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no sound?

Started byTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
First post2016-09-10 18:40 +0200
Last post2016-11-13 22:10 +0100
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  no sound? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-10 18:40 +0200
    Re: no sound? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-10 19:40 +0200
      Re: no sound? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 00:30 +0200
        Re: no sound? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-11 02:30 +0200
          Resolved: no sound? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-11 12:30 +0200
            Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 14:40 +0100
              Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 16:20 +0100
                Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! "Anthony Baldwin" <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 19:30 +0100
                  Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 21:00 +0100
                    Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 22:00 +0100
                      Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 01:10 +0100
              Resolvedagain: no sound again! Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 22:10 +0100

#171991 — no sound?

FromTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-09-10 18:40 +0200
Subjectno sound?
Message-ID<sfTtT-2Br-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
Suddenly I have no sound.
Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to Opeth.

Pulseaudio is running:
ps aux | grep pulseaudio
tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01 
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00 /bin/sh 
/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep 
pulseaudio

This is on Jessie,
Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
I'm stumped.
./tony
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#171999

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-09-10 19:40 +0200
Message-ID<sfUpX-39r-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171991
On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Suddenly I have no sound.
> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to Opeth.
>
> Pulseaudio is running:
> ps aux | grep pulseaudio
> tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
> tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00 /bin/sh
> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
> tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep
> pulseaudio
>
> This is on Jessie,
> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
> I'm stumped.
> ./tony

I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound 
worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or 
the speakers.
Still stumped

./tony

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#172017

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-11 00:30 +0200
Message-ID<sfYWC-60u-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#171999
Anthony Baldwin wrote:

> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> Suddenly I have no sound.
>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to
>> Opeth.
>>
>> Pulseaudio is running:
>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio
>> tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01
>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
>> tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00 /bin/sh
>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
>> tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep
>> pulseaudio
>>
>> This is on Jessie,
>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
>> I'm stumped.
>> ./tony
> 
> I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound
> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or
> the speakers.
> Still stumped
> 
> ./tony

I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly
configured (and unmuted)
Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted.

This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it stopped
or you rebooted and it was not there anymore?

regards

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#172022

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-09-11 02:30 +0200
Message-ID<sg0OJ-7oc-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172017
On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> Suddenly I have no sound.
>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to
>>> Opeth.
>>>
>>> Pulseaudio is running:
>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio
>>> tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01
>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
>>> tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00 /bin/sh
>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
>>> tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep
>>> pulseaudio
>>>
>>> This is on Jessie,
>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
>>> I'm stumped.
>>> ./tony
>>
>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound
>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or
>> the speakers.
>> Still stumped
>>
>> ./tony
>
> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly
> configured (and unmuted)
I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils), 
but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume 
Contol, and found that analog output was muted.
I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal), 
I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd 
totally forgotten in a minimized terminal.



> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted.
>
> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it stopped
> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore?
>
> regards
>


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#172032 — Resolved: no sound?

FromTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-09-11 12:30 +0200
SubjectResolved: no sound?
Message-ID<sgabn-4Ys-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172022
On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote:
>> Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>> Suddenly I have no sound.
>>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to
>>>> Opeth.
>>>>
>>>> Pulseaudio is running:
>>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio
>>>> tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01
>>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
>>>> tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00
>>>> /bin/sh
>>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
>>>> tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep
>>>> pulseaudio
>>>>
>>>> This is on Jessie,
>>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
>>>> I'm stumped.
>>>> ./tony
>>>
>>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
>>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
>>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound
>>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or
>>> the speakers.
>>> Still stumped
>>>
>>> ./tony
>>
>> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly
>> configured (and unmuted)
> I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils),
> but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume
> Contol, and found that analog output was muted.
> I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal),
> I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd
> totally forgotten in a minimized terminal.
>
>
>
>> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted.
>>
>> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it
>> stopped
>> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore?
>>
>> regards
>>
>
>

forgot to mark this resolved...done now
Tony
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#174648 — Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-11-13 14:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Message-ID<sD3aN-Px-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#172032
This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day 
I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the 
next and there's no sound!
Neither pavucontrol or alsamixer show anything muted.
Last it seems a reboot  (after successfully trying and succeeding to 
listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue.
I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but 
comes back on at boot. Any ideas?

On 09/11/2016 06:21 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote:
>>> Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>>> Suddenly I have no sound.
>>>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to
>>>>> Opeth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pulseaudio is running:
>>>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio
>>>>> tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01
>>>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
>>>>> tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00
>>>>> /bin/sh
>>>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
>>>>> tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep
>>>>> pulseaudio
>>>>>
>>>>> This is on Jessie,
>>>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
>>>>> I'm stumped.
>>>>> ./tony
>>>>
>>>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
>>>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
>>>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound
>>>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or
>>>> the speakers.
>>>> Still stumped
>>>>
>>>> ./tony
>>>
>>> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices
>>> correctly
>>> configured (and unmuted)
>> I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils),
>> but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume
>> Contol, and found that analog output was muted.
>> I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal),
>> I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd
>> totally forgotten in a minimized terminal.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted.
>>>
>>> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it
>>> stopped
>>> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore?
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>
>>
>
> forgot to mark this resolved...done now
> Tony

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#174657 — Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-13 16:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Message-ID<sD4Jz-1X4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174648
Anthony Baldwin wrote:

> This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day
> I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the
> next and there's no sound!
> Neither pavucontrol or alsamixer show anything muted.
> Last it seems a reboot  (after successfully trying and succeeding to
> listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue.
> I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but
> comes back on at boot. Any ideas?

yes it could be - some recent audio chips support power save - it could be
that if not used for some time it goes into power save and does not wake up
again.
I think this is configurable in the bios, or per driver option(s). Check the
manual for your chip and driver

ex: Documentation/sound/alsa/powersave.txt

regards

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#174661 — Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!

From"Anthony Baldwin" <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-11-13 19:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Message-ID<sD7Hs-3ZQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174657
Definitely not a new chip...I built this machine in 2010, and It didn't have such problems with lenny, squeeze, or wheezy, 
just now with jessie, probably another thing systemd screwed up?
Sorry for top posting but the gmx web mail isn' t letting me write beneath the message without marking my response as part of the prior msg to which I am replying.
I'm using webmail from a livecd, because another thing that' s  been Fscked on this Jessie system is I can never simply reboot, without using a live cd to check my disk with gparted several times, which I'm doing again now...Ridiculous...When did "stable" stop meaning "stable" and start meaning "useless"?

Tony
 

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 3:11 PM
From: deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Anthony Baldwin wrote:

> This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day
> I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the
> next and there's no sound!
> Neither pavucontrol or alsamixer show anything muted.
> Last it seems a reboot  (after successfully trying and succeeding to
> listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue.
> I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but
> comes back on at boot. Any ideas?

yes it could be - some recent audio chips support power save - it could be
that if not used for some time it goes into power save and does not wake up
again.
I think this is configurable in the bios, or per driver option(s). Check the
manual for your chip and driver

ex: Documentation/sound/alsa/powersave.txt

regards
 

 

 

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#174664 — Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-13 21:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Message-ID<sD96x-4KN-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174661
Anthony Baldwin wrote:

> 
> Definitely not a new chip...I built this machine in 2010, and It didn't
> have such problems with lenny, squeeze, or wheezy, just now with jessie,
> probably another thing systemd screwed up? Sorry for top posting but the
> gmx web mail isn' t letting me write beneath the message without marking
> my response as part of the prior msg to which I am replying.
> I'm using webmail from a livecd, because another thing that' s  been
> Fscked on this Jessie system is I can never simply reboot, without using a
> live cd to check my disk with gparted several times, which I'm doing again
> now...Ridiculous...When did "stable" stop meaning "stable" and start
> meaning "useless"?
> 

Hi Tony,
there might be many causes for a specific result. It could be that the
kernel supports your audio chip better than your old kernel. To me it looks
like an issue with the configuration - either bios or kernel driver.
Did you have a look in the document - perhaps check the document that
matches your kernel version and heck the driver settings.

You can eliminate systemd if you boot with init=/lib/sysvinit/init

regards

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#174668 — Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!

FromTony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com>
Date2016-11-13 22:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Message-ID<sDa2C-5ot-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174664

On 11/13/2016 02:50 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>
>>
>> Definitely not a new chip...I built this machine in 2010, and It didn't
>> have such problems with lenny, squeeze, or wheezy, just now with jessie,
>> probably another thing systemd screwed up? Sorry for top posting but the
>> gmx web mail isn' t letting me write beneath the message without marking
>> my response as part of the prior msg to which I am replying.
>> I'm using webmail from a livecd, because another thing that' s  been
>> Fscked on this Jessie system is I can never simply reboot, without using a
>> live cd to check my disk with gparted several times, which I'm doing again
>> now...Ridiculous...When did "stable" stop meaning "stable" and start
>> meaning "useless"?
>>
>
> Hi Tony,
> there might be many causes for a specific result. It could be that the
> kernel supports your audio chip better than your old kernel. To me it looks
> like an issue with the configuration - either bios or kernel driver.
> Did you have a look in the document - perhaps check the document that
> matches your kernel version and heck the driver settings.

I'm sorry, which document?
I didn't understand this path:
Documentation/sound/alsa/powersave.txt
I have no Documentation directory that I can find,
and `locate powersave.txt` shows nothing.
>
> You can eliminate systemd if you boot with init=/lib/sysvinit/init

What do I do, put this somewhere in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or 
/etc/default/grub
:wq ... doh! I guess that doesn't work in Icedove!

tony


>
> regards
>
>

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#174679 — Re: Not Resolved: no sound again!

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-14 01:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Not Resolved: no sound again!
Message-ID<sDd0t-7AM-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174668
Tony Baldwin wrote:

> What do I do, put this somewhere in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or
> /etc/default/grub

if you put it in /etc/default/grub you need to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg

try first /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then make it permanent for future grub
updates via /etc/default/grub

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#174669 — Resolvedagain: no sound again!

FromAnthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com>
Date2016-11-13 22:10 +0100
SubjectResolvedagain: no sound again!
Message-ID<sDaci-5Hf-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#174648
once again, a reboot (requiring a couple fskings) has brought the sound 
back.

On 11/13/2016 08:20 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day
> I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the
> next and there's no sound!
> Neither pavucontrol nor alsamixer show anything muted.
> Last time it seems a reboot  (after successfully trying and succeeding to
> listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue.
> I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but
> comes back on at boot. Any ideas?
>
> On 09/11/2016 06:21 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>>> On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote:
>>>> Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>>>>> Suddenly I have no sound.
>>>>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to
>>>>>> Opeth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pulseaudio is running:
>>>>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio
>>>>>> tony      2340  0.5  0.0 370052  6788 ?        S<l  12:24   0:01
>>>>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
>>>>>> tony      2402  0.0  0.0   4324   104 ?        S    12:24   0:00
>>>>>> /bin/sh
>>>>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
>>>>>> tony      3116  0.0  0.0  12720   964 pts/0    S+   12:28   0:00 grep
>>>>>> pulseaudio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is on Jessie,
>>>>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc.
>>>>>> I'm stumped.
>>>>>> ./tony
>>>>>
>>>>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem.
>>>>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine.
>>>>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound
>>>>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or
>>>>> the speakers.
>>>>> Still stumped
>>>>>
>>>>> ./tony
>>>>
>>>> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices
>>>> correctly
>>>> configured (and unmuted)
>>> I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils),
>>> but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume
>>> Contol, and found that analog output was muted.
>>> I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal),
>>> I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd
>>> totally forgotten in a minimized terminal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted.
>>>>
>>>> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it
>>>> stopped
>>>> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore?
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> forgot to mark this resolved...done now
>> Tony
>

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