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  sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 17:10 +0100
    Re: sound disappeared Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 17:40 +0100
      Re: sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 17:50 +0100
        Re: sound disappeared Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 18:20 +0100
      Re: sound disappeared Alberto Luaces <aluaces@udc.es> - 2016-11-08 18:10 +0100
        Re: sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 19:20 +0100
          Re: sound disappeared Alberto Luaces <aluaces@udc.es> - 2016-11-08 19:30 +0100
            Re: sound disappeared Alberto Luaces <aluaces@udc.es> - 2016-11-08 19:40 +0100
              Re: sound disappeared Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 20:10 +0100
              Re: sound disappeared Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 20:30 +0100
                Re: sound disappeared Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 00:10 +0100
                  Re: sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-09 00:20 +0100
            Re: sound disappeared Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 20:10 +0100
              Re: sound disappeared Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-11-08 20:30 +0100
                Re: sound disappeared "Anthony Baldwin" <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 21:10 +0100
              Re: sound disappeared Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 20:40 +0100
                Re: sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 21:50 +0100
      Re: sound disappeared Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 18:10 +0100
        Re: sound disappeared tonybaldwin@gmx.com - 2016-11-08 21:10 +0100
    Re: sound disappeared Václav Ovsík <vaclav.ovsik@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 21:10 +0100
      Re: sound disappeared Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-11-08 22:00 +0100
        Re: sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-08 22:50 +0100
          Re: sound disappeared Václav Ovsík <vaclav.ovsik@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 23:10 +0100
      Re: sound disappeared Václav Ovsík <vaclav.ovsik@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 23:00 +0100
        Resolved: sound disappeared Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> - 2016-11-09 23:30 +0100
          Re: Resolved: sound disappeared Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-11-10 10:50 +0100
            Re: Resolved: sound disappeared Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-10 16:50 +0100
    Re: sound disappeared Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-11-09 18:40 +0100

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#174348 — sound disappeared

Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT 
Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.

What happened?

TIA
Tony
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#174349

On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.

Someone is going to ask, so:
yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same speakers, 
plugged into the phone.
They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged them 
from there and plugged them into my phone.
Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't 
hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers.

>
> What happened?
>
> TIA
> Tony

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#174350

On 11/08/2016 11:17 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>
>
> On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
>> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
>> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
>> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
>
> Someone is going to ask, so:
> yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
> I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same speakers,
> plugged into the phone.
> They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged them
> from there and plugged them into my phone.
> Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
> I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
> I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers.
>
>>
>> What happened?

Okay, I take it back, I must have installed something yesterday but do 
not recall what.
all I get for yesterday from /var/log/aptitude is this

[INSTALL] pidgin-skype-common:amd64
===============================================================================

Log complete.
Aptitude 0.6.11: log report
Sun, Nov  6 2016 12:07:26 -0500

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
dpkg problems may not be completed.

Will install 1 packages, and remove 0 packages.
483 kB of disk space will be used
===============================================================================

[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavcodec57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavdevice57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavfilter6:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavformat57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavresample3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavutil55:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libbind9-90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libdns100:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisc95:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccc90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccfg90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] liblwres90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libpostproc54:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswresample2:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswscale4:amd64
[HOLD] bind9-host:amd64
[HOLD] curl:amd64
[HOLD] dnsutils:amd64
[HOLD] ffmpeg:amd64
[HOLD] google-chrome-stable:amd64
[HOLD] host:amd64
[HOLD] libdns-export100:amd64
[HOLD] libirs-export91:amd64
[HOLD] libisc-export95:amd64
[HOLD] libisccfg-export90:amd64
aptitude

I removed pidgin-skype-common, and there's been no change.

Tony

>>
>> TIA
>> Tony
>

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#174354

On 11/08/2016 11:48 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
>
> On 11/08/2016 11:17 AM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
>>> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
>>> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
>>> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
>>
>> Someone is going to ask, so:
>> yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
>> I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same speakers,
>> plugged into the phone.
>> They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged them
>> from there and plugged them into my phone.
>> Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
>> I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
>> I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
>> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the
>> speakers.
>>
>>>
>>> What happened?
>
> Okay, I take it back, I must have installed something yesterday but do
> not recall what.
> all I get for yesterday from /var/log/aptitude is this
>
Wait...I sent log material from 06/11 (two days ago, not yesterday).
I installed ripperx ysterday, and this is the relevant aptitude log 
stuff here:

Log complete.
Aptitude 0.6.11: log report
Mon, Nov  7 2016 07:49:45 -0500

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
dpkg problems may not be completed.

Will install 0 packages, and remove 0 packages.
===============================================================================
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavcodec57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavdevice57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavfilter6:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavformat57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavresample3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavutil55:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libbind9-90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libdns100:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisc95:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccc90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccfg90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] liblwres90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libpostproc54:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswresample2:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswscale4:amd64
[HOLD] bind9-host:amd64
[HOLD] curl:amd64
[HOLD] dnsutils:amd64
[HOLD] ffmpeg:amd64
[HOLD] google-chrome-stable:amd64
[HOLD] host:amd64
[HOLD] libdns-export100:amd64
[HOLD] libirs-export91:amd64
[HOLD] libisc-export95:amd64
[HOLD] libisccfg-export90:amd64
[HOLD] tar:amd64
===============================================================================

Log complete.
Aptitude 0.6.11: log report
Mon, Nov  7 2016 11:59:30 -0500

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
dpkg problems may not be completed.

Will install 3 packages, and remove 0 packages.
1,614 kB of disk space will be used
===============================================================================
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavcodec57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavdevice57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavfilter6:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavformat57:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavresample3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libavutil55:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libbind9-90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libdns100:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisc95:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccc90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libisccfg90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] liblwres90:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libpostproc54:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswresample2:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libswscale4:amd64
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] cdparanoia:amd64
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] vorbis-tools:amd64
[HOLD] bind9-host:amd64
[HOLD] curl:amd64
[HOLD] dnsutils:amd64
[HOLD] ffmpeg:amd64
[HOLD] google-chrome-stable:amd64
[HOLD] host:amd64
[HOLD] libdns-export100:amd64
[HOLD] libirs-export91:amd64
[HOLD] libisc-export95:amd64
[HOLD] libisccfg-export90:amd64
[HOLD] tar:amd64
[INSTALL] ripperx:amd64
===============================================================================

>
> I removed pidgin-skype-common, and there's been no change.
>
> Tony
>
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Tony
>>
>

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#174352

Anthony Baldwin writes:

> On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
>> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
>> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
>> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
>
> Someone is going to ask, so:
> yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
> I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same
> speakers, plugged into the phone.
> They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged
> them from there and plugged them into my phone.
> Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
> I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
> I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the
> speakers.
>

It happens to me that after a reboot the output of PulseAudio is being
redirected to a digital output, which I cannot hear.  Unplugging and
plugging again my speakers makes the thing discover again the analog
output and solves the issue, but I see you have already plugged and
unplugged several speakers.

I would nevertheless inspect pavucontrol to see which output is active.

-- 
Alberto

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#174358

On 11/08/2016 12:06 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
> Anthony Baldwin writes:
>
>> On 11/08/2016 11:04 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
>>> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
>>> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
>>> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
>>
>> Someone is going to ask, so:
>> yes, the speakers are plugged in and appropriately powered.
>> I am right now listening to music from my phone using the same
>> speakers, plugged into the phone.
>> They were plugged into the mobo's onboard audio before I unplugged
>> them from there and plugged them into my phone.
>> Nothing has changed on the hardware since I was last listening to sound.
>> I haven't made any relevant/significant software changes either.
>> I've also tried to plug some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
>> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the
>> speakers.
>>
>
> It happens to me that after a reboot the output of PulseAudio is being
> redirected to a digital output, which I cannot hear.  Unplugging and
> plugging again my speakers makes the thing discover again the analog
> output and solves the issue, but I see you have already plugged and
> unplugged several speakers.
>
> I would nevertheless inspect pavucontrol to see which output is active.

looks like
Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:

http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg

what you can  see is line above  "advanced"moving up and down (okay, 
really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't hear).

It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing 
ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had 
installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in at 
6am this morning I had no sound


Thanks,
Tony

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#174359

Tony Baldwin writes:

> looks like
> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>
> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>

Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.

>
> what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
> really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
> hear).
>
> It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
> ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
> installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
> at 6am this morning I had no sound

Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
changes with it.

-- 
Alberto

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#174360

Alberto Luaces writes:

> Tony Baldwin writes:
>
>> looks like
>> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
>> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>>
>> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>>
>
> Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.
>

By the way: in pavucontrol, when you play music, can you see the name of
the program playing and a moving sound bar in the "playback" tab?

-- 
Alberto

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#174365

On 11/08/2016 01:29 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
> Alberto Luaces writes:
>
>> Tony Baldwin writes:
>>
>>> looks like
>>> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
>>> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>>>
>>> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.
>>
>
> By the way: in pavucontrol, when you play music, can you see the name of
> the program playing and a moving sound bar in the "playback" tab?

I do, it shows
ALSA plug-in [mocp]: ALSA Playback,
and the bar below the channel volume controls fluctuates with the audio 
supposedly playing.

./tony


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#174368

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On 11/08/2016 01:29 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
> Alberto Luaces writes:
>
>> Tony Baldwin writes:
>>
>>> looks like
>>> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
>>> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>>>
>>> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.
>>
>
> By the way: in pavucontrol, when you play music, can you see the name of
> the program playing and a moving sound bar in the "playback" tab?

I did
pulseaudio --dump-modules -v > pavumods.txt

and in there, I find:
Name: module-detect
Version: 5.0
Description: Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers
Author: Lennart Poettering
Usage: just-one=<boolean>
Load Once: yes
DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-detect

I don't know where/how to acquire and enable module-udev-detect.\
an aptitude search for it shows nothing, I can only assume it comes with 
some other pkg.

I also find another warning:
Name: module-combine
Version: 5.0
Description: Compatibility module (module-combine rename)
Author: Colin Guthrie
Load Once: no
DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-combine-sink instead of 
module-combine!
Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-combine

and have the same issue, an aptitude search for module-combine produces 
no result.


>

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#174397

On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 02:11:14PM -0500, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> I did
> pulseaudio --dump-modules -v > pavumods.txt
> 
> and in there, I find:
> Name: module-detect
> Version: 5.0
> Description: Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers
> Author: Lennart Poettering
> Usage: just-one=<boolean>
> Load Once: yes
> DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
> Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-detect
> 
> I don't know where/how to acquire and enable module-udev-detect.\
> an aptitude search for it shows nothing, I can only assume it comes with
> some other pkg.
> 
> I also find another warning:
> Name: module-combine
> Version: 5.0
> Description: Compatibility module (module-combine rename)
> Author: Colin Guthrie
> Load Once: no
> DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-combine-sink instead of
> module-combine!
> Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-combine
> 
> and have the same issue, an aptitude search for module-combine produces no
> result.

apt-file search module-combine shows that both module-combine and 
module-combine-sink are in the pulseaudio package, so likely already 
installed.

apt-file search module-udev and apt-file search module-detect show that 
they are also in the pulseaudio package.

apt-file is a really useful tool for answering questions like "what 
files are in this package?", "What package is this file in?", and "Where 
the hell did this file come from?"

Mark

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#174399

On 11/08/2016 06:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 02:11:14PM -0500, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>> I did
>> pulseaudio --dump-modules -v > pavumods.txt
>>
>> and in there, I find:
>> Name: module-detect
>> Version: 5.0
>> Description: Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers
>> Author: Lennart Poettering
>> Usage: just-one=<boolean>
>> Load Once: yes
>> DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
>> Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-detect
>>
>> I don't know where/how to acquire and enable module-udev-detect.\
>> an aptitude search for it shows nothing, I can only assume it comes with
>> some other pkg.
>>
>> I also find another warning:
>> Name: module-combine
>> Version: 5.0
>> Description: Compatibility module (module-combine rename)
>> Author: Colin Guthrie
>> Load Once: no
>> DEPRECATION WARNING: Please use module-combine-sink instead of
>> module-combine!
>> Path: /usr/lib/pulse-5.0/modules/module-combine
>>
>> and have the same issue, an aptitude search for module-combine produces no
>> result.
>
> apt-file search module-combine shows that both module-combine and
> module-combine-sink are in the pulseaudio package, so likely already
> installed.
>
> apt-file search module-udev and apt-file search module-detect show that
> they are also in the pulseaudio package.
>
> apt-file is a really useful tool for answering questions like "what
> files are in this package?", "What package is this file in?", and "Where
> the hell did this file come from?"

I'll have to remember that (apt-file) for future reference, looks 
really, really useful.
Thanks,
tony
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#174362

On 11/08/2016 01:22 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
> Tony Baldwin writes:
>
>> looks like
>> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
>> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>>
>> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>>
>
> Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.
>
>>
>> what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
>> really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
>> hear).
>>
>> It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
>> ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
>> installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
>> at 6am this morning I had no sound
>
> Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
> changes with it.

never even heard of it, had to do aptitude search and show to learn what 
it is even.
I suppose it's probably too late (as far as diagnosing this current 
problem anyway) to install it now...
perhaps I should install it for future uses.
I hthink I may try and boot to a live system and see what happens as 
Lisi suggested,
I'm going to assume some change affected by aptitude activity in the 
past 24 hours is most likely to blame, and really hope it's not my 
mobo's on-board audio.
I have a spare video card in my desk, but no audio card.
Going through all the hassle of finding one compatible with my hardware 
and system is a little more involved then fixing a software issue.
I think just about any PCI sound card should work with Debian, and my 
hardware, though, unless I'm mistaken. I have a couple open PCI slots.

I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for 
workout time, and I'm bummed.

Thanks,
Tony
>

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#174369

On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:49:14 -0500
Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> wrote:


> 
> I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for 
> workout time, and I'm bummed.
> 

Boot a live CD, then.

When this happens to me, it's because I have more than one sound
device, and the coin lands on a different side one day and another
one is designated the default.

There is allegedly a way to prevent this happening, but it is
sufficiently involved (nothing as simple as adding a string to a
configuration file, or ticking a GUI box) that I can't be bothered,
because I'll have to learn how to do it again in a different way in
another six months. Sound under Linux is a moving target.

If you have more than one sound device (if you have an HDMI socket,
there is a sound device associated with that) try:

Have a look in /proc/asound/cards to find the current card order.

Look in /etc/asound.conf to see if the xxx.!default options match what
your speakers are connected to. If you don't have this file you might
try creating it. Mine looks like:

pcm.!default {
    type hw
    card 0
}

ctl.!default {
    type hw           
    card 0
}

Currently the card designated 0 is the one I want to use, out of three.
But the numbering might change tomorrow.

-- 
Joe

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#174380

 
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 at 7:28 PM
From: Joe <joe@jretrading.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: sound disappeared

On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:49:14 -0500
Anthony Baldwin <baldwinlinguas@gmx.com> wrote:


>
> I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for
> workout time, and I'm bummed.
>

Boot a live CD, then.

When this happens to me, it's because I have more than one sound
device, and the coin lands on a different side one day and another
one is designated the default.

There is allegedly a way to prevent this happening, but it is
sufficiently involved (nothing as simple as adding a string to a
configuration file, or ticking a GUI box) that I can't be bothered,
because I'll have to learn how to do it again in a different way in
another six months. Sound under Linux is a moving target.

If you have more than one sound device (if you have an HDMI socket,
there is a sound device associated with that) try:

Have a look in /proc/asound/cards to find the current card order.

Look in /etc/asound.conf to see if the xxx.!default options match what
your speakers are connected to. If you don't have this file you might
try creating it. Mine looks like:

pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

ctl.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

Currently the card designated 0 is the one I want to use, out of three.
But the numbering might change tomorrow.
 
I  have only one sound device/card, it's onboard the mobo.
Thanks for chiming in, though.

Tony
--
http://www.tonybaldwin.me
All Tony, all the time!

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#174371

On 11/08/2016 01:49 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>
>
> On 11/08/2016 01:22 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
>> Tony Baldwin writes:
>>
>>> looks like
>>> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
>>> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>>>
>>> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.
>>
>>>
>>> what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
>>> really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
>>> hear).
>>>
>>> It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
>>> ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
>>> installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
>>> at 6am this morning I had no sound
>>
>> Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
>> changes with it.
>
> never even heard of it, had to do aptitude search and show to learn what
> it is even.
> I suppose it's probably too late (as far as diagnosing this current
> problem anyway) to install it now...
> perhaps I should install it for future uses.
> I hthink I may try and boot to a live system and see what happens as
> Lisi suggested,
> I'm going to assume some change affected by aptitude activity in the
> past 24 hours is most likely to blame, and really hope it's not my
> mobo's on-board audio.
> I have a spare video card in my desk, but no audio card.
> Going through all the hassle of finding one compatible with my hardware
> and system is a little more involved then fixing a software issue.
> I think just about any PCI sound card should work with Debian, and my
> hardware, though, unless I'm mistaken. I have a couple open PCI slots.
>
> I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for
> workout time, and I'm bummed.

I had a bunch of trouble with my sound system for awhile, running sid. I 
had to use alsamixer several times before pulse would behave. I could 
boot to my xubuntu partition and had no problems. So, I hold my nose and 
spend more time there. :) Ric


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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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#174384

On 11/08/2016 02:39 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/08/2016 01:49 PM, Anthony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/08/2016 01:22 PM, Alberto Luaces wrote:
>>> Tony Baldwin writes:
>>>
>>>> looks like
>>>> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Line Out (plugged in)
>>>> Here's a screen-shot of pavucontrol:
>>>>
>>>> http://tonybaldwin.me/images/pavucontrol110816124906.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> Analog Line Out for me as well, so that part could be covered.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> what you can see is line above "advanced"moving up and down (okay,
>>>> really right and left) with the doom metal I have playing (but can't
>>>> hear).
>>>>
>>>> It should be known that I still had sound yesterday after installing
>>>> ripperx, for hours, right up to 11 pm last night (looks like I had
>>>> installed it around 12pmish, 11 hours earlier), but when I logged in
>>>> at 6am this morning I had no sound
>>>
>>> Are you by chance using etckeeper?  You could inspect configuration
>>> changes with it.
>>
>> never even heard of it, had to do aptitude search and show to learn what
>> it is even.
>> I suppose it's probably too late (as far as diagnosing this current
>> problem anyway) to install it now...
>> perhaps I should install it for future uses.
>> I hthink I may try and boot to a live system and see what happens as
>> Lisi suggested,
>> I'm going to assume some change affected by aptitude activity in the
>> past 24 hours is most likely to blame, and really hope it's not my
>> mobo's on-board audio.
>> I have a spare video card in my desk, but no audio card.
>> Going through all the hassle of finding one compatible with my hardware
>> and system is a little more involved then fixing a software issue.
>> I think just about any PCI sound card should work with Debian, and my
>> hardware, though, unless I'm mistaken. I have a couple open PCI slots.
>>
>> I really need to hear my Opeth (Swedish Death Metal!! \m/ ) now, for
>> workout time, and I'm bummed.
>
> I had a bunch of trouble with my sound system for awhile, running sid. I
> had to use alsamixer several times before pulse would behave. I could
> boot to my xubuntu partition and had no problems. So, I hold my nose and
> spend more time there. :) Ric
>


I got the system back up! and am listening to Opeth again now(meaning, 
yes, that I HAVE SOUND BACK)! still no idea why I'd lost it, though.

./tony
bash: ./tony: No such file or directory

But I'm right here! honest!
bash: ./but: No such file or directory

-- 
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

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#174353

On Tuesday 08 November 2016 16:17:20 Anthony Baldwin wrote:
> I've also tried to plu some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't
> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers.

But it could be the on-board audio.  Have you tried with a Live CD?

Lisi

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#174378

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 at 5:01 PM
From: "Lisi Reisz" <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: sound disappeared
On Tuesday 08 November 2016 16:17:20 Anthony Baldwin wrote: 
>> I've also tried to plug some earbuds into the on-board audio, and can't 
>> hear anything through those, either. so the problem can't be the speakers. 
> But it could be the on-board audio. Have you tried with a Live CD? 
> Lisi
 
I'm on a LiveCD system now, and sound works, so it's not the hardware.
And my installed/personalised system (as mentioned earlier, and now, in another thread),
refuses to reboot.

--
http://www.tonybaldwin.me
All Tony, all the time!

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#174374

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:04:23AM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Yesterday, I was listening to music with mocp, and watching videos on YT
> Without issue, and today, for no apparent reason, I've lost all sound.
> I can't hear modp, smplayer, vlc, youtube, nothing.
> I checked alsamixer and pavucontrol, nothing is muted.
> 
> What happened?

hmm, I have some issues with audio too. I hear no sounds of Pidgin IM
client or cutted very short clips.
I think this it is within last pulseaudio upgrade

Aptitude 0.8.3: log report
Mon, Nov  7 2016 16:28:03 +0100
...
[UPGRADE] libpulse-dev:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
[UPGRADE] libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
[UPGRADE] libpulse0:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
[UPGRADE] libpulsedsp:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
...
[UPGRADE] pulseaudio-utils:amd64 9.0-4 -> 9.0-5
...

-- 
Zito

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