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  Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-04 20:30 +0100
    Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 21:10 +0100
      Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-06 17:50 +0100
        Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 19:10 +0100
        Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 00:20 +0100
          Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-10 12:00 +0100
            Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-10 12:30 +0100
              Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-10 14:50 +0100
                Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-10 15:00 +0100
                  Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-10 15:30 +0100
                    Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-10 15:50 +0100
            Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 16:00 +0100
              Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-11-10 16:20 +0100
              Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-10 16:50 +0100
                Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 18:00 +0100
                Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-11 00:10 +0100
              Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-11 00:00 +0100
                Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 03:20 +0100
                Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-11-11 11:10 +0100
                  Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 12:50 +0100
                  Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-11 19:20 +0100
                    Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-11-12 11:20 +0100
                      Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-11-12 12:00 +0100
                        Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-11-12 12:20 +0100
                        Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 14:30 +0100
            Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-11-10 21:00 +0100
              Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-11 00:10 +0100
                Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-11-11 05:00 +0100
                  Re: Problem attempting to use xorriso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-11-11 09:10 +0100

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#174507

On Friday 11 November 2016 05:07:42 Curt wrote:

> On 2016-11-10, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> > It may be close, I pre-date the Harvard MarkI. I am definitely
> > older than Linus Torvalds father ;)
>
> Is this the senile equivalent of a pissing contest? Or the pissing
> equivalent of a senile contest?

And at 82, I suspect I am the older, but with a psa in the 10+ range, I 
don't enter any pissing contests. :(

How the heck did this thread degenerate to this?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#174578

On 2016-11-11, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> On Friday 11 November 2016 05:07:42 Curt wrote:
>
>> On 2016-11-10, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>> > It may be close, I pre-date the Harvard MarkI. I am definitely
>> > older than Linus Torvalds father ;)
>>
>> Is this the senile equivalent of a pissing contest? Or the pissing
>> equivalent of a senile contest?
>
> And at 82, I suspect I am the older, but with a psa in the 10+ range, I 
> don't enter any pissing contests. :(

Well, I think the general rule is there's always somebody older than you
no matter how old you are, unless you find yourself in the
exceptional case of being the oldest in the whole wide world (a fate I
would wish upon you, except that I've remarked that those in the running
pushing 120 years, wheel-chair ridden and pretty much deaf, blind and
toothless, seem to be enjoying a fate I wouldn't wish on anyone).

> How the heck did this thread degenerate to this?

I degenerated it, I'm afraid.

> Cheers, Gene Heskett


-- 
“It is enough that the arrows fit exactly in the wounds that they have made.”
Franz Kafka

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#174580

Hi,

[pissing contest and associated difficulties]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> > How the heck did this thread degenerate to this?

Curt wrote:
> I degenerated it, I'm afraid.

An uprise of the progressive youth against us old farts ?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/53/ca/af/53caafee1d123414aa9d431aab2ca414.jpg


Maybe one should install a warning sign at the archive to tell
future readers that there is nearly no info about xorriso in this
thread.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#174581

On Saturday 12 November 2016 05:50:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> [pissing contest and associated difficulties]
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > How the heck did this thread degenerate to this?
>
> Curt wrote:
> > I degenerated it, I'm afraid.
>
> An uprise of the progressive youth against us old farts ?

Probably.  Now where did I put my LART. :)

> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/53/ca/af/53caafee1d123414aa9
>d431aab2ca414.jpg
>
>
> Maybe one should install a warning sign at the archive to tell
> future readers that there is nearly no info about xorriso in this
> thread.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#174583

On Saturday 12 November 2016 10:50:42 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Maybe one should install a warning sign at the archive to tell
> future readers that there is nearly no info about xorriso in this
> thread.

17 about xorriso and permissions (presenting problem often not the real 
problem, and that may apply also to archive searchers)

6 definitely entirely OT and/or unsuitable for sensitive ears.

Lisi

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#174484

On Thu 10 Nov 2016 at 04:53:47 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:

> Yes, but not in the context of a sub-project from last few days.
> I suspect what I aiming at might look like - the groups and
> permission bits set at time partition created, thus avoiding games
> with /etc/fstab .
> 
> richard@jessie-defaults:~$
> richard@jessie-defaults:~$ ls -l /dev/sd*
> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  0 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda
> brw-rw---- 1 root owl  8,  1 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda1
> brw-rw-r-- 1 root owl  8,  2 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda2
> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  3 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda3
> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  5 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda5
> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb
> br--rw-r-- 1 root owl  8, 17 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb1

    ↑ is there a purpose behind the missing w ?

Cheers,
David.

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#174488

On 11/10/2016 1:52 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 10 Nov 2016 at 04:53:47 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> Yes, but not in the context of a sub-project from last few days.
>> I suspect what I aiming at might look like - the groups and
>> permission bits set at time partition created, thus avoiding games
>> with /etc/fstab .
>>
>> richard@jessie-defaults:~$
>> richard@jessie-defaults:~$ ls -l /dev/sd*
>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  0 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda
>> brw-rw---- 1 root owl  8,  1 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda1
>> brw-rw-r-- 1 root owl  8,  2 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda2
>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  3 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda3
>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  5 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda5
>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb
>> br--rw-r-- 1 root owl  8, 17 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb1
>
>      ↑ is there a purpose behind the missing w ?
>
> Cheers,
> David.

Yes. My rational is in my rather verbose post
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00361.html .
Linux evidently does not do things "my way" [apologies to a fast 
food chain].

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#174490

On Thu 10 Nov 2016 at 17:05:06 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 1:52 PM, David Wright wrote:
> >On Thu 10 Nov 2016 at 04:53:47 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>Yes, but not in the context of a sub-project from last few days.
> >>I suspect what I aiming at might look like - the groups and
> >>permission bits set at time partition created, thus avoiding games
> >>with /etc/fstab .
> >>
> >>richard@jessie-defaults:~$
> >>richard@jessie-defaults:~$ ls -l /dev/sd*
> >>brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  0 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda
> >>brw-rw---- 1 root owl  8,  1 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda1
> >>brw-rw-r-- 1 root owl  8,  2 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda2
> >>brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  3 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda3
> >>brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  5 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda5
> >>brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb
> >>br--rw-r-- 1 root owl  8, 17 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb1
> >
> >     ↑ is there a purpose behind the missing w ?
> 
> Yes. My rational is in my rather verbose post
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00361.html .
> Linux evidently does not do things "my way" [apologies to a fast
> food chain].

Should I take it that last sentence means you are aware root can write
over a file even if the permission is --------- , let alone r-------- ,
so you have no precaution as well as no protection.

Cheers,
David.

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#174491

On 11/10/2016 9:49 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 10 Nov 2016 at 17:05:06 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 11/10/2016 1:52 PM, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Thu 10 Nov 2016 at 04:53:47 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, but not in the context of a sub-project from last few days.
>>>> I suspect what I aiming at might look like - the groups and
>>>> permission bits set at time partition created, thus avoiding games
>>>> with /etc/fstab .
>>>>
>>>> richard@jessie-defaults:~$
>>>> richard@jessie-defaults:~$ ls -l /dev/sd*
>>>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  0 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda
>>>> brw-rw---- 1 root owl  8,  1 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda1
>>>> brw-rw-r-- 1 root owl  8,  2 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda2
>>>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  3 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda3
>>>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  5 Nov 10 03:35 /dev/sda5
>>>> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb
>>>> br--rw-r-- 1 root owl  8, 17 Nov 10 04:43 /dev/sdb1
>>>
>>>      ↑ is there a purpose behind the missing w ?
>>
>> Yes. My rational is in my rather verbose post
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00361.html .
>> Linux evidently does not do things "my way" [apologies to a fast
>> food chain].
>
> Should I take it that last sentence means you are aware root can write
> over a file even if the permission is --------- , let alone r-------- ,
> so you have no precaution as well as no protection.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

It was a description of what I wanted, not what I could get. I 
suspect thinking in detail about "corner cases" is a good education.

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