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  FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-07 20:50 +0200
    Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 21:10 +0200
      Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 21:20 +0200
        [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
          Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment  screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
            Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment  screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
              Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment  screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Francesco Ariis <fa-ml@ariis.it> - 2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
      Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2016-09-07 22:30 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 23:00 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 23:10 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:40 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 01:50 +0200
            [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-08 16:40 +0200
              Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 17:00 +0200
                Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-08 17:30 +0200
                  Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-10 20:30 +0200
                    Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 21:20 +0200
                      Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-09-11 01:30 +0200
                    Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 03:00 +0200
                    Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-11 22:30 +0200
                      Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 04:10 +0200
              Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:00 +0200
                Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-09 00:00 +0200
                Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-09 18:40 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-08 00:00 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:40 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0200
    Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
      Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0200

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#172012 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On Sat 10 Sep 2016 at 14:24:47 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Firefox is still busted.

No, it is not. It's your system.

I only post this because some readers will get the impression that
Firefox on Debian is in some way deficient. It isn't. Firefox on a
staightforward Jessie install can be used with confidence to access
PayPal and complete all transactions.

I'd bet it is the same on a normal Wheezy but you are not to prepared to
use Jessie so I'm not going out of my way to test on Wheezy. Let's leave
it at your "solution" point. It works when you do this, that and the
other.  :)

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#172020 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:13:48 +0100 Brian sent:

> On Sat 10 Sep 2016 at 14:24:47 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> > Firefox is still busted.  
> 
> No, it is not. It's your system.
> 
> I only post this because some readers will get the impression that
> Firefox on Debian is in some way deficient. It isn't. Firefox on a
> staightforward Jessie install can be used with confidence to access
> PayPal and complete all transactions.
> 
> I'd bet it is the same on a normal Wheezy but you are not to prepared
> to use Jessie so I'm not going out of my way to test on Wheezy. Let's
> leave it at your "solution" point. It works when you do this, that
> and the other.  :)
> 

	After contemplation, my reply is:

It has 4 bugs in stretch though according to my system? I wonder if my
system is crook as well?

grave bugs of firefox-esr (→ 45.3.0esr-1) <Outstanding>
 b1 - #828159 - firefox-esr: session tabs lost after upgrade from
iceweasel to firefox-esr serious bugs of firefox-esr (→ 45.3.0esr-1)
<Outstanding>

b2 - #827395 - firefox-esr: Firefox-esr privacy invading
defaults load beacons on 1st run 

b3 - #837091 - firefox-esr: EME DRM extention present and enabled
serious bugs of firefox-esr (→ 45.3.0esr-1) <Resolved in some Version>

b4 - #822715 - firefox-esr: FTBFS with GCC 6: 'malloc' was not declared
in this scope (Fixed: firefox-esr/45.3.0esr-2) Summary: firefox-esr(4
bugs)

Looks very buggy to my system and has been for some time.

Be well,
Charlie
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#172023 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:24:47 -0400 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
wrote:

> On Thursday 08 September 2016 11:26:43 Mark Allums wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > > So I've now commented that line back out of /etc/apt/sources.list.
> >
> > Your attempt ran into some requirements that are prerequisites for
> > libnss3.  For instance, dbus needs to be a certain minimum version,
> > and wheezy is too old.  You will have to install another browser (i
> > suggest opera for linux.  google chrome is another option, unless
> > you prefer a free software option.)
> >
> > An alternative is to try upgrading to Jessie, and then trying to
> > install libnss3.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Mark Allums
> 
> I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to 
> chromium, more for S&G than any other reason, as its now quite long
> in the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify
> the pw at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...
> 
> And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the
> mainsleaze news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video
> plays AND stays in lip synch. 
> 
> I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll
> leave it that way for a while. :-)
> 
> Firefox is still busted.

I doubt it.

I've been following along with your problems, and I surmise it's your
system that's the problem.  Although, I have no idea what it might
be.  My Wheezy[1] system works just fine with Chrome even though it's
been unsupport for months, iceweasal (originally installed by
default -- now purged), firefox-release (from the mozilla.debian repo
-- now purged, repo removed), and firefox-esr (from the Debian Security
repo). No problems. Ever.  Not with PayPal or other sites like my
banks or youtube or tv streaming.  All worked just fine, and
exactly the way they should.

Anyway, glad you were able to get things to work to your satisfaction.

B

1. My Wheezy 64-bit is a very custom install.  Started with a
terminal-based system, and added what I wanted one thing at a time.
Never been a desktop GUI/Environment on it along with the related crap.
Just one window manager, Openbox. I even wrote my own udev rules to
auto-mount USB drives and my smartphone.

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#172062 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

> I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to
> chromium, more for S&G than any other reason, as its now quite long in
> the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify the pw
> at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...
>
> And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the mainsleaze
> news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video plays AND
> stays in lip synch.
>
> I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll leave it
> that way for a while. :-)
>
> Firefox is still busted.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>

Agreed.  I believed our problems were related, and I still do.  I have 
run into other problems since I installed libnss3 from sid, problems 
that I haven't had time to relate here on debian-user up to now.  For 
instance, I couldn't verify my email with a certain site using Firefox, 
the site simply said email not verified. (You know, how they send you an 
email, and you click on a link.)  I copied the link address to Google 
Chrome, and it worked, first try.  There are a number of examples like 
this that I won't bother to enumerate, because they are incidental.  The 
problems surfaced with an update to firefox, that's why I blame Firefox. 
  I think now that Gene's problems won't all be cured by installing a 
recent libnss3.  Some people blame the age of Gene's system, but I am 
running stretch, and I have run into the same problems (plural). You can 
blame my problems on my running Testing, but it's funny that both of us 
on two completely different systmes starting having trouble with the 
same update to Firefox/Iceweasel.

MArk Allums

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#172071 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On Sun 11 Sep 2016 at 15:28:03 (-0500), Mark Allums wrote:
> >I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to
> >chromium, more for S&G than any other reason, as its now quite long in
> >the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify the pw
> >at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...
> >
> >And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the mainsleaze
> >news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video plays AND
> >stays in lip synch.
> >
> >I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll leave it
> >that way for a while. :-)
> >
> >Firefox is still busted.
> 
> Agreed.

And yet there are few complaints here. Up to the time of writing, I've
had no problem reaching the sites you mentioned, and no security warnings
(except that I intentionally browse with an old flashplayer configured
so that it doesn't start playing them but asks for confirmation instead).

> I believed our problems were related, and I still do.  I
> have run into other problems since I installed libnss3 from sid,
> problems that I haven't had time to relate here on debian-user up to
> now.  For instance, I couldn't verify my email with a certain site
> using Firefox, the site simply said email not verified. (You know,
> how they send you an email, and you click on a link.)  I copied the
> link address to Google Chrome, and it worked, first try.  There are
> a number of examples like this that I won't bother to enumerate,
> because they are incidental.  The problems surfaced with an update
> to firefox, that's why I blame Firefox.

I thought you just wrote "I have run into other problems since I
installed libnss3 from sid" above and "I blame a crypto update
for this" earlier. I couldn't follow your posts because I read a
lot of statements of blame before I saw any evidence of what your
problems were.

> I think now that Gene's
> problems won't all be cured by installing a recent libnss3.  Some
> people blame the age of Gene's system,

Gene and I both run "wheezy" (though I run jessie too). He has many
problems, often reported here, and some of the fixes he uses are
very un-Debian to say the least. (I wrote "wheezy" because Gene's
system is really only *based on* wheezy.)

> but I am running stretch, and
> I have run into the same problems (plural). You can blame my
> problems on my running Testing, but it's funny that both of us on
> two completely different systmes starting having trouble with the
> same update to Firefox/Iceweasel.

I've still only seen your assertions that they're the same
problems?/symptoms?/messages? (Not even sure which of these applies.)

Hoping things sort themselves out (often happens on testing)...

Cheers,
David.

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#171912 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On Thu 08 Sep 2016 at 09:30:54 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 05:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> >Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to get
> >it from unstable? On wheezy, how?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> 
> Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites
> unavailable with a security-related error message for me.

As you say "My problem is not YouTube, that was just an example."

An example of what? A relationship between a "next" button not working
with PayPal and video viewing? Have we left the world of Flash?

Maybe you could post the URLs of two or three web sites which are now
available to you without security-related error messages which you had
trouble with before. Jessie users would be interested whether they too
have to install libnss3 from unstable.


[Good technical advice snipped].

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#171920 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 19:54:55 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> Maybe you could post the URLs of two or three web sites which are now
> available to you without security-related error messages which you had
> trouble with before. Jessie users would be interested whether they too
> have to install libnss3 from unstable.

It works with jessie as it used to work with stretch before apparently
some update in stretch messed things up.
One "broken" address that was mentioned on debian-user-german is
mail.google.com .

Regards

Michael


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#171946 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

On 09/08/2016 01:54 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 08 Sep 2016 at 09:30:54 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
>
>> On 09/07/2016 05:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to get
>>> it from unstable? On wheezy, how?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>
>>
>> Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites
>> unavailable with a security-related error message for me.
>
> As you say "My problem is not YouTube, that was just an example."
>
> An example of what? A relationship between a "next" button not working
> with PayPal and video viewing? Have we left the world of Flash?
>
> Maybe you could post the URLs of two or three web sites which are now
> available to you without security-related error messages which you had
> trouble with before. Jessie users would be interested whether they too
> have to install libnss3 from unstable.
>
>
> [Good technical advice snipped].
>
>
It's not flash.  YouTube doesn't use Flash by default anymore.

One other example is:

https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/

Mark Allums

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#171865

On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>>>
>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will
>>> allow the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>>>
>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
>>> mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
>>> packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
>>> of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
>>> right.
>>>
>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
>>> behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
>>> of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>
>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or
>> visit many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a
>> crypto update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
>>
>> Mark Allums
>>
> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
> by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report
> that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
>
>
 > for how to get around this.
>
>

Here is my error message:  Is this message Flash-related?


Your connection is not secure

The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security.

www.youtube.com uses security technology that is outdated and vulnerable 
to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information which you thought 
to be safe. The website administrator will need to fix the server first 
before you can visit the site.

Error code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY

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#171869

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:53:08 -0500
Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> wrote:

> Here is my error message:  Is this message Flash-related?
> 
> 
> Your connection is not secure
> 
> The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security.
> 
> www.youtube.com uses security technology that is outdated and vulnerable 
> to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information which you thought 
> to be safe. The website administrator will need to fix the server first 
> before you can visit the site.

Is this related to turning off certain old and insecure SSL/TLS protocols? Those that some web site admins haven't stopped using yet?

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#171873

Hi,

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:53:08 -0500
Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> wrote:

> Here is my error message:  Is this message Flash-related?
> 
> 
> Your connection is not secure
> 
> The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security.
> 
> www.youtube.com uses security technology that is outdated and
> vulnerable to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information which
> you thought to be safe. The website administrator will need to fix the
> server first before you can visit the site.
> 
> Error code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY
> 
> 

This really looks a lot like the issue I mentioned in my earlier post.
(original post from debian-user-german:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2016/09/msg00046.html )
Have you tried the suggestion with libnss3 ?

There was also this bug report mentioned, apparently suggesting that
libnss3 is responsible:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833719#30

Regards

Michael

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#171876

On Wednesday 07 September 2016 17:53:08 Mark Allums wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> > On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> >> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Greetings all;
> >>>
> >>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will
> >>> allow the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> >>>
> >>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
> >>> mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
> >>> packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
> >>> of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
> >>> right.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
> >>> behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
> >>> of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>
> >> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or
> >> visit many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a
> >> crypto update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
> >>
> >> Mark Allums
> >
> > I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
> > by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report
> > that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
> > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-lates
> >t-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
> >
>  > for how to get around this.
>
> Here is my error message:  Is this message Flash-related?
>
>
> Your connection is not secure
>
> The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security.
>
> www.youtube.com uses security technology that is outdated and
> vulnerable to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information
> which you thought to be safe. The website administrator will need to
> fix the server first before you can visit the site.
>
> Error code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY

I am not getting any reported error.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#171882

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:36:27 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:


> > Your connection is not secure
> >
> > The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security.
> >
> > www.youtube.com uses security technology that is outdated and
> > vulnerable to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information
> > which you thought to be safe. The website administrator will need to
> > fix the server first before you can visit the site.
> >
> > Error code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY
> 
> I am not getting any reported error.

Yes, looks like there are two different issues discussed in this thread. I
wouldn't blame Mark for thread-hijacking though (as someone else did),
since at a first glance for me too it looked like these issues might very
well be related.

Regards

Michael

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#171861

Hi,

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 14:39:14 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> Greetings all;
> 
> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> 
> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow 
> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> 
> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode, 
> with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to 
> be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I 
> click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
> 
> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves
> the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.
> After rebooting, it will not login at all.

by chance a couple of days ago I saw on the german debian user list¹ a
topic that seems similar, the conclusion seemed to be to install libnss3
from unstable (iirc this was about firefox and chrome on testing).
Dunno if this has to do with your problem, but might be worth  a try.

Regards

Michael



¹ in case someone can read german:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2016/09/msg00050.html


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#171871

On Wednesday 07 September 2016 16:42:55 Michael Lange wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 14:39:14 -0400
>
> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> >
> > Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
> > the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> >
> > I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
> > mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet
> > seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the
> > recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
> >
> > FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves
> > the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the
> > time. After rebooting, it will not login at all.
>
> by chance a couple of days ago I saw on the german debian user list¹ a
> topic that seems similar, the conclusion seemed to be to install
> libnss3 from unstable (iirc this was about firefox and chrome on
> testing). Dunno if this has to do with your problem, but might be
> worth  a try.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
I'm on wheezy yet, stuck with LinuxCNC.  How would I go about that on a 
100% uptodate wheezy?
>
Thanks.
>
> ¹ in case someone can read german:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2016/09/msg00050.html
>
>
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>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:18:15 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> > by chance a couple of days ago I saw on the german debian user list¹ a
> > topic that seems similar, the conclusion seemed to be to install
> > libnss3 from unstable (iirc this was about firefox and chrome on
> > testing). Dunno if this has to do with your problem, but might be
> > worth  a try.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> I'm on wheezy yet, stuck with LinuxCNC.  How would I go about that on a 
> 100% uptodate wheezy?

If it's still wheezy, I don't think trying packages from unstable is a
good idea. Not sure what to do, maybe you could try to find which
packages have been updated recently (cannot be too many, I guess). Maybe
then try to reinstall the old versions again to find out which is the
culprit. Then try to replace it with the jessie version.
Sorry, not an awesome concept, but since your problem apparently differs
from the one I read on the german list im kind of stuck here.

Regards

Michael

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