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Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

Started byJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
First post2016-09-01 18:00 +0200
Last post2016-09-19 23:10 +0200
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  Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 18:00 +0200
    Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-09-01 18:10 +0200
      Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-01 18:50 +0200
        Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2016-09-02 00:00 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 04:30 +0200
        Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 04:30 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-02 09:00 +0200
            Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:30 +0200
              Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-05 09:20 +0200
      Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 04:20 +0200
        Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-09-02 10:10 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 05:50 +0200
            Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-09-05 10:40 +0200
            Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-09-05 22:50 +0200
            Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 03:30 +0200
              Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-06 09:20 +0200
              Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-09-06 13:20 +0200
                Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 05:10 +0200
                  Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 06:10 +0200
                Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:00 +0200
                  Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-09-08 09:40 +0200
              Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 20:40 +0200
                Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 02:30 +0200
    Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 22:20 +0200
      Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:00 +0200
        Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-15 19:00 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0200
            Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-18 09:50 +0200
        Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:40 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 01:20 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 07:10 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 22:40 +0200
      Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 20:20 +0200
        Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-19 20:40 +0200
          Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 22:00 +0200
            Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-09-19 23:10 +0200

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#171889

FromBrad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date2016-09-08 09:40 +0200
Message-ID<sf26e-2On-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171888

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On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 23:58:56 -0700
Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Jimmy,

>okay.  It looks like "gtk-3" is the culprit.  When the other 4 systems 

Indeed.  I've upgraded everything other than those myself.  Again,
without ill effect.

Just have to keep a weather eye out for upgraded, bugfixed (natch),
versions arriving in testing.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I'll tell you something, I think that you should know
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#171818

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-06 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<setrP-5CI-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171810
On 09/05/2016 06:23 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:

> Do you fellas have 'apt-listbugs' installed? Don't know if it would have
> helped in this case, but running SID one should have that package
> installed. Lets you know before hand if bugs have been filed - of course
> if none have, it's still buyer beware on SID. Hope you all filed bug
> reports. ;-D
>
> I'm on testing, so have nothing to report in terms of the issues in this
> thread.

Stephen, apt-listbugs is not helping me, what I need is a tool that will 
list bugs after they've been installed. :)

-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.7.4 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda12
Registered Linux User #380263

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#171830

Fromkamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-07 02:30 +0200
Message-ID<seyUx-RQ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171818
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/05/2016 06:23 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
>> Do you fellas have 'apt-listbugs' installed? Don't know if it would have
>> helped in this case, but running SID one should have that package
>> installed. Lets you know before hand if bugs have been filed - of course
>> if none have, it's still buyer beware on SID. Hope you all filed bug
>> reports. ;-D
>>
>> I'm on testing, so have nothing to report in terms of the issues in this
>> thread.
>
>
> Stephen, apt-listbugs is not helping me, what I need is a tool that will
> list bugs after they've been installed. :)
>
>

May be try something like this

% rc-alert synaptic
Package: src:synaptic
Bug:     831268
Title:   synaptic: FTBFS: cacheset.h:718:15: error: 'make_unsigned' in
namespace 'std' does not name a template type
Flags:   [        ] (none)
Dists:   [TU] (testing, unstable)

Package: synaptic
Bug:     797271
Title:   Synaptic false positive, does not launch
Flags:   [        ] (none)
Dists:   [T] (testing)

Package: synaptic
Bug:     811857
Title:   synaptic: FTBFS with GCC 6: no matching function for call to
Flags:   [        ] (none)
Dists:   [TU] (testing, unstable)

hope that helps
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

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#172175 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-14 22:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<shoOZ-5xq-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171672
On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right
> click and Search is affected too.

Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the 
effected packages. Yay!

These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0, 
libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using 
testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the 
effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.7.4 - AMD 64 - EXT4 at sda11
Registered Linux User #380263

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#172201 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromRic Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-15 10:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<shzKp-4a4-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172175
On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right
>> click and Search is affected too.
>
> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
> effected packages. Yay!
>
> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the
> effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed.

Rats, that didn't work for me. I am running sid. Something upgraded and 
XFCE no longer starts up after boot. I have to open a terminal and enter 
startx. Using synaptic I could just start re-installing XFCE packages. 
But, it be broken where the drop down menu's and right click no longer 
function. Drats. Ric

-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#172245 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-09-15 19:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<shIaZ-16y-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172201
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 03:50:21 -0400
Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:  
> >> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or
> >> right click and Search is affected too.  
> >
> > Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
> > effected packages. Yay!
> >
> > These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
> > libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
> > testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade
> > the effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it
> > is fixed.  
> 
> Rats, that didn't work for me. I am running sid. Something upgraded
> and XFCE no longer starts up after boot. I have to open a terminal
> and enter startx. Using synaptic I could just start re-installing
> XFCE packages. But, it be broken where the drop down menu's and right
> click no longer function. Drats. Ric
> 

Synaptic still broken on Sid for me, fully upgraded except for a few
packages which won't.

-- 
Joe

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#172366 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 00:50 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<siwAN-8pC-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172245
On 09/15/2016 09:58 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 03:50:21 -0400
> Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>> On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>>> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or
>>>> right click and Search is affected too.
>>>
>>> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
>>> effected packages. Yay!
>>>
>>> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
>>> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
>>> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade
>>> the effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it
>>> is fixed.
>>
>> Rats, that didn't work for me. I am running sid. Something upgraded
>> and XFCE no longer starts up after boot. I have to open a terminal
>> and enter startx. Using synaptic I could just start re-installing
>> XFCE packages. But, it be broken where the drop down menu's and right
>> click no longer function. Drats. Ric
>>
>
> Synaptic still broken on Sid for me, fully upgraded except for a few
> packages which won't.

Hi Joe, why not use both testing and sid repos and get a full upgrade, 
both my Sid systems are full upgraded with me using both repos.  Good luck!
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.7.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

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#172381 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-09-18 09:50 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<siF1n-5f1-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172366
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:41:30 -0700
Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 09/15/2016 09:58 AM, Joe wrote:

> >>  
> >
> > Synaptic still broken on Sid for me, fully upgraded except for a few
> > packages which won't.  
> 
> Hi Joe, why not use both testing and sid repos and get a full
> upgrade, both my Sid systems are full upgraded with me using both
> repos.  Good luck!

On my desktop sid/xfce4 machine, I do a full upgrade pretty much every
day, apart from any buggy or uninstallable packages, of which I
currently have five.

I don't actually use Synaptic much, generally for poking around when a
lot of packages won't upgrade, to find the ones which will. It runs for
a few mouse actions, then dies and needs a kill -9 to remove the
process. Sometimes it will run long enough to do an upgrade, which
works fine. Aptitude and apt-get are both working reliably.

I also usually have trouble booting from the current 4.7 kernel, so I'm
mostly using 4.6. Whether the problems are related, I don't know. I
can't find any smoking guns anywhere. I'm not aware of any other
software which isn't working. I run PCB with the GTK interface, which
is a fairly complex and demanding beast, and it doesn't seem to have any
trouble.

I've reported the Synaptic problem, which is fairly repeatable, but not
the kernel one as I get wildly differing screen messages at the time of
the crash, which suggests the fundamental fault isn't related to any of
them. I can find no clues at all about that.

-- 
Joe

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#172364 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 00:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<siwr7-8mi-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172201
On 09/15/2016 12:50 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

>> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
>> effected packages. Yay!
>>
>> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
>> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
>> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the
>> effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed.
>
> Rats, that didn't work for me. I am running sid. Something upgraded and
> XFCE no longer starts up after boot. I have to open a terminal and enter
> startx. Using synaptic I could just start re-installing XFCE packages.
> But, it be broken where the drop down menu's and right click no longer
> function. Drats. Ric

I was wondering if XFCE4 was infected.  Sorry to hear you're sill having 
a problem.  I'm still good, both synaptic and parole are working okay on 
Sid and Testing with the plasma 5 desktop.  I noticed upstream is 
letting more bugs into the mix, but don't seem to be effecting me, maybe 
like Jessie the next release will not be ready, but will be released 
anyways, with missing packages and excuses. A fixed release cycle sucks, 
where not getting some bugs fixed, just a new system every 2 years and 
it seems to have started with Wheezy, when Debian decided not to fix 
Wheezy's login and instead gave us Systemd instead and a whole lot more 
new bugs.  I'm using Parole cause Kaffeine is pulling in VLC, why it's 
pulling in VLC I don't know and it don't make since to me having two 
media players to get the one I want, but Parole uses a lot less packages 
to work, so I'm okay with that.  I may do a XFCE4 install on sda24 to 
see what's going on, I'll start with a Jessie net-install and then 
upgrade the base system to Sid/testing.  Thanks for the update.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.7.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

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#172368 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 01:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<six3Q-mU-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172364
On Saturday 17 September 2016 23:37:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> A fixed release cycle sucks,
> where not getting some bugs fixed, just a new system every 2 years and
> it seems to have started with Wheezy

Just one of the attempts to please the Ubuntu crowd. :-((

Lisi

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#172378 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 07:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<siCwx-3QF-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172364
On 09/17/2016 03:37 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/15/2016 12:50 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
>>> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
>>> effected packages. Yay!
>>>
>>> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
>>> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
>>> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the
>>> effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed.
>>
>> Rats, that didn't work for me. I am running sid. Something upgraded and
>> XFCE no longer starts up after boot. I have to open a terminal and enter
>> startx. Using synaptic I could just start re-installing XFCE packages.
>> But, it be broken where the drop down menu's and right click no longer
>> function. Drats. Ric
>
> I was wondering if XFCE4 was infected.  Sorry to hear you're sill having
> a problem.  I'm still good, both synaptic and parole are working okay on
> Sid and Testing with the plasma 5 desktop.  I noticed upstream is
> letting more bugs into the mix, but don't seem to be effecting me, maybe
> like Jessie the next release will not be ready, but will be released
> anyways, with missing packages and excuses. A fixed release cycle sucks,
> where not getting some bugs fixed, just a new system every 2 years and
> it seems to have started with Wheezy, when Debian decided not to fix
> Wheezy's login and instead gave us Systemd instead and a whole lot more
> new bugs.  I'm using Parole cause Kaffeine is pulling in VLC, why it's
> pulling in VLC I don't know and it don't make since to me having two
> media players to get the one I want, but Parole uses a lot less packages
> to work, so I'm okay with that.  I may do a XFCE4 install on sda24 to
> see what's going on, I'll start with a Jessie net-install and then
> upgrade the base system to Sid/testing.  Thanks for the update.

Here's an update, completely remove package 'gtk3-engines-xfce' and see 
how Synaptic behaves.  I had to use the console to start Synaptic, 
haven't checked that out yet, but after installing 'gtk3-engines-xfce' 
Synaptic went south, purging gtk3-engines-xfce and synaptic was okay 
again.  Hope that helps.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - XFCE4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda24
Registered Linux User #380263

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#172497 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromRic Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-19 22:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<sjdw6-1LI-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172364
On 09/17/2016 06:37 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/15/2016 12:50 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
>>> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
>>> effected packages. Yay!
>>>
>>> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
>>> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
>>> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the
>>> effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed.
>>
>> Rats, that didn't work for me. I am running sid. Something upgraded and
>> XFCE no longer starts up after boot. I have to open a terminal and enter
>> startx. Using synaptic I could just start re-installing XFCE packages.
>> But, it be broken where the drop down menu's and right click no longer
>> function. Drats. Ric
>
> I was wondering if XFCE4 was infected.  Sorry to hear you're sill having
> a problem.I can't take the pain any longer. Going for a full re-install. Ric


-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#172480 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-19 20:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <Solved>
Message-ID<sjbkB-rF-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172175
On 09/14/2016 01:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right
>> click and Search is affected too.
>
> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
> effected packages. Yay!
>
> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the
> effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed.

If you decide to upgrade those 4 packages to Sid, select all 4 packages 
first and it will NOT pull in any extra packages and Synaptic will be 
fixed in KDE Plasma.

In XFCE4 for sure "and possibly Gnome too" do above plus if you have 
'gtk3-engines-xfce' installed remove it it's not needed in XFCE and 
Synaptic will be fixed. There's no reason for you to have a broken Synaptic.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - XFCE4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda24
Registered Linux User #380263

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#172484 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me>

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-09-19 20:40 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me>
Message-ID<sjbDY-y8-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172480
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:10:21 -0700
Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 09/14/2016 01:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:  
> >> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or
> >> right click and Search is affected too.  
> >
> > Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
> > effected packages. Yay!
> >
> > These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
> > libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
> > testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade
> > the effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it
> > is fixed.  

I have the latest of these, 3.21.6-1 in sid, upgraded today as usual.
> 
> If you decide to upgrade those 4 packages to Sid, select all 4
> packages first and it will NOT pull in any extra packages and
> Synaptic will be fixed in KDE Plasma.
> 
> In XFCE4 for sure "and possibly Gnome too" do above plus if you have 
> 'gtk3-engines-xfce' installed remove it it's not needed in XFCE and 
> Synaptic will be fixed. There's no reason for you to have a broken
> Synaptic.

I have no gtk3-engines- installed.

I still have a quickly dying Synaptic. I've just noticed that
gnome-terminal is filling the kernel log with masses of:

'<something> <somenumber> is drawn without a current allocation. This
should not happen.'

This seems to have been ongoing for a couple of months, and GTK3 is
strongly incriminated, RedHat being also affected, various reports
involving emacs and other GTK3 users. The death of my Synaptic produces
no log entries.

-- 
Joe

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#172491 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me>

FromJimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-19 22:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me>
Message-ID<sjcTp-1ej-61@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172484
On 09/19/2016 11:36 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:10:21 -0700
> Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/14/2016 01:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>> On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>>> The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or
>>>> right click and Search is affected too.
>>>
>>> Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the
>>> effected packages. Yay!
>>>
>>> These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
>>> libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using
>>> testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade
>>> the effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it
>>> is fixed.
>
> I have the latest of these, 3.21.6-1 in sid, upgraded today as usual.
>>
>> If you decide to upgrade those 4 packages to Sid, select all 4
>> packages first and it will NOT pull in any extra packages and
>> Synaptic will be fixed in KDE Plasma.
>>
>> In XFCE4 for sure "and possibly Gnome too" do above plus if you have
>> 'gtk3-engines-xfce' installed remove it it's not needed in XFCE and
>> Synaptic will be fixed. There's no reason for you to have a broken
>> Synaptic.
>
> I have no gtk3-engines- installed.
>
> I still have a quickly dying Synaptic. I've just noticed that
> gnome-terminal is filling the kernel log with masses of:
>
> '<something> <somenumber> is drawn without a current allocation. This
> should not happen.'
>
> This seems to have been ongoing for a couple of months, and GTK3 is
> strongly incriminated, RedHat being also affected, various reports
> involving emacs and other GTK3 users. The death of my Synaptic produces
> no log entries.

Do you have package 'upgrade-system' installed? And or do you use 
deborphan?  Do you use both testing and sid repos? I do not have your 
problem on "6" testing/sid installs. Good luck.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - XFCE4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda24
Registered Linux User #380263

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#172502 — Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me>

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-09-19 23:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again. <not><Solved><for><me>
Message-ID<sjdZ8-2dG-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172491
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:55:32 -0700
Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> wrote:


> 
> Do you have package 'upgrade-system' installed? And or do you use 
> deborphan?  Do you use both testing and sid repos? I do not have your 
> problem on "6" testing/sid installs. Good luck.

Thanks. No I didn't know about upgrade-system. It's an old
installation, it's quite a while since I had a problem bad enough to
need reinstallation. Even so, the amount of cruft found was impressive,
more than 900 packages.

Unfortunately, it didn't fix any of my problems. But I don't use
Synaptic much, I know to boot into 4.6.0.1 not 4.7.0.1, and if I don't
look at the logs I don't see all the gtk3 error messages.... this *is*
sid, after all.

-- 
Joe

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