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| Started by | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| First post | 2016-11-15 03:00 +0100 |
| Last post | 2016-11-15 21:30 +0100 |
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Movie problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-15 03:00 +0100
Re: Movie problem David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-11-15 04:20 +0100
Re: Movie problem Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 05:40 +0100
Re: Movie problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-15 11:00 +0100
Re: Movie problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-15 16:20 +0100
Re: Movie problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-15 16:30 +0100
Re: Movie problem "Victor A. Stoichita" <victor@svictor.net> - 2016-11-15 12:20 +0100
Re: Movie problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-15 17:00 +0100
Re: Movie problem Victor A. Stoichita <victor@svictor.net> - 2016-11-15 21:30 +0100
| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 03:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Movie problem |
| Message-ID | <sDBcu-6Lx-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Hi all; Background; Need to submit to the alibaba site, a movie demonstration the broken video coming out of an Orange-pi-plus-2e. Camera is a Sony Digital Hi-8 Handycam, firewire interface. Raw video is bulky as its a digital format, full resolution of 720x480. so its close to 6 gigabytes a running minute when captured over the firewire port. The only movie editor we have, that can also control this camera for start/stop/capture etc, is kino. No other movie prosessing utility we have has ever been in the same county as a firewire port Web submission site at aliexpress.com has no clue what to do with a a raw-dv file and refuses to take it as an evidence submission. Kino, as in running on a fully uptodate wheezy, apparently can't find ffmpeg to make the conversion when I attempt to export this 1 minutes worth of raw-dv format video. ffmpeg and all its friends are installed. But in kino, the whole page of mpeg4 options is ghosted out. Does anybody have a clue what I should sniff about for next? Thanks & Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 04:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDCrT-7P5-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174726 |
On 11/14/2016 05:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Need to submit to the alibaba site, a movie demonstration the broken > video coming out of an Orange-pi-plus-2e. > > Camera is a Sony Digital Hi-8 Handycam, firewire interface. One of the reasons I keep a working Windows XP system drive is for Windows Movie Maker. I used it to capture video from a Canon 720x480 DV camcorder with Firewire output. I could then edit as desired and output video in various formats and resolutions. David
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 05:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDDHj-8vG-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174726 |
On 11/14/2016 05:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Hi all; > > Background; > Need to submit to the alibaba site, a movie demonstration the broken > video coming out of an Orange-pi-plus-2e. > > Camera is a Sony Digital Hi-8 Handycam, firewire interface. > Raw video is bulky as its a digital format, full resolution of 720x480. > so its close to 6 gigabytes a running minute when captured over the > firewire port. > > The only movie editor we have, that can also control this camera for > start/stop/capture etc, is kino. No other movie prosessing utility we > have has ever been in the same county as a firewire port > > Web submission site at aliexpress.com has no clue what to do with a a > raw-dv file and refuses to take it as an evidence submission. > > Kino, as in running on a fully uptodate wheezy, apparently can't find > ffmpeg to make the conversion when I attempt to export this 1 minutes > worth of raw-dv format video. ffmpeg and all its friends are installed. > But in kino, the whole page of mpeg4 options is ghosted out. > > Does anybody have a clue what I should sniff about for next? > > Thanks & Cheers, Gene Heskett Gene you'll probable find what you need here, "deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ wheezy main non-free" regards, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 11:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDIGZ-3dJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174726 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 08:54:26PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Hi all; [...] > Kino, as in running on a fully uptodate wheezy, apparently can't find > ffmpeg to make the conversion when I attempt to export this 1 minutes > worth of raw-dv format video. ffmpeg and all its friends are installed. > But in kino, the whole page of mpeg4 options is ghosted out. There's a little trap around the last versions of Debian and ffmpeg. The default for ffmpeg changed from ffmpeg to libav and back (I can't remember at exactly which version). This may or may not contribute to yout kino problem. Otherwise, you might try to convert your video from the command line. Ffmpeg's man page seems daunting at first, but it's worth it, since most GUI video programs I've seen are extremely idiosyncratic. Either you fit the way they work or you're SOL (I don't fit most). Just ask if you need some help taming ffmpeg's command line (I'm no expert -- by a very long shot, but already carry some scars :-) regards - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlgq2ooACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZl3wCfS9HXkD6gK8pmcxw3ayoUOh2c fYQAn3r+kesIfCFjUVEgNV4ZKbbzDmm5 =xKa/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 16:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDNGF-6CK-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174736 |
On Tuesday 15 November 2016 04:51:06 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 08:54:26PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Hi all; > > [...] > > > Kino, as in running on a fully uptodate wheezy, apparently can't > > find ffmpeg to make the conversion when I attempt to export this 1 > > minutes worth of raw-dv format video. ffmpeg and all its friends > > are installed. But in kino, the whole page of mpeg4 options is > > ghosted out. > > There's a little trap around the last versions of Debian and ffmpeg. > The default for ffmpeg changed from ffmpeg to libav and back (I can't > remember at exactly which version). > > This may or may not contribute to yout kino problem. > > Otherwise, you might try to convert your video from the command line. > Ffmpeg's man page seems daunting at first, but it's worth it, since > most GUI video programs I've seen are extremely idiosyncratic. Either > you fit the way they work or you're SOL (I don't fit most). > > Just ask if you need some help taming ffmpeg's command line (I'm > no expert -- by a very long shot, but already carry some scars :-) > So do I from years past. But I found the web page with a list of kino's tools that kino uses, and installed all that would, and now the export menu is all alive and apparently well.. But, it turns out that aliexpress/alibaba has a broken refund request page, it takes all the data, including the filename of a 220 megabyte .avi I went to the trouble of making, but at the top of the page, where you are supposed to be able to click on "open a dispute" and fill out the rest of the page, those buttons do not respond, nor do they indicate why. So I am screwed, and will have to contest the charge on my card. Except my bank can't either for that charge, I just called them.. This is the 3rd time I've been screwed, total now north of $125, by this outfit over the last couple years, aliexpress/alibaba. It will NOT happen again. > regards > -- t Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 16:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDNQm-6Go-33@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174751 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:01:30AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 November 2016 04:51:06 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 08:54:26PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [ffmpeg] > So do I from years past. But I found the web page with a list of kino's > tools that kino uses, and installed all that would, and now the export > menu is all alive and apparently well.. All is well, then... > But, it turns out that aliexpress/alibaba has a broken refund request > page, it takes all the data, including the filename of a 220 > megabyte .avi [...] ... or nearly. Sorry to hear that. At least you could DOS them if you had enough data ;-) [1] (fond memories of the times people were punished by being sent the X sources, which were *much* smaller back then...) regards [1] No, I'm not serious. Really not. - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlgrJ6UACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZAwACffOl4dG0Y0nhpvF/NWwpRp6yc 0rYAn3IBnD/2AXyjXGTIfFsC/Un99oWl =xASm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | "Victor A. Stoichita" <victor@svictor.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 12:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDJWp-4cu-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174726 |
Hi Gene, > Camera is a Sony Digital Hi-8 Handycam, firewire interface. > Raw video is bulky as its a digital format, full resolution of > 720x480. so its close to 6 gigabytes a running minute when > captured over the firewire port. > > The only movie editor we have, that can also control this camera > for start/stop/capture etc, is kino. No other movie prosessing > utility we have has ever been in the same county as a firewire > port Did you try dvgrab? https://packages.debian.org/en/wheezy/dvgrab That’s what I use in commandline to capture Raw DV from my camera over firewire. I have an oldish Panasonic DV camera. Dvgrab knows perfectly how to start/stop it. I think dvgrab actually has some link to kino or the other way round. > > Web submission site at aliexpress.com has no clue what to do > with a a raw-dv file and refuses to take it as an > evidence submission. > > Kino, as in running on a fully uptodate wheezy, apparently can't > find ffmpeg to make the conversion when I attempt to export > this 1 minutes worth of raw-dv format video. ffmpeg and all > its friends are installed. But in kino, the whole page of mpeg4 > options is ghosted out. To convert from DV to mpeg4 you can use avidemux. It’s available on debian-multimedia.org, but it’s also easy to build it yourself if you don’t want to add a repo. Instructions here: http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=build:install_2.6 There’s an option to build directly a deb file. That’s what I use. Note that currently only the Qt interface seems to work on Jessie (GTK one segfaults at startup at least for me). Avidemux comes with its own implementation of ffmpeg. IIRC you must build and install its plugins too if you want mpeg4 conversion. In avidemux, the settings I use to get an acceptable mp4 for the web are: MPEG4-AVC for the video, AAC for audio, and of course MP4 as a container. I hope it helps. Good luck! Victor
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 17:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDOjn-6QT-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174739 |
On Tuesday 15 November 2016 06:08:44 Victor A. Stoichita wrote: > Hi Gene, > > > Camera is a Sony Digital Hi-8 Handycam, firewire interface. > > Raw video is bulky as its a digital format, full resolution of > > 720x480. so its close to 6 gigabytes a running minute when > > captured over the firewire port. > > > > The only movie editor we have, that can also control this camera > > for start/stop/capture etc, is kino. No other movie prosessing > > utility we have has ever been in the same county as a firewire > > port > > Did you try dvgrab? https://packages.debian.org/en/wheezy/dvgrab > That’s what I use in commandline to capture Raw DV from my camera > over firewire. I have an oldish Panasonic DV camera. Dvgrab knows > perfectly how to start/stop it. I think dvgrab actually has some > link to kino or the other way round. > > > Web submission site at aliexpress.com has no clue what to do > > with a a raw-dv file and refuses to take it as an > > evidence submission. > > > > Kino, as in running on a fully uptodate wheezy, apparently can't > > find ffmpeg to make the conversion when I attempt to export > > this 1 minutes worth of raw-dv format video. ffmpeg and all > > its friends are installed. But in kino, the whole page of mpeg4 > > options is ghosted out. > > To convert from DV to mpeg4 you can use avidemux. It’s available > on debian-multimedia.org, but it’s also easy to build it yourself > if you don’t want to add a repo. Instructions here: > http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=build:install_2.6 > There’s an option to build directly a deb file. That’s what I use. > Note that currently only the Qt interface seems to work on Jessie > (GTK one segfaults at startup at least for me). Avidemux comes > with its own implementation of ffmpeg. IIRC you must build and > install its plugins too if you want mpeg4 conversion. > > In avidemux, the settings I use to get an acceptable mp4 for the > web are: MPEG4-AVC for the video, AAC for audio, and of course MP4 > as a container. > > I hope it helps. Good luck! > > Victor The last time I looked at dvgrab, it had no camera controls, but I'll have to admit that was several years ago. But can it edit? kino can. Odd, I can't find it in the tde menu's, but synaptic says it is installed, but no docs. So I turned on the camera, and ran it from the cli. I found the camera, and generated a file, but it never started the camera in playback mode. Ack the manpage it needed a -i option. And I see that Dan Dennedy wrote both, so its possible that kino uses dvgrab to do the capture, Interesting. And you, Victor, should look at kino. :) Thanks. 0Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Victor A. Stoichita <victor@svictor.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 21:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sDSwG-1iC-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #174757 |
> The last time I looked at dvgrab, it had no camera controls, but I'll > have to admit that was several years ago. But can it edit? kino can. > > Odd, I can't find it in the tde menu's, but synaptic says it is > installed, but no docs. So I turned on the camera, and ran it from the > cli. I found the camera, and generated a file, but it never started the > camera in playback mode. Ack the manpage it needed a -i option. And I > see that Dan Dennedy wrote both, so its possible that kino uses dvgrab > to do the capture, Interesting. And you, Victor, should look at > kino. :) I’m glad you sort of made it work! Interactive camera controls are indeed behind the -i option in dvgrab. And you’re right, dvgrab can’t edit, it’s just an acquisition tool. I tried Kino some 10 years ago. I remember being a bit frustrated by frequent crashes and editing oddities. Your recommandation made me curious so I just checked Kino’s website. The last news dates back from 2013 and reads: > "Kino is a dead project > ( 05.08.2013 14:15 ) > Kino has not been actively maintained since 2009. We encourage you to > try other Linux video editors such as Shotcut, Kdenlive, Flowblade, > OpenShot, PiTiVi, LiVES, and LightWorks." In the last years I’ve been using Openshot for simple editing. It proved quite reliable. I also have an eye on PiTiVi but it still crashes too often on me. I haven’t tried the others in the list. For more complex stuff I managed to finish a couple of projects with Cinelerra, which could be worth considering as an option too. Cheers, Victor
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