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FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

Started byGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
First post2016-09-07 20:50 +0200
Last post2016-09-08 02:00 +0200
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  FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-07 20:50 +0200
    Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 21:10 +0200
      Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 21:20 +0200
        [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
          Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment  screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
            Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment  screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
              Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment  screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Francesco Ariis <fa-ml@ariis.it> - 2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
      Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> - 2016-09-07 22:30 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 23:00 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-07 23:10 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:40 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 01:50 +0200
            [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-08 16:40 +0200
              Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 17:00 +0200
                Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-08 17:30 +0200
                  Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-10 20:30 +0200
                    Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 21:20 +0200
                      Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-09-11 01:30 +0200
                    Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 03:00 +0200
                    Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-11 22:30 +0200
                      Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 04:10 +0200
              Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 21:00 +0200
                Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-09 00:00 +0200
                Re: [resolved] FireFox broken, Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-09 18:40 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Mark Allums <mark@allums.email> - 2016-09-08 00:00 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
          Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:40 +0200
            Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0200
    Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
      Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
        Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen. Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0200

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#171856 — FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-09-07 20:50 +0200
SubjectFireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.
Message-ID<seQ53-3st-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow 
the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode, 
with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to 
be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I 
click on the Next button adjacent to the right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the 
same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After 
rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#171857

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-09-07 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<seQop-3PG-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171856
On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>
> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>
> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
> with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
> be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
> click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
>
> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the
> same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After
> rebooting, it will not login at all.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit many 
common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto update 
for this, as well as a Firefox update.

Mark Allums

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#171858

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-09-07 21:20 +0200
Message-ID<seQy6-3SW-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171857
On Wed 07 Sep 2016 at 14:03:48 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >Greetings all;
> >
> >Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> >
> >Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
> >the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> >
> >I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
> >with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
> >be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
> >click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
> >
> >FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the
> >same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After
> >rebooting, it will not login at all.
> >
> >Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit many
> common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto update for
> this, as well as a Firefox update.

My firefox isn't broken.

How a paypay problem relates to a YouTube problem is beyond me.

Perhaps the two of you should get together off-list, sort it out and
present your conclusions here. Somebody would benefit from the silence.

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#171860 — [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

FromMichael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de>
Date2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
Subject[OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.
Message-ID<seRXc-4GF-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171858
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 20:18:58 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:


> My firefox isn't broken.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the OP's isn't broken though.

> 
> How a paypay problem relates to a YouTube problem is beyond me.
> 
> Perhaps the two of you should get together off-list, sort it out and
> present your conclusions here.

Do you think because your firefox works you're free to ban them from the
list?

> Somebody would benefit from the silence.

Applies to your post as well.

SCNR
Michael

.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

Knowledge, sir, should be free to all!
		-- Harry Mudd, "I, Mudd", stardate 4513.3

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#171868 — Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.
Message-ID<seTcC-5MW-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171860
On Wed 07 Sep 2016 at 22:38:39 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 20:18:58 +0100
> Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> > My firefox isn't broken.
> 
> That doesn't necessarily mean that the OP's isn't broken though.

All happy Firefox users are alike; every unhappy Firefox user is unhappy
in his own way.

(Apologies to Leo Tolstoy).

> > How a paypay problem relates to a YouTube problem is beyond me.
> > 
> > Perhaps the two of you should get together off-list, sort it out and
> > present your conclusions here.
> 
> Do you think because your firefox works you're free to ban them from the
> list?

Don't be silly.
 
> > Somebody would benefit from the silence.
> 
> Applies to your post as well.

No, it needed to be said.

Two users. Both using entirely different systems. Both with entirely
different issues. Do you think this is realistically going anywhere?
Especially as the second post in this thread doesn't even come close
to answering what is raised in the first one. Some would say it is
thread hijacking par excellance.

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#171870 — Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

FromMichael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de>
Date2016-09-08 00:20 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.
Message-ID<seTmi-5SM-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171868
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 23:01:43 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> Two users. Both using entirely different systems. Both with entirely
> different issues. Do you think this is realistically going anywhere?
> Especially as the second post in this thread doesn't even come close
> to answering what is raised in the first one. Some would say it is
> thread hijacking par excellance.

Even if you think so, then this is certainly not the OP's fault.

Regards

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

No more blah, blah, blah!
		-- Kirk, "Miri", stardate 2713.6

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#171874 — Re: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT]Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.
Message-ID<seTvY-5VT-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171870
On Thu 08 Sep 2016 at 00:11:30 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 23:01:43 +0100
> Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Two users. Both using entirely different systems. Both with entirely
> > different issues. Do you think this is realistically going anywhere?
> > Especially as the second post in this thread doesn't even come close
> > to answering what is raised in the first one. Some would say it is
> > thread hijacking par excellance.
> 
> Even if you think so, then this is certainly not the OP's fault.

Indeed, no. He wasn't expecting to be regaled with an account of a
completely different and unrelated experience.

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#171866

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
Message-ID<seTcC-5MW-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171858
On Wed 07 Sep 2016 at 23:54:33 +0200, Francesco Ariis wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:18:58PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > Perhaps the two of you should get together off-list, sort it out and
> > present your conclusions here. Somebody would benefit from the silence.
> 
> If you can't / don't want to handle users and their problem, try
> this:
> 
>     <mailto:debian-user-request@lists.debian.org?subject=unsubscribe>
> 
> (and/or keep your fingers off the keyboard).


Tried it. The mail back said:

  Request denied. Couldn't do without you.

Have I misunderstood the command you gave?

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#171867

FromFrancesco Ariis <fa-ml@ariis.it>
Date2016-09-08 00:10 +0200
Message-ID<seTcC-5MW-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171858
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:18:58PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> Perhaps the two of you should get together off-list, sort it out and
> present your conclusions here. Somebody would benefit from the silence.

If you can't / don't want to handle users and their problem, try
this:

    <mailto:debian-user-request@lists.debian.org?subject=unsubscribe>

(and/or keep your fingers off the keyboard).

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#171859

FromGary Dale <garydale@torfree.net>
Date2016-09-07 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<seRDQ-4Ag-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171857
On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>>
>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
>> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>>
>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
>> with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
>> be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
>> click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
>>
>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the
>> same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After
>> rebooting, it will not login at all.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>
> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit 
> many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto 
> update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
>
> Mark Allums
>
I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by 
default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that 
your browser doesn't have one.  Read 
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html 
for how to get around this.

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#171862

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-09-07 22:50 +0200
Message-ID<seRXc-4GF-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171859
On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>>>
>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
>>> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>>>
>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
>>> with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
>>> be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
>>> click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
>>>
>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the
>>> same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After
>>> rebooting, it will not login at all.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>
>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
>> many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
>> update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
>>
>> Mark Allums
>>
> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by
> default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that
> your browser doesn't have one.  Read
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
> for how to get around this.
>
>
No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is not 
YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling me that 
the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating crypto 
packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is insecure, hence 
the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could be a crypto 
problem, too.

Mark Allums

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#171863

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-09-07 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<seS6R-4JP-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171862
On 09/07/2016 03:43 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>
>>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
>>>> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>>>>
>>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
>>>> with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
>>>> be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
>>>> click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves
>>>> the
>>>> same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.
>>>> After
>>>> rebooting, it will not login at all.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>>
>>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
>>> many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
>>> update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
>>>
>>> Mark Allums
>>>
>> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by
>> default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that
>> your browser doesn't have one.  Read
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
>>
>> for how to get around this.
>>
>>
> No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is not
> YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling me that
> the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating crypto
> packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is insecure, hence
> the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could be a crypto
> problem, too.
>
> Mark Allums
>
>
Replying to my own post...

No, you're right, part of the problem is that they set the kill bits for 
older versions of Flash, and Linux Flash is ancient.  The good news is, 
Adobe has relented and announced an up-to-date version of Flash for 
Linux (probably due to unfixable security issues).  The bad news is, 
it's not out yet, and I haven't seen the timetable for release.  There's 
a beta...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2469886/adobe-flash-goes-crawling-back-to-linux-for-some-security

Mark Allums

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#171864

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-09-07 23:10 +0200
Message-ID<seSgy-598-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171863
On 09/07/2016 03:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 09/07/2016 03:43 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>> On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>>>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>>
>>>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
>>>>> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
>>>>> with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet
>>>>> seems to
>>>>> be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
>>>>> click on the Next button adjacent to the right.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves
>>>>> the
>>>>> same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.
>>>>> After
>>>>> rebooting, it will not login at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>>>
>>>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
>>>> many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
>>>> update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Allums
>>>>
>>> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by
>>> default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that
>>> your browser doesn't have one.  Read
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
>>>
>>>
>>> for how to get around this.
>>>
>>>
>> No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is not
>> YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling me that
>> the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating crypto
>> packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is insecure, hence
>> the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could be a crypto
>> problem, too.
>>
>> Mark Allums
>>
>>
> Replying to my own post...
>
> No, you're right, part of the problem is that they set the kill bits for
> older versions of Flash, and Linux Flash is ancient.  The good news is,
> Adobe has relented and announced an up-to-date version of Flash for
> Linux (probably due to unfixable security issues).  The bad news is,
> it's not out yet, and I haven't seen the timetable for release.  There's
> a beta...
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2469886/adobe-flash-goes-crawling-back-to-linux-for-some-security
>
>
> Mark Allums
>
>
>
>
>
https://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2016/08/beta-news-flash-player-npapi-for-linux.html

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#171875

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-09-08 00:40 +0200
Message-ID<seTFF-609-85@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171863
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 16:58:24 Mark Allums wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 03:43 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> > On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> >> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> >>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>> Greetings all;
> >>>>
> >>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will
> >>>> allow the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
> >>>> mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
> >>>> packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
> >>>> of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
> >>>> right.
> >>>>
> >>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
> >>>> behaves the
> >>>> same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.
> >>>> After
> >>>> rebooting, it will not login at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>>
> >>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or
> >>> visit many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a
> >>> crypto update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
> >>>
> >>> Mark Allums
> >>
> >> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
> >> by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to
> >> report that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
> >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-late
> >>st-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.ht
> >>ml
> >>
> >> for how to get around this.
> >
> > No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is
> > not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling
> > me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating
> > crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is
> > insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could
> > be a crypto problem, too.
> >
> > Mark Allums
>
> Replying to my own post...
>
> No, you're right, part of the problem is that they set the kill bits
> for older versions of Flash, and Linux Flash is ancient.  The good
> news is, Adobe has relented and announced an up-to-date version of
> Flash for Linux (probably due to unfixable security issues).  The bad
> news is, it's not out yet, and I haven't seen the timetable for
> release.  There's a beta...
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2469886/adobe-flash-goes-craw
>ling-back-to-linux-for-some-security
>
> Mark Allums

Got it, not placed to run yet, but I got it.

Thanks, this page actually had the correct link.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#171872

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-09-08 00:30 +0200
Message-ID<seTvX-5VT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171862
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 16:43:40 Mark Allums wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> > On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> >> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Greetings all;
> >>>
> >>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
> >>> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> >>>
> >>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
> >>> mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
> >>> packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
> >>> of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
> >>> right.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
> >>> behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
> >>> of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>
> >> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
> >> many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
> >> update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
> >>
> >> Mark Allums
> >
> > I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
> > by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report
> > that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
> > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-lates
> >t-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
> > for how to get around this.

In case everybody missed it, adobe is back to supporting linux, and that 
notice included a link, but when I clicked on the link, it offered me 
the 4 year old flash.  Since some movies do play, I declined. ISTR the 
notice was on /. a day or so back.

> No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is
> not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling
> me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating
> crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is
> insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could
> be a crypto problem, too.
>
> Mark Allums

Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to get 
it from unstable? On wheezy, how?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#171881

FromMichael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de>
Date2016-09-08 01:50 +0200
Message-ID<seULo-6B3-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171872
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:23:22 -0400
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to
> get it from unstable? On wheezy, how?

I wasn't aware that you're still with wheezy, I think the issue on the
german list referred to stretch.

Regards

Michael


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#171901 — [resolved] FireFox broken,

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-09-08 16:40 +0200
Subject[resolved] FireFox broken,
Message-ID<sf8EF-6YA-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171872
On 09/07/2016 05:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 September 2016 16:43:40 Mark Allums wrote:
>
>> On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>>>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>>
>>>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
>>>>> the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
>>>>> mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
>>>>> packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
>>>>> of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
>>>>> right.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
>>>>> behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
>>>>> of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>>>
>>>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
>>>> many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
>>>> update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Allums
>>>
>>> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
>>> by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report
>>> that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-lates
>>> t-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
>>> for how to get around this.
>
> In case everybody missed it, adobe is back to supporting linux, and that
> notice included a link, but when I clicked on the link, it offered me
> the 4 year old flash.  Since some movies do play, I declined. ISTR the
> notice was on /. a day or so back.
>
>> No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is
>> not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling
>> me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating
>> crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is
>> insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could
>> be a crypto problem, too.
>>
>> Mark Allums
>
> Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to get
> it from unstable? On wheezy, how?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>

Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites 
unavailable with a security-related error message for me.

Enable Jessie, stretch, and/or Sid on your system by putting the 
appropriate line in your /etc/apt/sources.list, such as:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib

and do apt-get update

(Remove the line -- or comment it out -- after you are satisfied you are 
done.  Otherwise, all your updates will come from Sid--probably not what 
you want.)

Mark Allums

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#171902 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-09-08 17:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [resolved] FireFox broken,
Message-ID<sf8Y1-75b-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171901
On Thursday 08 September 2016 10:30:54 Mark Allums wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 05:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 September 2016 16:43:40 Mark Allums wrote:
> >> On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> >>> On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> >>>> On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>> Greetings all;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will
> >>>>> allow the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
> >>>>> mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
> >>>>> packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal
> >>>>> address of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to
> >>>>> the right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
> >>>>> behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
> >>>>> of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>>>
> >>>> Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or
> >>>> visit many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame
> >>>> a crypto update for this, as well as a Firefox update.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Allums
> >>>
> >>> I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
> >>> by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to
> >>> report that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
> >>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-lat
> >>>es
> >>> t-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.h
> >>>tml for how to get around this.
> >
> > In case everybody missed it, adobe is back to supporting linux, and
> > that notice included a link, but when I clicked on the link, it
> > offered me the 4 year old flash.  Since some movies do play, I
> > declined. ISTR the notice was on /. a day or so back.
> >
> >> No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem
> >> is not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages
> >> telling me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after
> >> updating crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube
> >> is insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal
> >> could be a crypto problem, too.
> >>
> >> Mark Allums
> >
> > Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to
> > get it from unstable? On wheezy, how?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites
> unavailable with a security-related error message for me.
>
> Enable Jessie, stretch, and/or Sid on your system by putting the
> appropriate line in your /etc/apt/sources.list, such as:
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
>
> and do apt-get update
>
> (Remove the line -- or comment it out -- after you are satisfied you
> are done.  Otherwise, all your updates will come from Sid--probably
> not what you want.)
>
> Mark Allums

That doesn't float unforch:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libdbus-1-3 : Breaks: dbus (< 1.9.16-1~) but 1.6.8-1+deb7u6 is to be 
installed
 libfontconfig1 : Breaks: xpdf (<= 3.03-11) but 3.03-10 is to be 
installed
 libglib2.0-0 : Breaks: glib-networking (< 2.33.12) but 2.32.3-1 is to be 
installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be 
caused by held packages.

So I've now commented that line back out of /etc/apt/sources.list.

Thank you for trying to help, Mark

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#171903 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

FromMark Allums <mark@allums.email>
Date2016-09-08 17:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [resolved] FireFox broken,
Message-ID<sf9r3-7uz-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171902
>>>
>>>> No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem
>>>> is not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages
>>>> telling me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after
>>>> updating crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube
>>>> is insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal
>>>> could be a crypto problem, too.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Allums
>>>
>>> Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to
>>> get it from unstable? On wheezy, how?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>
>> Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites
>> unavailable with a security-related error message for me.
>>
>> Enable Jessie, stretch, and/or Sid on your system by putting the
>> appropriate line in your /etc/apt/sources.list, such as:
>>
>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
>>
>> and do apt-get update
>>
>> (Remove the line -- or comment it out -- after you are satisfied you
>> are done.  Otherwise, all your updates will come from Sid--probably
>> not what you want.)
>>
>> Mark Allums
>
> That doesn't float unforch:
>
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  libdbus-1-3 : Breaks: dbus (< 1.9.16-1~) but 1.6.8-1+deb7u6 is to be
> installed
>  libfontconfig1 : Breaks: xpdf (<= 3.03-11) but 3.03-10 is to be
> installed
>  libglib2.0-0 : Breaks: glib-networking (< 2.33.12) but 2.32.3-1 is to be
> installed
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
> caused by held packages.
>
> So I've now commented that line back out of /etc/apt/sources.list.

Your attempt ran into some requirements that are prerequisites for 
libnss3.  For instance, dbus needs to be a certain minimum version, and 
wheezy is too old.  You will have to install another browser (i suggest 
opera for linux.  google chrome is another option, unless you prefer a 
free software option.)

An alternative is to try upgrading to Jessie, and then trying to install 
libnss3.

Good luck

Mark Allums

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#172008 — Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-09-10 20:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [resolved] FireFox broken,
Message-ID<sfVcl-3Jf-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171903
On Thursday 08 September 2016 11:26:43 Mark Allums wrote:

[...]
> > So I've now commented that line back out of /etc/apt/sources.list.
>
> Your attempt ran into some requirements that are prerequisites for
> libnss3.  For instance, dbus needs to be a certain minimum version,
> and wheezy is too old.  You will have to install another browser (i
> suggest opera for linux.  google chrome is another option, unless you
> prefer a free software option.)
>
> An alternative is to try upgrading to Jessie, and then trying to
> install libnss3.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mark Allums

I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to 
chromium, more for S&G than any other reason, as its now quite long in 
the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify the pw 
at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...

And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the mainsleaze 
news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video plays AND 
stays in lip synch. 

I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll leave it 
that way for a while. :-)

Firefox is still busted.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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