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  Re: Debian repository: no updates for PygreSQL package Tony Baldwin <tonybaldwin@gmx.com> - 2016-11-09 15:40 +0100
    Re: Debian repository: no updates for PygreSQL package Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 01:10 +0100
      Re: Debian repository: no updates for PygreSQL package Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-11-10 02:10 +0100
      Re: Debian repository: no updates for PygreSQL package Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2016-11-10 15:10 +0100

#174422 — Re: Debian repository: no updates for PygreSQL package

On 11/09/2016 06:59 AM, Loren Dvid wrote:
> Hello,
> In debian 6.0 and 7.0 the latest stable version of PygreSQL package is 4.0
> http://www.pygresql.org/contents/changelog.html
> This version is from 2009. The newest stable version is 5.0.2
> Why the repository is not being updated?
>

This is common in the Stable release.
If you want the latest pkgs, you need to use testing (stretch) or 
experimental/unstable (sid)
For some things, you can get newer pkgs from backports:
see https://backports.debian.org/
Or, for some things, sometimes you can get away with installing upstream 
pkgs (from the actual project/developers).
this is what I do for OmegaT, which is important for my work, and it's 
only dependency is a working jre. The current upstream release is 3.06, 
whereas the version in Jessie is still 2.3, which is several years old. 
with some things you really have to be careful about dependency 
conflicts if you try to use upstream pkgs.


see https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html

./tony
-- 
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

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#174448

On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 09:32:46AM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2016 06:59 AM, Loren Dvid wrote:
> >Hello,
> >In debian 6.0 and 7.0 the latest stable version of PygreSQL package is 4.0
> >http://www.pygresql.org/contents/changelog.html
> >This version is from 2009. The newest stable version is 5.0.2
> >Why the repository is not being updated?
> >
> 
> This is common in the Stable release.
> If you want the latest pkgs, you need to use testing (stretch) or
> experimental/unstable (sid)
> For some things, you can get newer pkgs from backports:
> see https://backports.debian.org/
> Or, for some things, sometimes you can get away with installing upstream
> pkgs (from the actual project/developers).
> this is what I do for OmegaT, which is important for my work, and it's only
> dependency is a working jre. The current upstream release is 3.06, whereas
> the version in Jessie is still 2.3, which is several years old. with some
> things you really have to be careful about dependency conflicts if you try
> to use upstream pkgs.
> 
> 
> see https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html
> 

The OP wasn't even talking about stable, he mentioned Debian 6 and 7, 
which are prehistoric and ancient, respectively. (loved 'em both, in 
their day -- but now is not their day)

I'd turn the question back around and ask the OP, why do you expect 
long-since end-of-life versions of Debian to be updated with new 
software?

Current stable is Debian 8 (Jessie). And it is not likely to pick up new 
versions either. It became stable a couple of years back (sorry I don't 
remember exactly when and don't have time to look it up, but you can see 
on Debian's website). To get updated software you need to be using 
testing or unstable.

Mark

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#174451

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On 10/11/16 13:01, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 09:32:46AM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/09/2016 06:59 AM, Loren Dvid wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> In debian 6.0 and 7.0 the latest stable version of PygreSQL package is 4.0
>>> http://www.pygresql.org/contents/changelog.html
>>> This version is from 2009. The newest stable version is 5.0.2
>>> Why the repository is not being updated?
>>>
>>
>> This is common in the Stable release.
>> If you want the latest pkgs, you need to use testing (stretch) or
>> experimental/unstable (sid)

...

> 
> The OP wasn't even talking about stable, he mentioned Debian 6 and 7, 
> which are prehistoric and ancient, respectively. (loved 'em both, in 
> their day -- but now is not their day)

...

All that would be valid, except jessie, stretch and sid still have 4.0.

But if you look at the debian changelog, you'll see the package was
orphaned in 2011. It probably just gets security updates now.

I'm not a python programmer, but from the sources below it seems that
Psycopg2 is now the most popular option. It seems reasonably likely that
the previous maintainer switched to that.

Richard

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#174466

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 09:01:22AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> Current stable is Debian 8 (Jessie). And it is not likely to pick up new 
> versions either. It became stable a couple of years back (sorry I don't 
> remember exactly when and don't have time to look it up, but you can see 
> on Debian's website).

Remember, remember,
The Fifth of November,
Gunpowder treason and plot;
For I see no reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.

Jessie was frozen on November 5, 2014.  The date is also known as Guy
Fawkes Day in the UK.

Stretch's "transition freeze" was initiated on November 5, 2016.
Or at least it was supposed to have been.

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