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| Started by | Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-10 18:40 +0200 |
| Last post | 2016-11-13 22:10 +0100 |
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no sound? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-10 18:40 +0200
Re: no sound? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-10 19:40 +0200
Re: no sound? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 00:30 +0200
Re: no sound? Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-09-11 02:30 +0200
Resolved: no sound? Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-09-11 12:30 +0200
Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 14:40 +0100
Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 16:20 +0100
Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! "Anthony Baldwin" <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 19:30 +0100
Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 21:00 +0100
Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 22:00 +0100
Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 01:10 +0100
Resolvedagain: no sound again! Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-13 22:10 +0100
| From | Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-10 18:40 +0200 |
| Subject | no sound? |
| Message-ID | <sfTtT-2Br-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Suddenly I have no sound. Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to Opeth. Pulseaudio is running: ps aux | grep pulseaudio tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep pulseaudio This is on Jessie, Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. I'm stumped. ./tony -- http://tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time
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| From | Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-10 19:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sfUpX-39r-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #171991 |
On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: > Suddenly I have no sound. > Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to Opeth. > > Pulseaudio is running: > ps aux | grep pulseaudio > tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 > /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start > tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 /bin/sh > /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 > tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep > pulseaudio > > This is on Jessie, > Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. > I'm stumped. > ./tony I have verified that there is no hardware problem. I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine. Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or the speakers. Still stumped ./tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com translations, localization, multilingual web development EN, ES, FR, PT
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-11 00:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sfYWC-60u-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #171999 |
Anthony Baldwin wrote: > On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: >> Suddenly I have no sound. >> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to >> Opeth. >> >> Pulseaudio is running: >> ps aux | grep pulseaudio >> tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 >> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start >> tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 /bin/sh >> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 >> tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep >> pulseaudio >> >> This is on Jessie, >> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. >> I'm stumped. >> ./tony > > I have verified that there is no hardware problem. > I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine. > Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound > worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or > the speakers. > Still stumped > > ./tony I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly configured (and unmuted) Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted. This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it stopped or you rebooted and it was not there anymore? regards
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| From | Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-11 02:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sg0OJ-7oc-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172017 |
On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote: > Anthony Baldwin wrote: > >> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: >>> Suddenly I have no sound. >>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to >>> Opeth. >>> >>> Pulseaudio is running: >>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio >>> tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 >>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start >>> tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 /bin/sh >>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 >>> tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep >>> pulseaudio >>> >>> This is on Jessie, >>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. >>> I'm stumped. >>> ./tony >> >> I have verified that there is no hardware problem. >> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine. >> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound >> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or >> the speakers. >> Still stumped >> >> ./tony > > I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly > configured (and unmuted) I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils), but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume Contol, and found that analog output was muted. I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal), I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd totally forgotten in a minimized terminal. > Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted. > > This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it stopped > or you rebooted and it was not there anymore? > > regards > -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com translations, localization, multilingual web development EN, ES, FR, PT
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| From | Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-11 12:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Resolved: no sound? |
| Message-ID | <sgabn-4Ys-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172022 |
On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote: > On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote: >> Anthony Baldwin wrote: >> >>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: >>>> Suddenly I have no sound. >>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to >>>> Opeth. >>>> >>>> Pulseaudio is running: >>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio >>>> tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 >>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start >>>> tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 >>>> /bin/sh >>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 >>>> tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep >>>> pulseaudio >>>> >>>> This is on Jessie, >>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. >>>> I'm stumped. >>>> ./tony >>> >>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem. >>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine. >>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound >>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or >>> the speakers. >>> Still stumped >>> >>> ./tony >> >> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices correctly >> configured (and unmuted) > I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils), > but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume > Contol, and found that analog output was muted. > I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal), > I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd > totally forgotten in a minimized terminal. > > > >> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted. >> >> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it >> stopped >> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore? >> >> regards >> > > forgot to mark this resolved...done now Tony -- http://tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time
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| From | Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-13 14:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sD3aN-Px-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #172032 |
This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the next and there's no sound! Neither pavucontrol or alsamixer show anything muted. Last it seems a reboot (after successfully trying and succeeding to listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue. I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but comes back on at boot. Any ideas? On 09/11/2016 06:21 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote: > On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote: >> On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote: >>> Anthony Baldwin wrote: >>> >>>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: >>>>> Suddenly I have no sound. >>>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to >>>>> Opeth. >>>>> >>>>> Pulseaudio is running: >>>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio >>>>> tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 >>>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start >>>>> tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 >>>>> /bin/sh >>>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 >>>>> tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep >>>>> pulseaudio >>>>> >>>>> This is on Jessie, >>>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. >>>>> I'm stumped. >>>>> ./tony >>>> >>>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem. >>>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine. >>>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound >>>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or >>>> the speakers. >>>> Still stumped >>>> >>>> ./tony >>> >>> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices >>> correctly >>> configured (and unmuted) >> I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils), >> but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume >> Contol, and found that analog output was muted. >> I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal), >> I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd >> totally forgotten in a minimized terminal. >> >> >> >>> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted. >>> >>> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it >>> stopped >>> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore? >>> >>> regards >>> >> >> > > forgot to mark this resolved...done now > Tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com translations, localization, multilingual web development EN, ES, FR, PT
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-13 16:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sD4Jz-1X4-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174648 |
Anthony Baldwin wrote: > This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day > I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the > next and there's no sound! > Neither pavucontrol or alsamixer show anything muted. > Last it seems a reboot (after successfully trying and succeeding to > listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue. > I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but > comes back on at boot. Any ideas? yes it could be - some recent audio chips support power save - it could be that if not used for some time it goes into power save and does not wake up again. I think this is configurable in the bios, or per driver option(s). Check the manual for your chip and driver ex: Documentation/sound/alsa/powersave.txt regards
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| From | "Anthony Baldwin" <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-13 19:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sD7Hs-3ZQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174657 |
Definitely not a new chip...I built this machine in 2010, and It didn't have such problems with lenny, squeeze, or wheezy, just now with jessie, probably another thing systemd screwed up? Sorry for top posting but the gmx web mail isn' t letting me write beneath the message without marking my response as part of the prior msg to which I am replying. I'm using webmail from a livecd, because another thing that' s been Fscked on this Jessie system is I can never simply reboot, without using a live cd to check my disk with gparted several times, which I'm doing again now...Ridiculous...When did "stable" stop meaning "stable" and start meaning "useless"? Tony Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 3:11 PM From: deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! Anthony Baldwin wrote: > This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day > I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the > next and there's no sound! > Neither pavucontrol or alsamixer show anything muted. > Last it seems a reboot (after successfully trying and succeeding to > listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue. > I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but > comes back on at boot. Any ideas? yes it could be - some recent audio chips support power save - it could be that if not used for some time it goes into power save and does not wake up again. I think this is configurable in the bios, or per driver option(s). Check the manual for your chip and driver ex: Documentation/sound/alsa/powersave.txt regards -- http://www.tonybaldwin.me All Tony, all the time!
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-13 21:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sD96x-4KN-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174661 |
Anthony Baldwin wrote: > > Definitely not a new chip...I built this machine in 2010, and It didn't > have such problems with lenny, squeeze, or wheezy, just now with jessie, > probably another thing systemd screwed up? Sorry for top posting but the > gmx web mail isn' t letting me write beneath the message without marking > my response as part of the prior msg to which I am replying. > I'm using webmail from a livecd, because another thing that' s been > Fscked on this Jessie system is I can never simply reboot, without using a > live cd to check my disk with gparted several times, which I'm doing again > now...Ridiculous...When did "stable" stop meaning "stable" and start > meaning "useless"? > Hi Tony, there might be many causes for a specific result. It could be that the kernel supports your audio chip better than your old kernel. To me it looks like an issue with the configuration - either bios or kernel driver. Did you have a look in the document - perhaps check the document that matches your kernel version and heck the driver settings. You can eliminate systemd if you boot with init=/lib/sysvinit/init regards
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| From | Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-13 22:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sDa2C-5ot-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174664 |
On 11/13/2016 02:50 PM, deloptes wrote: > Anthony Baldwin wrote: > >> >> Definitely not a new chip...I built this machine in 2010, and It didn't >> have such problems with lenny, squeeze, or wheezy, just now with jessie, >> probably another thing systemd screwed up? Sorry for top posting but the >> gmx web mail isn' t letting me write beneath the message without marking >> my response as part of the prior msg to which I am replying. >> I'm using webmail from a livecd, because another thing that' s been >> Fscked on this Jessie system is I can never simply reboot, without using a >> live cd to check my disk with gparted several times, which I'm doing again >> now...Ridiculous...When did "stable" stop meaning "stable" and start >> meaning "useless"? >> > > Hi Tony, > there might be many causes for a specific result. It could be that the > kernel supports your audio chip better than your old kernel. To me it looks > like an issue with the configuration - either bios or kernel driver. > Did you have a look in the document - perhaps check the document that > matches your kernel version and heck the driver settings. I'm sorry, which document? I didn't understand this path: Documentation/sound/alsa/powersave.txt I have no Documentation directory that I can find, and `locate powersave.txt` shows nothing. > > You can eliminate systemd if you boot with init=/lib/sysvinit/init What do I do, put this somewhere in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or /etc/default/grub :wq ... doh! I guess that doesn't work in Icedove! tony > > regards > > -- http://tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 01:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Not Resolved: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sDd0t-7AM-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174668 |
Tony Baldwin wrote: > What do I do, put this somewhere in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or > /etc/default/grub if you put it in /etc/default/grub you need to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg try first /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then make it permanent for future grub updates via /etc/default/grub
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| From | Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-13 22:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Resolvedagain: no sound again! |
| Message-ID | <sDaci-5Hf-31@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174648 |
once again, a reboot (requiring a couple fskings) has brought the sound back. On 11/13/2016 08:20 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote: > This is the third time within the space of only two weeks, where one day > I'm happily listening to music on my machine one day. then I wake up the > next and there's no sound! > Neither pavucontrol nor alsamixer show anything muted. > Last time it seems a reboot (after successfully trying and succeeding to > listen with a livecd system) resolved the issue. > I can't help but think some module is being shut off overnight, but > comes back on at boot. Any ideas? > > On 09/11/2016 06:21 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote: >> On 09/10/2016 08:07 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote: >>> On 09/10/2016 06:24 PM, deloptes wrote: >>>> Anthony Baldwin wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 09/10/2016 12:35 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: >>>>>> Suddenly I have no sound. >>>>>> Dunno why. I did just two days ago, when I was happily listening to >>>>>> Opeth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pulseaudio is running: >>>>>> ps aux | grep pulseaudio >>>>>> tony 2340 0.5 0.0 370052 6788 ? S<l 12:24 0:01 >>>>>> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start >>>>>> tony 2402 0.0 0.0 4324 104 ? S 12:24 0:00 >>>>>> /bin/sh >>>>>> /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 >>>>>> tony 3116 0.0 0.0 12720 964 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep >>>>>> pulseaudio >>>>>> >>>>>> This is on Jessie, >>>>>> Speakers are properly plugged in, etc. >>>>>> I'm stumped. >>>>>> ./tony >>>>> >>>>> I have verified that there is no hardware problem. >>>>> I plugged the speakers into a phone and they worked fine. >>>>> Also, this machine has a 2nd hdd with win7 and I booted that and sound >>>>> worked fine, so there appears to be no problem with the sound card or >>>>> the speakers. >>>>> Still stumped >>>>> >>>>> ./tony >>>> >>>> I would check if pulseaudio has the proper input/output devices >>>> correctly >>>> configured (and unmuted) >>> I couldn't figure out how to do this (no man page for pulseaudio-utils), >>> but eventually found something in th lxmenu for Audio->Pulseaudio Volume >>> Contol, and found that analog output was muted. >>> I Unmuted it and was startled by the glorious sound of YOB (doom metal), >>> I had inadvertently left playing earlier in an instance of mocp I'd >>> totally forgotten in a minimized terminal. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Also check in alsamixer if something relevant is muted. >>>> >>>> This "Suddenly I have no sound" means what exactly: listening and it >>>> stopped >>>> or you rebooted and it was not there anymore? >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>> >>> >> >> forgot to mark this resolved...done now >> Tony > -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com translations, localization, multilingual web development EN, ES, FR, PT
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