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| Started by | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| First post | 2016-08-17 16:50 +0200 |
| Last post | 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200 |
| Articles | 3 on this page of 83 — 21 participants |
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A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 16:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 17:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 19:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 00:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 01:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-19 18:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-08-19 10:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 23:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 00:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 04:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-18 12:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 22:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-17 23:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 01:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 13:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 19:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 19:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-08-18 20:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network "der.hans" <deb-user@LuftHans.com> - 2016-08-17 17:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-17 22:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 23:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 14:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 16:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 23:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 00:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 01:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-18 01:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 03:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-18 16:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 16:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 14:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-08-19 15:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 19:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 17:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 19:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-19 21:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Mike McClain <mike.junk@copper.net> - 2016-08-20 08:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-20 13:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2016-08-20 22:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 17:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-08-18 17:30 +0200
RE: A minimalist network Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2016-08-19 12:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 18:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-08-18 19:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-08-18 21:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:30 +0200
Re: A minimalist network David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 21:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-08-18 22:40 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 15:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 16:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 16:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:00 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2016-08-19 17:50 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-19 20:10 +0200
Re: A minimalist network Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200
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| From | Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-19 17:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s7Uds-7rO-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #171308 |
Richard, On 8/19/16 10:08 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > NO <GRIN> > I physically have two other machines on my desk which I could serve > nicely to connect to the internet. Connecting either of the T43 or R61 > ha NEVER been considered ;) > Perhaps a stupid question, but you describe > "The Debian machine is having various configurations of Jessie > installed. Consider it a laboratory experiment. It can have multiple > installs in a day. It intentionally has *NO* internet connectivity. It > has a small partition set aside for preseed.cfg and miscellaneous > scripts." It seems to me that it's awfully cumbersome doing "multiple installs in a day" without a network connection. Sure, you can burn a minimal system to a live-CD or DVD, but as soon as you want anything more (say some of those tools for experimenting with networking), you need to pull stuff from a repository, or it gets VERY cumbersome. So... how are you doing all of those installs? -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-19 20:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s7WoW-wW-35@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #171314 |
On 8/19/2016 10:46 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Richard, > > On 8/19/16 10:08 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> >> NO <GRIN> >> I physically have two other machines on my desk which could >> serve nicely to connect to the internet. Connecting either of ->them to<- missing words >> the T43 or R61 has NEVER been considered ;) >> > > Perhaps a stupid question, but you describe > >> "The Debian machine is having various configurations of Jessie >> installed. Consider it a laboratory experiment. It can have >> multiple installs in a day. It intentionally has *NO* internet >> connectivity. It has a small partition set aside for >> preseed.cfg and miscellaneous scripts." > > It seems to me that it's awfully cumbersome doing "multiple > installs in a day" without a network connection. Sure, you can > burn a minimal system to a live-CD or DVD, but as soon as you > want anything more (say some of those tools for experimenting > with networking), you need to pull stuff from a repository, or it > gets VERY cumbersome. > > So... how are you doing all of those installs? From COMPLETE sets of purchased DVD's. I started out with only a dialup connection. I now have T-Mobile's smallest data plan. Some of my key decisions were made on aesthetic more than technical considerations.
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-08-18 23:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s7CTf-4ZR-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #171281 |
On Thu 18 Aug 2016 at 13:46:14 -0600, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:50:23 -0700 > David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > > >On 08/18/2016 06:58 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 8/17/2016 8:07 PM, David Christensen wrote: > >>> 3. Internet modem or gateway. > >> 3. N/A > > > >So, the laptops are not connected to the Internet? How do you access > >the Internet to post and read this list, download Debian ISO's, etc.? > > > >David > > > > Why do they have to be connected to the Internet? I have four computers > here. Three are not connected, one is. They do not have to be. That wasn't the point of the question. When the OP was asked about having an internet modem or gateway he responded "N/A". On behalf of the OP you could perhaps explain what that means when he obviously has a means of accessing the internet.
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