't mess with NTFS disks: if I want to move files, I transfer them via a VFAT stick in the USB socket. That way, if and when they get screwed up, the blame lies firmly with M$. (The mount points follow my convention of the disk's nickname plus two digits for the partition numbers.) For anyone following this thread, do they recognise those UUIDs? The reason I ask is that I have two XP systems both with those numbers, but I have no idea if the university installs new PC OSes by cloning disks, or whether the UUIDs carry information like 30E002E0454647 now does. (Until today, google didn't find them; tomorrow it might.) Cheers, David.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 21:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sh1po-64P-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172074 |
On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 23:14:26 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> David Wright composed on 2016-09-11 21:44 (UTC-0500):
> ...
> >>Subject: Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved
> ...
> How is it beneficial to list anyone here or searching list archives
> to continue a thread by chastising an OP for being imperfect more
> than 12 hours after OP added string "solved" to the subject and
> thanked people who provided useful help?
What does "12 hours" have to do with the price of fish?
Ironic to say that about a post that itself contains:
"Re your last post quoted above, what's the problem with running jessie
and reporting the information you were asked for? I assume that you
installed jessie so that you could run it occasionally.
I know some people on this list treat it like the telephone ("I'm
going to bed now, and will try it in the morning" kind of thing) but
the list will wait for the next occasion that you boot up your jessie.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In fact, it often pays *not* to give quick responses because it gives
you time to think on the problem, and you *are* the best-placed
person to come up with a solution (as you have done, in a way)."
The reasons I posted:
AMcC drew attention to the title of his post: "How to get Jessie to
run at boot time -- Problem solved" where it's not clear that the
problem being solved is what's in the title, nor that the "solution"
is anything more that a workaround that does something for him.
His annoyance at being asked to provide more information so that
people trying to help can have a decent crack of the whip.
His implication that people should only ask those questions if
they move in the company of experts in Debian or grub.
So that summary I wrote was to explain why I was still mystified as to
the nature of his problem and its "solution", and how the "L or M"
business might help with matters. Knowing what is on the screen when
he presses F12 might help; there again, it might not. On this Dell,
F12 gives you a chance to boot from HardDrive/CD/USB without having
to enter the CMOS and change the default priorities. It has no
choice of which sector is read on the device selected. Perhaps
Dells have changed. Maybe BIOS/UEFI has something to do without it.
So I wrote:
"I don't know what you see when you press F12, and I don't understand
what the "L or M" business is in times past."
which invites a reply without being a direct question (something AMcC
seems to take exception to, unless coming from "experts"; not me then).
I notice that AMcC has now written that his procedure is cumbersome
(though I still don't know what it is). In the next sentence, he
continues to blame the installer, and hopes it gets fixed.
Cheers,
David.
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