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  productivity tips kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 00:20 +0100
    Re: productivity tips Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 01:40 +0100
      Re: productivity tips Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 01:50 +0100
        Re: productivity tips Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2017-01-01 02:10 +0100
      Re: productivity tips Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-01-01 05:00 +0100
        Re: productivity tips Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-01-01 07:10 +0100
          Re: productivity tips <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-01-01 12:50 +0100
            Re: productivity tips Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-01-01 13:00 +0100
              Re: productivity tips <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-01-01 13:50 +0100
                Re: productivity tips Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-01-01 14:40 +0100
                  Re: productivity tips <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-01-01 15:10 +0100
                    Re: productivity tips cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2017-03-16 13:10 +0100
                      Re: productivity tips <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-16 13:20 +0100
                Re: productivity tips Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-01-01 15:40 +0100
                  Re: productivity tips tomas@tuxteam.de - 2017-01-01 16:10 +0100
              Re: productivity tips Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-01-01 15:40 +0100
    Re: productivity tips Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2017-01-01 18:20 +0100

#176165 — productivity tips

Would you like to share some Debian tips that made a significant
impact to your productivity in 2016? Things that you wish you had
known earlier.

Here are my top two.

1) Zim
I found it useful for organizing thoughts, making todo lists, creating
documentation especially when working on multiple projects with many
task holders.

The software can be installed by apt-get install zim.

2) Searching command line history using glob patterns
Basically, when reverse searching the command history using ctrl-r,
you can use glob expressions in the search by adding the following
lines to zshrc.

# Use glob patterns when using ctrl-r
#   ctrl-r wordA*wordB
# will match commands where wordA is followed by wordB with zero or more number
# of characters in between. This functionality is not available in old zsh
# versions (ex:- 4.2.6) so check for its availability.
zle -al | grep -q history-incremental-pattern-search-backward
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
  bindkey "\C-r" history-incremental-pattern-search-backward
fi

Once done, ctrl-r sudo*apt*update will bring up "sudo apt-get install
update" if such a command already exists in the history.

AFAIK only zsh has this functionality.

thanks
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

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#176168

On 12/31/16, kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would you like to share some Debian tips that made a significant
> impact to your productivity in 2016? Things that you wish you had
> known earlier.
>
> Here are my top two.
>
> 1) Zim
> I found it useful for organizing thoughts, making todo lists, creating
> documentation especially when working on multiple projects with many
> task holders.
>
> The software can be installed by apt-get install zim.
>
> 2) Searching command line history using glob patterns
> Basically, when reverse searching the command history using ctrl-r,
> you can use glob expressions in the search by adding the following
> lines to zshrc.
>
> # Use glob patterns when using ctrl-r
> #   ctrl-r wordA*wordB
> # will match commands where wordA is followed by wordB with zero or more
> number
> # of characters in between. This functionality is not available in old zsh
> # versions (ex:- 4.2.6) so check for its availability.
> zle -al | grep -q history-incremental-pattern-search-backward
> if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
>   bindkey "\C-r" history-incremental-pattern-search-backward
> fi
>
> Once done, ctrl-r sudo*apt*update will bring up "sudo apt-get install
> update" if such a command already exists in the history.
>
> AFAIK only zsh has this functionality.


Hi.. I can't remember if it was this year or last so we can pretend it
was this year that I stumbled upon the concept of "mindmapping" (mind
mapping). I just ran a quick "apt-cache search" on it and didn't see
much available when you use a single repository for Sid's packages. I
"endure"... some ongoing "circumstances" where that would have been
hugely beneficial for connecting the dots had I learned of the concept
five or six years ago.

No, I'm not using the concept this second, but FreeMind was one I did
specifically test drive a while back. Am not finding it under Sid just
this sec so not sure the where or how from the time I did download it.

Best wishes in 2017 to everyone!

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with plastic sporks *

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#176169

On Sunday 01 January 2017 00:36:42 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> Hi.. I can't remember if it was this year or last so we can pretend it
> was this year that I stumbled upon the concept of "mindmapping" (mind
> mapping). I just ran a quick "apt-cache search" on it and didn't see
> much available when you use a single repository for Sid's packages. I
> "endure"... some ongoing "circumstances" where that would have been
> hugely beneficial for connecting the dots had I learned of the concept
> five or six years ago.
>
> No, I'm not using the concept this second, but FreeMind was one I did
> specifically test drive a while back. Am not finding it under Sid just
> this sec so not sure the where or how from the time I did download it.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=freemind

Jessie and Wheezy.

> Best wishes in 2017 to everyone!

May it be a better year than I fear.

Lisi

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#176170

On 12/31/2016 07:45 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 01 January 2017 00:36:42 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> Hi.. I can't remember if it was this year or last so we can pretend it
>> was this year that I stumbled upon the concept of "mindmapping" (mind
>> mapping). I just ran a quick "apt-cache search" on it and didn't see
>> much available when you use a single repository for Sid's packages. I
>> "endure"... some ongoing "circumstances" where that would have been
>> hugely beneficial for connecting the dots had I learned of the concept
>> five or six years ago.
>>
>> No, I'm not using the concept this second, but FreeMind was one I did
>> specifically test drive a while back. Am not finding it under Sid just
>> this sec so not sure the where or how from the time I did download it.
>
> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=freemind
>
> Jessie and Wheezy.
>
>> Best wishes in 2017 to everyone!
>
> May it be a better year than I fear.
>
> Lisi
>

Or try:
aptitude show calligraflow
and/or check out https://www.calligra.org/flow/
This Calligra/flow used to be Kivio, the Koffice answer to MSorifice's 
Visio thingy.

Tony

-- 
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

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#176171

On 01/01/17 13:36, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> Hi.. I can't remember if it was this year or last so we can pretend it
> was this year that I stumbled upon the concept of "mindmapping" (mind
> mapping). I just ran a quick "apt-cache search" on it and didn't see
> much available when you use a single repository for Sid's packages. I
> "endure"... some ongoing "circumstances" where that would have been
> hugely beneficial for connecting the dots had I learned of the concept
> five or six years ago.
> No, I'm not using the concept this second, but FreeMind was one I did
> specifically test drive a while back. Am not finding it under Sid just
> this sec so not sure the where or how from the time I did download it.

+1 for mind mapping and FreeMind in particular. I use it to organise 
just about everything. To-do lists become trees and searching goes from 
O(n) to O(log(n)).

I must have installed freemind before jessie was released; I am on 
unstable and am surprised to confirm that freemind has been removed from 
unstable and replaced with freeplane:
https://packages.qa.debian.org/f/freemind/news/20151218T134002Z.html

Thanks, Cindy, for bringing this to my attention.

freemind from jessie works fine on unstable. I never noticed its 
removal. I may try freeplane; I will add an item to my to-do mind map  :-)
https://www.freeplane.org/wiki/index.php/Relationship_to_FreeMind
https://www.freeplane.org/wiki/index.php/Freeplane_features_you_were_missing_in_FreeMind#Migrating_from_FreeMind_to_Freeplane

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#176172

emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the older 
mind mappers available for download.

On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:59:22
> From: Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
> To: Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com>
> Cc: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: productivity tips
> Resent-Date: Sun,  1 Jan 2017 03:59:47 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> On 01/01/17 13:36, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> Hi.. I can't remember if it was this year or last so we can pretend it
>> was this year that I stumbled upon the concept of "mindmapping" (mind
>> mapping). I just ran a quick "apt-cache search" on it and didn't see
>> much available when you use a single repository for Sid's packages. I
>> "endure"... some ongoing "circumstances" where that would have been
>> hugely beneficial for connecting the dots had I learned of the concept
>> five or six years ago.
>> No, I'm not using the concept this second, but FreeMind was one I did
>> specifically test drive a while back. Am not finding it under Sid just
>> this sec so not sure the where or how from the time I did download it.
>
> +1 for mind mapping and FreeMind in particular. I use it to organise just 
> about everything. To-do lists become trees and searching goes from O(n) to 
> O(log(n)).
>
> I must have installed freemind before jessie was released; I am on unstable 
> and am surprised to confirm that freemind has been removed from unstable and 
> replaced with freeplane:
> https://packages.qa.debian.org/f/freemind/news/20151218T134002Z.html
>
> Thanks, Cindy, for bringing this to my attention.
>
> freemind from jessie works fine on unstable. I never noticed its removal. I 
> may try freeplane; I will add an item to my to-do mind map  :-)
> https://www.freeplane.org/wiki/index.php/Relationship_to_FreeMind
> https://www.freeplane.org/wiki/index.php/Freeplane_features_you_were_missing_in_FreeMind#Migrating_from_FreeMind_to_Freeplane
>
> Kind regards,
>
>

-- 

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#176178

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On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the
> older mind mappers available for download.

+1 on org mode. Especially org-babel: you can embed "program" snippets
(shell, Python, C, R, dotty, what have you) and execute them right "off
the text", getting the result (yes, images too) embedded in the text.

When rendering the whole thing to PDF or HTML or LaTeX, the snippets
are (optionally) re-executed, keeping the results "fresh". The C
thingy is particularly impressive, since the compiler is invoked
behind the scene :-)

Once the threshold is taken, documenting stuff (for oneself or for
others) becomes fun.

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#176179

On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the
>> older mind mappers available for download.
>
> +1 on org mode. Especially org-babel: you can embed "program" snippets
> (shell, Python, C, R, dotty, what have you) and execute them right "off
> the text", getting the result (yes, images too) embedded in the text.
>
> When rendering the whole thing to PDF or HTML or LaTeX, the snippets
> are (optionally) re-executed, keeping the results "fresh". The C
> thingy is particularly impressive, since the compiler is invoked
> behind the scene :-)
>
> Once the threshold is taken, documenting stuff (for oneself or for
> others) becomes fun.
>

That description is intriguing. Are there HOWTO's oriented to a 
newbie who has never seen emacs?
TIA

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#176187

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On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 05:57:03AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> >On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >>emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the
> >>older mind mappers available for download.
> >
> >+1 on org mode [...]

> That description is intriguing. Are there HOWTO's oriented to a
> newbie who has never seen emacs?
> TIA

Getting started on Emacs can be pretty daunting, to be honest.
It pays off big time, IMHO. One of the problems is that it's
a very old program with a strong community and it has developed
a 30-year old culture which is difficult to penetrate.

It displays one of those "documentation problems": in spite of
being thoroughly documented down to tech function's source code,
including full text search, all accessible from inside the edior,
I had a tough time to "get into" the culture to be able to make
use of it.

I'd recommend just installing your distro's emacs (Debian's is
pretty good, albeit not cutting edge) and working through the
tutorial (available through the Help menu), keeping a tab on
some idiosyncracies (e.g. the tutorial tries to nudge you into
using cursor -- called "point" in Emacs jargon -- movement
comands like control-n, control-p although the arrow keys work
perfectly). Just ask away when stuck.

For some pointers on Org-mode and specifically on org-babel:

http://orgmode.org/
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode
http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html

and of course, the inimitable Sacha Chua's blog

http://sachachua.com/blog/category/geek/emacs/org/

Take a bit of patience wth you. It's worth it.

Enjoy the ride
- -- tomás
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#176194

On 1/1/2017 6:49 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 05:57:03AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>> emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the
>>>> older mind mappers available for download.
>>>
>>> +1 on org mode [...]
>
>> That description is intriguing. Are there HOWTO's oriented to a
>> newbie who has never seen emacs?
>> TIA
>
> Getting started on Emacs can be pretty daunting, to be honest.
> It pays off big time, IMHO. One of the problems is that it's
> a very old program with a strong community and it has developed
> a 30-year old culture which is difficult to penetrate.

Any worse than Digital Equipment's TECO circa 1970?
You could do strange and wondrous things with it.
I'm new to Linux but no "spring chicken" ;/


>
> It displays one of those "documentation problems": in spite of
> being thoroughly documented down to tech function's source code,
> including full text search, all accessible from inside the edior,
> I had a tough time to "get into" the culture to be able to make
> use of it.
>
> I'd recommend just installing your distro's emacs (Debian's is
> pretty good, albeit not cutting edge) and working through the
> tutorial (available through the Help menu), keeping a tab on
> some idiosyncracies (e.g. the tutorial tries to nudge you into
> using cursor -- called "point" in Emacs jargon -- movement
> comands like control-n, control-p although the arrow keys work
> perfectly). Just ask away when stuck.
>
> For some pointers on Org-mode and specifically on org-babel:
>
> http://orgmode.org/
> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode
> http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html
>
> and of course, the inimitable Sacha Chua's blog
>
> http://sachachua.com/blog/category/geek/emacs/org/
>
> Take a bit of patience wth you. It's worth it.
>
> Enjoy the ride

As soon as I solve my current hardware problems.

As I've said before, "If retirement is not for learning, what use 
is it?"
Thanks

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#176195

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On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 07:36:29AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 1/1/2017 6:49 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> >Getting started on Emacs can be pretty daunting [...]

> Any worse than Digital Equipment's TECO circa 1970?

I don't think so. Emacs has evolved quite a bit since then.

> You could do strange and wondrous things with it.
> I'm new to Linux but no "spring chicken" ;/

This could be an advantage, since you'd understand better why,
e.g., the tutorials insist on control-key combinations instead
of the arrow keys (although those work: I admit on using those):
you've lived through pretty strange keyboards yourself.

[...]

> >Take a bit of patience wth you. It's worth it.
> >
> >Enjoy the ride
> 
> As soon as I solve my current hardware problems.
> 
> As I've said before, "If retirement is not for learning, what use is
> it?"

Then Emacs is for you (TM) ;-)

Just show me the editor which takes you to a function's source code
(yes, even to the C source itself!) within a few keystrokes.

regards
- -- tomás
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#178899

On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 03:02:32PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> Just show me the editor which takes you to a function's source code
> (yes, even to the C source itself!) within a few keystrokes.

Ummmm, oh, here we go:

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Browsing_programs_with_tags

enjoy. :)

-- 
The media's the most powerful entity on earth. 
They have the power to make the innocent guilty 
and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power.
 -- Malcolm X

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#178902

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On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 01:07:47AM +1300, cbannister@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 03:02:32PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > Just show me the editor which takes you to a function's source code
> > (yes, even to the C source itself!) within a few keystrokes.
> 
> Ummmm, oh, here we go:
> 
> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Browsing_programs_with_tags
> 
> enjoy. :)

No, no. I meant to an *inner* function, to a part of the editor
itself. Introspection, so to speak. Without you having to prepare
a tags file. Giving you the possibility of changing the editor
itself on the spot.

Even when an error occurs: the stack trace has links in it.

The old dream of the Lisp Machine (which in ways *is* Emacs's
godmother).

Don't get me wrong, I love Vim. I use it quite a bit. I'm writing
this with Vim (old habits). But Emacs is... another solar system.

Regards
- -- tomás
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#176198

All emacs info pages are in a if I remember emacs-common-nondfsg file 
and once those are installed if you know how to use info you ought to be 
up and running pretty quickly.

On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 07:49:33
> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: productivity tips
> Resent-Date: Sun,  1 Jan 2017 12:49:50 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
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> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 05:57:03AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>> emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the
>>>> older mind mappers available for download.
>>>
>>> +1 on org mode [...]
>
>> That description is intriguing. Are there HOWTO's oriented to a
>> newbie who has never seen emacs?
>> TIA
>
> Getting started on Emacs can be pretty daunting, to be honest.
> It pays off big time, IMHO. One of the problems is that it's
> a very old program with a strong community and it has developed
> a 30-year old culture which is difficult to penetrate.
>
> It displays one of those "documentation problems": in spite of
> being thoroughly documented down to tech function's source code,
> including full text search, all accessible from inside the edior,
> I had a tough time to "get into" the culture to be able to make
> use of it.
>
> I'd recommend just installing your distro's emacs (Debian's is
> pretty good, albeit not cutting edge) and working through the
> tutorial (available through the Help menu), keeping a tab on
> some idiosyncracies (e.g. the tutorial tries to nudge you into
> using cursor -- called "point" in Emacs jargon -- movement
> comands like control-n, control-p although the arrow keys work
> perfectly). Just ask away when stuck.
>
> For some pointers on Org-mode and specifically on org-babel:
>
> http://orgmode.org/
> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode
> http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html
>
> and of course, the inimitable Sacha Chua's blog
>
> http://sachachua.com/blog/category/geek/emacs/org/
>
> Take a bit of patience wth you. It's worth it.
>
> Enjoy the ride
> - -- tom?s
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#176201

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On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 09:37:08AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> All emacs info pages are in a if I remember emacs-common-nondfsg

Thanks, Jude. Good point, which I missed.

There's a license incopatibility between the FSF's documentation
license and Debian's free software guidelines which makes the FSF's
docs appear under "non-free" in Debian. That's unfortunate, but
something which happens because both groups take their licensing
policies seriously (which is in itself a Good Thing, imho).

> file and once those are installed if you know how to use info you
> ought to be up and running pretty quickly.

That depends on "you" and "quickly" :-)

The documentation itself is extensive and well written, but if you
come with preconceptions (most of us do), you might still have
a hard time at the beginning. Full text search? No problem, but if
you don't know that Emacs calls its cursor "point" or its selection
"region" (OK, "region" is something much more interesting than
just a selection) or...

I know it myself because I went through that at the beginning. Coming
from vi (and later the awesome vim, which I still love to use: call
me kinky if you want :)

But good to know that some, like you, seem to "get into" more easily.

Thanks and regards
- -- tomás
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loads of youtube videos, and those if produced correctly can be more 
effective than howtos especially for visual learners.  On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, 
Richard Owlett wrote:

> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 06:57:03
> From: Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: productivity tips
> Resent-Date: Sun,  1 Jan 2017 11:57:41 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the
>>> older mind mappers available for download.
>> 
>> +1 on org mode. Especially org-babel: you can embed "program" snippets
>> (shell, Python, C, R, dotty, what have you) and execute them right "off
>> the text", getting the result (yes, images too) embedded in the text.
>> 
>> When rendering the whole thing to PDF or HTML or LaTeX, the snippets
>> are (optionally) re-executed, keeping the results "fresh". The C
>> thingy is particularly impressive, since the compiler is invoked
>> behind the scene :-)
>> 
>> Once the threshold is taken, documenting stuff (for oneself or for
>> others) becomes fun.
>> 
>
> That description is intriguing. Are there HOWTO's oriented to a newbie who 
> has never seen emacs?
> TIA
>
>

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[Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:10:22 -0500] kamaraju kusumanchi
<raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would you like to share some Debian tips that made a significant
> impact to your productivity in 2016? Things that you wish you had
> known earlier.

Well, it is probably not very ``productive'' but still something I
would have liked to know earlier:

	/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99masysma.conf
	Dpkg::Progress-Fancy "1";
	APT::Color "1";

This adds progress bars to APT which is handy to estimate how long the
update will run.

> 2) Searching command line history using glob patterns
> Basically, when reverse searching the command history using ctrl-r,
> you can use glob expressions in the search by adding the following
> lines to zshrc.

[...]

> AFAIK only zsh has this functionality.

JFTR, in Bash you can do $ set -o vi (I have this in my bashrc) and then
[ESC] /pattern [ENTER] to search the history for regular expressions.
Just like in VI, the next result is found by pressing `n` :)

A useful Debian application I ``found'' in 2016 was `dnsmasq`. I had to
test a network-enabled device in an environment where the only other
computer I had was my laptop and with `dnsmasq` I could setup a
realistic network between them (where the device takes its IP via DHCP).

I would have liked to know this earlier because I sometimes had to cope
with unreliable DHCP from my router and having an own DHCP server
available if the router DHCP fails would have been a time-saver at
least.

Happy new Year
Linux-Fan

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