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  mount MTP phone Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 03:20 +0200
    Re: mount MTP phone Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-09-05 03:30 +0200
      Re: mount MTP phone Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-09-05 03:40 +0200
        Re: mount MTP phone Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 03:50 +0200
          Re: mount MTP phone Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-09-05 04:10 +0200
          Re: mount MTP phone "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2016-09-05 04:20 +0200
            Re: mount MTP phone Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 05:00 +0200
              Re: mount MTP phone Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 17:20 +0200
      Re: mount MTP phone Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 03:40 +0200
        Re: mount MTP phone Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-09-05 04:10 +0200
          Re: mount MTP phone Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 05:00 +0200
          Re: mount MTP phone Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 05:10 +0200
            Re: mount MTP phone "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu> - 2016-09-05 06:00 +0200
              Re: mount MTP phone Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2016-09-05 16:00 +0200
            Re: mount MTP phone Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-09-05 06:00 +0200
        Re: mount MTP phone Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-09-06 21:20 +0200
          Re: mount MTP phone Frédéric Marchal <frederic.marchal@wowtechnology.com> - 2016-09-07 08:10 +0200
    Re: mount MTP phone Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-05 13:10 +0200
      Re: mount MTP phone Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-05 14:30 +0200

#171733 — mount MTP phone

I'm at a loss, friends:
I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP device, 
and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
Anyone?
I'm running Jessie on AMD64

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#171734

On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I'm at a loss, friends:
> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP 
> device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
> AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
> When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
> Anyone?
> I'm running Jessie on AMD64
Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?

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#171735

On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 09:30:38PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> > On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > > I'm at a loss, friends:
> > > I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP
> > > device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
> > > AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
> > > When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
> > > I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
> > > Anyone?
> > > I'm running Jessie on AMD64
> > Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?
> 
> Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I was
> active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but
> 
> I confess, I had not, until now.
> 
> Seems I get a bunch of this:
> 
> Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to
> enumerate USB device on port 1

Could be hardware. Have you tried the simplest test of all: plugging the
phone into a different USB port?

Can other computers detect it? 

Is the phone unlocked? My own phone is only detected if I unlock it either
before plugging it in, or after doing so.
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#171737

On 09/04/2016 09:35 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 09:30:38PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
>>> On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>> I'm at a loss, friends:
>>>> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP
>>>> device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
>>>> AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
>>>> When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
>>>> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
>>>> Anyone?
>>>> I'm running Jessie on AMD64
>>> Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?
>>
>> Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I was
>> active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but
>>
>> I confess, I had not, until now.
>>
>> Seems I get a bunch of this:
>>
>> Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to
>> enumerate USB device on port 1
>
> Could be hardware. Have you tried the simplest test of all: plugging the
> phone into a different USB port?
>
> Can other computers detect it?
>
> Is the phone unlocked? My own phone is only detected if I unlock it either
> before plugging it in, or after doing so.
>
I've tried two USB ports, three charger chords, screen locked/unlocked.
rebooting both machines in various combos/orders..
The only thing I haven't done is sacrifice a goat first.
./tony

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#171739

On 09/04/2016 09:40 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/04/2016 09:35 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
>> Could be hardware. Have you tried the simplest test of all: plugging the
>> phone into a different USB port?
>>
>> Can other computers detect it?
>>
>> Is the phone unlocked? My own phone is only detected if I unlock it 
>> either
>> before plugging it in, or after doing so.
>>
> I've tried two USB ports, three charger chords, screen locked/unlocked.
> rebooting both machines in various combos/orders..
> The only thing I haven't done is sacrifice a goat first.
> ./tony

I notice you have *not* tried plugging the phone into a different 
computer. At least, you don't mention doing so.

Can your Debian box detect other Android (I'm assuming) devices?

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#171740

On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 21:40:13 -0400
Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> wrote:

> I've tried two USB ports, three charger chords, screen locked/unlocked.
> rebooting both machines in various combos/orders..
> The only thing I haven't done is sacrifice a goat first.
> ./tony
> 

Are you using a USB3.0 port? Is the kernel up-to-date? For a while, Jessie's USB3.0 support was basically broken (as it was in most late-model kernels and is still broken in some); some of the recent kernel updates seems to have fixed it.

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#171741

On 09/04/2016 10:13 PM, Neal P. Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 21:40:13 -0400
> Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> I've tried two USB ports, three charger chords, screen locked/unlocked.
>> rebooting both machines in various combos/orders..
>> The only thing I haven't done is sacrifice a goat first.
>> ./tony
>>
>
> Are you using a USB3.0 port? Is the kernel up-to-date? For a while, Jessie's USB3.0 support was basically broken (as it was in most late-model kernels and is still broken in some); some of the recent kernel updates seems to have fixed it.
>

I don't know what kind any of these USB ports are ( as far as 3.0 or 
whatever), and everything was updated (update-> safe-upgrade) last week.

./tony

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#172127

On Monday 05 September 2016 03:38:39 Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> I don't know what kind any of these USB ports are

Have a look at the port and/or the plug.  White or black=USB2 and blue=USB3.  
(We can safely ignore USB1).  I have even come across USB2 not working in a 
USB3 port, even though it should in theory.

Lisi

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#171736

On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> I'm at a loss, friends:
>> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP 
>> device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
>> AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
>> When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
>> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
>> Anyone?
>> I'm running Jessie on AMD64
> Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?

Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I was 
active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but

I confess, I had not, until now.

Seems I get a bunch of this:

Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to 
enumerate USB device on port 1



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#171738

On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 09:30:38PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> > On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > > I'm at a loss, friends:
> > > I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP
> > > device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
> > > AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
> > > When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
> > > I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
> > > Anyone?
> > > I'm running Jessie on AMD64
> > Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?
> 
> Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I was
> active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but
> 
> I confess, I had not, until now.
> 
> Seems I get a bunch of this:
> 
> Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to
> enumerate USB device on port 1

What do you get with dmesg?  For example, run <sudo dmesg -wH>, then plug the
device in.  What is the complete output?

Also, do you have libmtp installed?

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#171742

On 09/04/2016 10:01 PM, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> sudo dmesg -wH


Still seeing tonso this:
[  +0.448021] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[  +0.448006] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[  +0.447994] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[  +0.447932] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1

same as in /var/log/syslog

./tony

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#171743

On 09/04/2016 10:01 PM, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 09:30:38PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
>>> On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>> I'm at a loss, friends:
>>>> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP
>>>> device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
>>>> AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
>>>> When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
>>>> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
>>>> Anyone?
>>>> I'm running Jessie on AMD64
>>> Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?
>>
>> Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I was
>> active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but
>>
>> I confess, I had not, until now.
>>
>> Seems I get a bunch of this:
>>
>> Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to
>> enumerate USB device on port 1
>
> What do you get with dmesg?  For example, run <sudo dmesg -wH>, then plug the
> device in.  What is the complete output?
>
> Also, do you have libmtp installed?
>

And, yes, as mentioned earlier, libmtp is installed along with jmtpfs, 
and a handful of other relevant mtp pkgs. I did mention that in my first 
post
Thanks,
Tony

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#171745

On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 22:52:33 -0400
Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 09/04/2016 10:01 PM, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 09:30:38PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> >>> On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >>>> I'm at a loss, friends:
> >>>> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP
> >>>> device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
> >>>> AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
> >>>> When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
> >>>> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
> >>>> Anyone?
> >>>> I'm running Jessie on AMD64
> >>> Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?
> >>
> >> Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I was
> >> active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but
> >>
> >> I confess, I had not, until now.
> >>
> >> Seems I get a bunch of this:
> >>
> >> Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable to
> >> enumerate USB device on port 1
> >
> > What do you get with dmesg?  For example, run <sudo dmesg -wH>, then plug the
> > device in.  What is the complete output?
> >
> > Also, do you have libmtp installed?
> >
> 
> And, yes, as mentioned earlier, libmtp is installed along with jmtpfs, 
> and a handful of other relevant mtp pkgs. I did mention that in my first 
> post

Oh, wait. (Grasping at a straw...) Do you need pkg usb-modeswitch? There are some USB NADs (Network Access Device) for which udev uses usb-modeswitch to switch from the default mode that presents the Windows drivers in a filesystem to a different mode (such as, on a cellular modem, that allows one to use it somewhat like a modem). Windows handles the switch automatically, but Linux needs usb-modeswitch and udev.

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#171772

* On 2016 04 Sep 22:53 -0500, Neal P. Murphy wrote:
> Oh, wait. (Grasping at a straw...) Do you need pkg usb-modeswitch?
> There are some USB NADs (Network Access Device) for which udev uses
> usb-modeswitch to switch from the default mode that presents the
> Windows drivers in a filesystem to a different mode (such as, on a
> cellular modem, that allows one to use it somewhat like a
> modem). Windows handles the switch automatically, but Linux needs
> usb-modeswitch and udev.

I've yet to try it myself but I do know that my Motorola XT-901
(Electrify M) Android phone will come up as a removable drive under
windows so that one can download and install the Windows software for
accessing the phone's file system.  Running that software permits
switching the phone into an MTP device.

Likewise, plugging the phone into a Linux desktop causes it to be
connected as a USB mass storage device and nothing else.  At least it
used to as I now use the AirDroid app to access the phone over the LAN
with more functionality than MTP offered, as I recall.

- Nate

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#171746

On 09/04/2016 10:52 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> And, yes, as mentioned earlier, libmtp is installed along with jmtpfs, 
> and a handful of other relevant mtp pkgs. I did mention that in my 
> first post
> Thanks,

You didn't enumerate, you just said you had "relevant" packages installed, IIRC.

How about mount.mtpfs?
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#171822

Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> writes:

> On 09/04/2016 09:22 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
>> On 09/04/2016 09:13 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> I'm at a loss, friends:
>>> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP
>>> device, and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
>>> AFAIK, I have all the requisite MTP packages installed .
>>> When I plug it in, lsusb doesn't show it at all, however.
>>> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
>>> Anyone?
>>> I'm running Jessie on AMD64
>> Have you looked at /var/log/syslog for the relevant period?
>
> Sorry Carl, you're getting this twice now (it's been a while since I
> was active on lists, I've forgotten how to behave), but
>
> I confess, I had not, until now.
>
> Seems I get a bunch of this:
>
> Sep  4 21:23:47 deathstar kernel: [26533.020450] hub 10-0:1.0: unable
> to enumerate USB device on port 1

That's your problem...  you should be seeing something more like

Sep  6 09:13:02 snowball kernel: [1030652.496395] usb 5-2.1.4: new high-speed USB device number 13 using xhci_hcd
Sep  6 09:13:02 snowball kernel: [1030652.596926] usb 5-2.1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=4ee1
Sep  6 09:13:02 snowball kernel: [1030652.596930] usb 5-2.1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Sep  6 09:13:02 snowball kernel: [1030652.596931] usb 5-2.1.4: Product: Nexus 5
Sep  6 09:13:02 snowball kernel: [1030652.596933] usb 5-2.1.4: Manufacturer: LGE
Sep  6 09:13:02 snowball kernel: [1030652.596934] usb 5-2.1.4: SerialNumber: 039d5ef3437cc5b0

Of course, the strings I'm showing are for a different phone!   Most
commonly when I've seen a device fail to enumerate, the problem has been
the cable (I know, you've already said you've tried multiple cables).
But you need to be enumerating before absolutely anything else will
happen and before anything else is relevant...  you aren't having
trouble with other USB devices?  No chance there's a USB enable/disable
on the phone?  (on mine, things enumerate properly like I showed, but
nothing else happens until I select "USB for file transfers" in a
dropdown on the phone).
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#171834

On Tuesday 06 September 2016 09:19:07 Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Most commonly when I've seen a device fail to enumerate, the problem has
> been the cable (I know, you've already said you've tried multiple cables).

I second that opinion.

MTP only works with a 24/28 gauge USB cable on my daughter's Android phone. 
That's a cable with thick power wires.

With a standard 28/28 gauge USB cable the MTP device is detected but it 
disconnects within seconds. It continues with a sequence of connect/disconnect 
until Android complains that it can not find any suitable software on the host 
computer to communicate with.

I suspect the OP might have had multiple issues that had to be fixed in the 
right order to solve the problem. The cable being only one of them.

Frederic

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#171751

Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I'm at a loss, friends:
> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP device, 
> and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
> [snip]
> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
> Anyone?

Is the phone set to "USB for Charge Only"?  Mine ~always~ resets to
that, and I have to change it every time I plug it in and want to use it
as a USB drive.


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#171754

On 09/05/2016 06:50 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> I'm at a loss, friends:
>> I have a phone (Motorola Droid Turbo), which functions as an MTP device,
>> and auto-mounts on Win7, but not on Debian 8.
>> [snip]
>> I don't know what else to do to try and diagnose or resolve the matter.
>> Anyone?
>
> Is the phone set to "USB for Charge Only"?  Mine ~always~ resets to
> that, and I have to change it every time I plug it in and want to use it
> as a USB drive.
>
>
Mine is definitely set to connect as an MTP device.

Thanks,
Tony

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