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Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked

Started byRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
First post2016-12-28 13:40 +0100
Last post2016-12-28 21:20 +0100
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  Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-28 13:40 +0100
    Re: Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 14:40 +0100
      Re: Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-28 14:50 +0100
    Re: Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-12-28 18:10 +0100
      Re: Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-12-28 22:50 +0100
      Re: Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-12-28 21:20 +0100

#176004 — Can Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-12-28 13:40 +0100
SubjectCan Synaptic when used with Mate be tweaked
Message-ID<sTlGp-8ds-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
I've just installed Jessie with Mate DE to a new machine.

On previous installs on other machines, a search icon was present 
on Synaptic's menu bar. It is not there now, what have I done 
differently?

My machine is a laptop whose CD eject button is small and in an 
awkward location. Is there anyway to have Synaptic eject rather 
than unmount the CD when it has finished with it?
[As a side note, I have noticed that some USB flash drives have a 
"safe remove" option, others have only an "eject" option. I would 
prefer USB flash drives to only have an unmount option. Possible?]

As an alternative to the above, is there any way to have Synaptic 
use an external USB connected drive rather than the internal CD? 
The external drive is moderately faster and has a convent eject 
button.

TIA

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#176006

FromMark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-28 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<sTmCt-n7-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#176004
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 06:33:11AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

> As an alternative to the above, is there any way to have Synaptic use an
> external USB connected drive rather than the internal CD? The external drive
> is moderately faster and has a convent eject button.
> 

A CONVENT EJECT BUTTON????? Brilliant!

I love your typos man. You are a continuous source of gems of 
miscommunication. Please don't ever learn to spell.

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#176007

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-12-28 14:50 +0100
Message-ID<sTmM9-qr-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#176006
On 12/28/2016 7:31 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 06:33:11AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> As an alternative to the above, is there any way to have Synaptic use an
>> external USB connected drive rather than the internal CD? The external drive
>> is moderately faster and has a convent eject button.
>>
>
> A CONVENT EJECT BUTTON????? Brilliant!
>
> I love your typos man. You are a continuous source of gems of
> miscommunication. Please don't ever learn to spell.
>
>

You don't ever see some of the good ones.
My spell choker does a fantastic jog ;/

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#176011

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-12-28 18:10 +0100
Message-ID<sTpTI-2JD-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#176004
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 06:33:11 -0600
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> I've just installed Jessie with Mate DE to a new machine.
> 
> On previous installs on other machines, a search icon was present 
> on Synaptic's menu bar. It is not there now, what have I done 
> differently?

Have you no icon (magnifying glass) at all? If this is missing, you
have some kind of installation problem with Synaptic, blow away and
try again. If you want a search text input icon in addition to the
basic magnifying glass search, you need the non-default
apt-xapian-index package and a few dependencies.

> 
> My machine is a laptop whose CD eject button is small and in an 
> awkward location. Is there anyway to have Synaptic eject rather 
> than unmount the CD when it has finished with it?

Probably not Synaptic as such, but a right-click on the drive in a file
manager should give an 'eject' option, or there may be an up arrow
beside the drive name. You probably have to close anything which is
currently using the drive.

> [As a side note, I have noticed that some USB flash drives have a 
> "safe remove" option, others have only an "eject" option. I would 
> prefer USB flash drives to only have an unmount option. Possible?]

Don't know, I generally use a file manager with USB drives, and just
hit the up arrow beside the drive when I'm finished. If more than one
partition is mounted, clicking on one arrow blinks the light on the
drive (if it has one) and unmounts all partitions.
> 
> As an alternative to the above, is there any way to have Synaptic 
> use an external USB connected drive rather than the internal CD? 

I would think you'd have to make sure it has a fixed name, and give it
a sources.list file uri entry.

> The external drive is moderately faster and has a convent eject 
> button.

Are you in the market for flying nun jokes?

-- 
Joe

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#176021

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-12-28 22:50 +0100
Message-ID<sTugG-5Ko-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#176011
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:10:18 -0600
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 12/28/2016 11:06 AM, Joe wrote:

> >
> > Have you no icon (magnifying glass) at all?  
> 
> That is correct.
> 
> > If this is missing, you have some kind of installation problem with
> > Synaptic,  
> 
> I suspected as much. The FIND function does exist and is 
> available thru one of the menus.
> 
> > blow away and try again.  
> 
> How do I "blow away"?

aptitude purge synaptic
apt-get purge synaptic

 as preferred. You should really be able to 'mark for complete removal'
from Synaptic, but I've learned never to ask for trouble, and would use
some other tool to remove Synaptic itself. Then either apt-get or
aptitude to install.

> 
> >  If you want a search text input icon in addition to the
> > basic magnifying glass search, you need the non-default
> > apt-xapian-index package and a few dependencies.  
> 
> Not quite ;) I wish "NORMAL" 'quote' operation 'unquote'.
> IOW, "what did I mess up?"
> 

Nothing, as far as I know. I'm reasonably sure the basic search is
built-in, and does not need any kind of add-on. I like the Xapian
search, so I do add that, but YMMV.


> 
> What I was really hoping for would be a solution of form examine 
> sr0 first then sr1, chose whichever had the appropriate CD/DVD.
> 
I'm reasonably sure that the lines in the traditional sources.list will
be checked in order, and anything not present will not cause trouble.
But I don't think there's any syntax for 'treat whatever you find in
location X as a repository', I think you do need to use the exact name
of the CD-ROM or the file path of the mounted drive. You might try a
careful study of man sources.list, but I don't think you'll win. On the
other hand, I believe the apt repository system is extensible, so such
a search might be added.

-- 
Joe

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#176064

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-12-28 21:20 +0100
Message-ID<sTsRz-4Tc-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#176011
On 12/28/2016 11:06 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 06:33:11 -0600
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
>> I've just installed Jessie with Mate DE to a new machine.
>>
>> On previous installs on other machines, a search icon was present
>> on Synaptic's menu bar. It is not there now, what have I done
>> differently?
>
> Have you no icon (magnifying glass) at all?

That is correct.

> If this is missing, you have some kind of installation problem with Synaptic,

I suspected as much. The FIND function does exist and is 
available thru one of the menus.

> blow away and try again.

How do I "blow away"?

>  If you want a search text input icon in addition to the
> basic magnifying glass search, you need the non-default
> apt-xapian-index package and a few dependencies.

Not quite ;) I wish "NORMAL" 'quote' operation 'unquote'.
IOW, "what did I mess up?"

>
>> My machine is a laptop whose CD eject button is small and in an
>> awkward location. Is there anyway to have Synaptic eject rather
>> than unmount the CD when it has finished with it?
>
> Probably not Synaptic as such

That is what I suspected.

> , but a right-click on the drive in a file
> manager should give an 'eject' option, or there may be an up arrow
> beside the drive name. You probably have to close anything which is
> currently using the drive.

Yepp, that is essentially my workaround.

>
>> [As a side note, I have noticed that some USB flash drives have a
>> "safe remove" option, others have only an "eject" option. I would
>> prefer USB flash drives to only have an unmount option. Possible?]
>
> Don't know, I generally use a file manager with USB drives, and just
> hit the up arrow beside the drive when I'm finished. If more than one
> partition is mounted, clicking on one arrow blinks the light on the
> drive (if it has one) and unmounts all partitions.

To paraphrase a burger joint ad of yester-year - "I want it my way".

>>
>> As an alternative to the above, is there any way to have Synaptic
>> use an external USB connected drive rather than the internal CD?
>
> I would think you'd have to make sure it has a fixed name, and give it
> a sources.list file uri entry.

What I was really hoping for would be a solution of form examine 
sr0 first then sr1, chose whichever had the appropriate CD/DVD.

>
>> The external drive is moderately faster and has a convent eject
>> button.
>
> Are you in the market for flying nun jokes?

So I can't spell.
Decades ago I knew a sister who would be rolling on floor laughing!
Her Mother Superior would be grimacing with a smile on her face.
Nuns *DO* have a sense of humor ;)

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