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How to arrange for booting to console

Started byHarry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
First post2016-09-11 23:10 +0200
Last post2016-09-16 13:40 +0200
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  How to arrange for booting to console Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> - 2016-09-11 23:10 +0200
    Re: How to arrange for booting to console Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2016-09-11 23:50 +0200
    Re: How to arrange for booting to console The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-09-11 23:50 +0200
      Re: How to arrange for booting to console Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> - 2016-09-12 01:00 +0200
        Re: How to arrange for booting to console The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2016-09-12 01:10 +0200
          Re: How to arrange for booting to console Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 09:00 +0200
        Re: How to arrange for booting to console davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-12 08:00 +0200
        Re: How to arrange for booting to console David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 15:50 +0200
          Re: How to arrange for booting to console Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-17 08:40 +0200
            Re: How to arrange for booting to console David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 21:50 +0200
              Re: How to arrange for booting to console Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 22:30 +0200
              Re: How to arrange for booting to console Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-09-19 22:30 +0200
    Re: How to arrange for booting to console davidson@freevolt.org - 2016-09-12 00:00 +0200
      Re: How to arrange for booting to console Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:40 +0200

#172063 — How to arrange for booting to console

FromHarry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
Date2016-09-11 23:10 +0200
SubjectHow to arrange for booting to console
Message-ID<sgkaJ-2Mn-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
ability to startx when I feel like it.

I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris
host appears to be using grub2.

Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?

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#172064

FromMichael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>
Date2016-09-11 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<sgkNr-2YU-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Am 11.09.2016 um 23:04 schrieb Harry Putnam:
> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> 
> I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris
> host appears to be using grub2.
> 
> Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?
> 

Assuming you use jessie (and systemd),

systemctl set-default multi-user.target

should do the trick. You can get the current default with

systemctl get-default

It's typically graphical.target.


-- 
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?

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#172065

FromThe Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Date2016-09-11 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<sgkNr-2YU-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:

> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> 
> I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris
> host appears to be using grub2.
> 
> Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?

Unless you actually want to be able to get to the graphical login
prompt, I don't believe you need to mess with GRUB, the bootloader, or
the initrd at all.

The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
prompt, and your configured shell after login.

From there, assuming other permissions are configured correctly (which I
seem to recall may take some tweaking, under the systemd paradigm),
'startx' should work normally. It may or may not pick up your desired
window manager; I believe the Debian Way to specify that is to select
one as the preferred alternative for the 'x-window-manager' link group.

If you do want to keep one or more of those packages present, or if you
want to do this more explicitly / manually, you'll probably need to look
at those packages and figure out what it is they do to hook themselves
in as the login prompt. I haven't investigated exactly what they change
in order to do that, so I can't directly help you there.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#172067

FromHarry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
Date2016-09-12 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<sglTb-3Dd-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172065
The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:

> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
>> ability to startx when I feel like it.
>> 

[...]

> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
> are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
> none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
> prompt, and your configured shell after login.
>

[...]

That sounds promissing.  Used one of the methods below and quickly
realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
much higher resolution than the standard. (Previously my OS of choice
was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....

Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
a console frame buffer.

Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:

> Assuming you use jessie (and systemd),
>
> systemctl set-default multi-user.target
>
> should do the trick. You can get the current default with
>
> systemctl get-default
>
> It's typically graphical.target.

Thanks, I actually used  your suggestion of
   systemctl set-default multi-user.target

Worked just as suggested.  I have the job running that was running out
of memory.. so I'll see if leaving X out of things is enough to allow
it to complete.  See above for some sniveling about the default
console.

davidson@freevolt.org writes:

> If using systemd, these look relevant:
>
>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.
>
>  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingthedefaultboottarget
>
>  # ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target
>
>> With the ability to startx when I feel like it.
>
>  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>
>  # systemctl isolate graphical.target

Thanks, your suggestion is a little more complete version of Davidson
above.... again thanks.

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#172069

FromThe Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Date2016-09-12 01:10 +0200
Message-ID<sgm2R-3Vr-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 2016-09-11 at 18:52, Harry Putnam wrote:

> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
> 
>> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> 
>>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With
>>> the ability to startx when I feel like it.

>> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera;
>> those are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login
>> prompt. With none of them present, what you get is the traditional
>> text-mode login prompt, and your configured shell after login.
> 
> That sounds promissing.  Used one of the methods below and quickly
> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with
> a much higher resolution than the standard. (Previously my OS of
> choice was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I
> recall it is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line
> grub.conf....
> 
> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to
> allow a console frame buffer.

AFAIK, the GRUB2 menu is defined from /boot/grub/grub.cfg; the headers
of that file say that it's generated from templates in /etc/grub.d/ and
settings in /etc/default/grub.

Based on a quick look in those locations, you probably want to adjust
one of the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX* settings in the latter file. I haven't
done much tweaking in that area myself, however (I only migrated to
GRUB2 within the last year, give or take), so I can't confirm that with
any certainty.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#172078

FromTixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date2016-09-12 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<sgtnI-8f3-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172069
On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 19:03 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> AFAIK, the GRUB2 menu is defined from /boot/grub/grub.cfg; the headers
> of that file say that it's generated from templates in /etc/grub.d/ and
> settings in /etc/default/grub.
> 
> Based on a quick look in those locations, you probably want to adjust
> one of the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX* settings in the latter file. I haven't
> done much tweaking in that area myself, however (I only migrated to
> GRUB2 within the last year, give or take), so I can't confirm that with
> any certainty.

That's how I tweak grub to change things like the boot timeout and
kernel commandline. I.e. edit etc/default/grub and as that file says
"run 'update-grub' afterwards".

-- 
Tixy

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#172077

Fromdavidson@freevolt.org
Date2016-09-12 08:00 +0200
Message-ID<sgsrD-7FI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172067
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Harry Putnam wrote:

> That sounds promissing.  Used one of the methods below and quickly
> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
> much higher resolution than the standard. (Previously my OS of choice
> was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
> is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....
>
> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
> a console frame buffer.

Maybe OP will find this thread helpful:

  "Debian Jessie : regular console instead of a hi-res one!"
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00127.html

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#172298

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2016-09-16 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<si1GF-5m2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172067
I missed this reply until Lisi bumped the thread.
These are my opinions, based of the pathetically little I know.

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:52:59 (-0400), Harry Putnam wrote:
> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
> 
> > On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
> >
> >> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> >> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> >> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
> > are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
> > none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
> > prompt, and your configured shell after login.
> >
> 
> [...]
> 
> That sounds promissing.  

It ought to. It's the display managers that start X. If they're not
there, you've to start it yourself with startx.

> Used one of the methods below and quickly
> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
> much higher resolution than the standard.

But you got ... what?

If you want to know whether you're looking at a nice big framebuffered
text console, install fbset and type
$ fbset
If you see something like:

mode "1280x800"
    geometry 1280 800 1280 800 32
    timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    accel true
    rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
endmode

then you are.

BTW What's the "standard" resolution of which you speak?

> (Previously my OS of choice
> was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
> is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....
> 
> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
> a console frame buffer.

I've yet to install a Debian system where the kernel didn't boot into
a console (VC1) running at anything other than the native/maximum
resolution. Now, maybe I'm lucky. Maybe I've had good fortune with
graphics devices, screens and everything else. But I would recommend
investigating exactly what you've got on booting up before you start
fiddling. Oh, and if you see your huge screen with a blurry 80x25
console on it, don't mistake font size for resolution.

Use   dpkg-reconfigure console-setup   to set utf-8, Latin1, the font
and its size. With a framebuffer you get more choice of size.
Note: don't ever run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup if X is running,
whether or not you're using it (eg by typing Ctl-Alt-Fn). It won't
have the desired effect and it might have you troubleshooting
problems of your own making.

As for systemctl set-default, no idea, never used it wittingly.
As for runlevels, well, as Lisi said, Debian doesn't use them in
the way some distributions do, which can cause confusion.
1 is single-user, 2 is normal. Apologies if that simplicity has been
abandoned in stretch since I last checked.

Cheers,
David.

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#172330

FromJude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
Date2016-09-17 08:40 +0200
Message-ID<sihs5-7sl-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172298
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote:

> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:38:31
> From: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console
> Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> I missed this reply until Lisi bumped the thread.
> These are my opinions, based of the pathetically little I know.
>
> On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:52:59 (-0400), Harry Putnam wrote:
>> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
>>
>>> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>>
>>>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
>>>> ability to startx when I feel like it.
>>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
>>> are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
>>> none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
>>> prompt, and your configured shell after login.
>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> That sounds promissing.
>
> It ought to. It's the display managers that start X. If they're not
> there, you've to start it yourself with startx.
>
>> Used one of the methods below and quickly
>> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
>> much higher resolution than the standard.
>
> But you got ... what?
>
> If you want to know whether you're looking at a nice big framebuffered
> text console, install fbset and type
> $ fbset
> If you see something like:
>
> mode "1280x800"
>    geometry 1280 800 1280 800 32
>    timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>    accel true
>    rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
> endmode
>
> then you are.
>
> BTW What's the "standard" resolution of which you speak?
>
>> (Previously my OS of choice
>> was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
>> is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....
>>
>> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
>> a console frame buffer.
>
> I've yet to install a Debian system where the kernel didn't boot into
> a console (VC1) running at anything other than the native/maximum
> resolution. Now, maybe I'm lucky. Maybe I've had good fortune with
> graphics devices, screens and everything else. But I would recommend
> investigating exactly what you've got on booting up before you start
> fiddling. Oh, and if you see your huge screen with a blurry 80x25
> console on it, don't mistake font size for resolution.
>
> Use   dpkg-reconfigure console-setup   to set utf-8, Latin1, the font
> and its size. With a framebuffer you get more choice of size.
> Note: don't ever run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup if X is running,
> whether or not you're using it (eg by typing Ctl-Alt-Fn). It won't
> have the desired effect and it might have you troubleshooting
> problems of your own making.
>
> As for systemctl set-default, no idea, never used it wittingly.
> As for runlevels, well, as Lisi said, Debian doesn't use them in
> the way some distributions do, which can cause confusion.
> 1 is single-user, 2 is normal. Apologies if that simplicity has been
> abandoned in stretch since I last checked.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
edit /etc/default/grub then run grub-mkconfig to apply your changes like 
this:
grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

hth.
>

-- 

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#172489

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2016-09-19 21:50 +0200
Message-ID<sjcJI-1aU-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172330
On Sat 17 Sep 2016 at 02:34:11 (-0400), Jude DaShiell wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote:
> 
> >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:38:31
> >From: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console
> >Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC)
> >Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >
> >I missed this reply until Lisi bumped the thread.
> >These are my opinions, based of the pathetically little I know.
> >
> >On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:52:59 (-0400), Harry Putnam wrote:
> >>The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
> >>
> >>>On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> >>>>ability to startx when I feel like it.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>>The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
> >>>are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
> >>>none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
> >>>prompt, and your configured shell after login.
> >>>
> >>
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>That sounds promissing.
> >
> >It ought to. It's the display managers that start X. If they're not
> >there, you've to start it yourself with startx.
> >
> >>Used one of the methods below and quickly
> >>realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
> >>much higher resolution than the standard.
> >
> >But you got ... what?
> >
> >If you want to know whether you're looking at a nice big framebuffered
> >text console, install fbset and type
> >$ fbset
> >If you see something like:
> >
> >mode "1280x800"
> >   geometry 1280 800 1280 800 32
> >   timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> >   accel true
> >   rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
> >endmode
> >
> >then you are.
> >
> >BTW What's the "standard" resolution of which you speak?
> >
> >>(Previously my OS of choice
> >>was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
> >>is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....
> >>
> >>Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
                                    ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑
> >>a console frame buffer.
> >
[snipped my response which was not grub-related]
> >
> edit /etc/default/grub then run grub-mkconfig to apply your changes
> like this:
> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

That's the "where"; what's the "what" ?

Cheers,
David.

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#172493

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-19 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<sjdmp-1Ik-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172489
On Monday 19 September 2016 21:23:05 Jude DaShiell wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:48:35
> > From: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
> > Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console
> > Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC)
> > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >
> > On Sat 17 Sep 2016 at 02:34:11 (-0400), Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote:
> >>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:38:31
> >>> From: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
> >>> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >>> Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console
> >>> Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >>>
> >>> I missed this reply until Lisi bumped the thread.
> >>> These are my opinions, based of the pathetically little I know.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:52:59 (-0400), Harry Putnam wrote:
> >>>> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
> >>>>> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
> >>>>>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
> >>>>>> ability to startx when I feel like it.
> >>>>
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera;
> >>>>> those are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login
> >>>>> prompt. With none of them present, what you get is the traditional
> >>>>> text-mode login prompt, and your configured shell after login.
> >>>>
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> That sounds promissing.
> >>>
> >>> It ought to. It's the display managers that start X. If they're not
> >>> there, you've to start it yourself with startx.
> >>>
> >>>> Used one of the methods below and quickly
> >>>> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
> >>>> much higher resolution than the standard.
> >>>
> >>> But you got ... what?
> >>>
> >>> If you want to know whether you're looking at a nice big framebuffered
> >>> text console, install fbset and type
> >>> $ fbset
> >>> If you see something like:
> >>>
> >>> mode "1280x800"
> >>>   geometry 1280 800 1280 800 32
> >>>   timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> >>>   accel true
> >>>   rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
> >>> endmode
> >>>
> >>> then you are.
> >>>
> >>> BTW What's the "standard" resolution of which you speak?
> >>>
> >>>> (Previously my OS of choice
> >>>> was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
> >>>> is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....
> >>>>
> >>>> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
> >
> >                                    ?????????????
> >
> >>>> a console frame buffer.
> >
> > [snipped my response which was not grub-related]
> >
> >> edit /etc/default/grub then run grub-mkconfig to apply your changes
> >> like this:
> >> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> >
> > That's the "where"; what's the "what" ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David.
>
> Almost forgot, after doing edit as root run update-grub as root and you
> should be good to go.

That still isn't the "what"!!!

Lisi

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#172495

FromJude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
Date2016-09-19 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<sjdmp-1Ik-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172489
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:48:35
> From: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console
> Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> On Sat 17 Sep 2016 at 02:34:11 (-0400), Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:38:31
>>> From: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
>>> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>> Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console
>>> Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>>
>>> I missed this reply until Lisi bumped the thread.
>>> These are my opinions, based of the pathetically little I know.
>>>
>>> On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 18:52:59 (-0400), Harry Putnam wrote:
>>>> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.   With the
>>>>>> ability to startx when I feel like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; those
>>>>> are the packages which hook in to provide a graphical login prompt. With
>>>>> none of them present, what you get is the traditional text-mode login
>>>>> prompt, and your configured shell after login.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> That sounds promissing.
>>>
>>> It ought to. It's the display managers that start X. If they're not
>>> there, you've to start it yourself with startx.
>>>
>>>> Used one of the methods below and quickly
>>>> realized I was expecting a nice big framebuffered text console with a
>>>> much higher resolution than the standard.
>>>
>>> But you got ... what?
>>>
>>> If you want to know whether you're looking at a nice big framebuffered
>>> text console, install fbset and type
>>> $ fbset
>>> If you see something like:
>>>
>>> mode "1280x800"
>>>   geometry 1280 800 1280 800 32
>>>   timings 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>>>   accel true
>>>   rgba 8/16,8/8,8/0,0/0
>>> endmode
>>>
>>> then you are.
>>>
>>> BTW What's the "standard" resolution of which you speak?
>>>
>>>> (Previously my OS of choice
>>>> was gentoo), But of course all that has to be setup.... as I recall it
>>>> is done with a few extra bits on the kernel line grub.conf....
>>>>
>>>> Using grub2 I'm thoroughly lost what or where one would edit to allow
>                                    ?????????????
>>>> a console frame buffer.
>>>
> [snipped my response which was not grub-related]
>>>
>> edit /etc/default/grub then run grub-mkconfig to apply your changes
>> like this:
>> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
>
> That's the "where"; what's the "what" ?
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
Almost forgot, after doing edit as root run update-grub as root and you 
should be good to go.

>

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#172066

Fromdavidson@freevolt.org
Date2016-09-12 00:00 +0200
Message-ID<sgkX7-32h-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172063
If using systemd, these look relevant:

> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.

  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingthedefaultboottarget

  # ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target

> With the ability to startx when I feel like it.

  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

  # systemctl isolate graphical.target

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#172295

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-16 13:40 +0200
Message-ID<shZER-44g-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172066
On Sunday 11 September 2016 22:54:23 davidson@freevolt.org wrote:
> If using systemd, these look relevant:
> > How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X.
>
>  
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/#changingth
>edefaultboottarget
>
>   # ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target
> /etc/systemd/system/default.target
>
> > With the ability to startx when I feel like it.
>
>  
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>
>   # systemctl isolate graphical.target

Debian does not by default have an available multi-user CLI run level.

Lisi

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